KnightswoodBear Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Who's saying this? Top. Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, bendan said: China getting things under control while the rest of the world is f***** due to religion, democracy and human rights. Basically the story of the 21st Century. China's lack of democracy and respect for human rights is one of the main reasons this was not controlled earlier. As has been covered way back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, JTS98 said: China's lack of democracy and respect for human rights is one of the main reasons this was not controlled earlier. As has been covered way back. Yes, China's lack of democracy/freedom of speech has made things much worse. I wasn't wishing we didn't have them. It just seems ironic that having exported it to the world, it now gets it under control and the rest of the world probably can't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/world-is-approaching-coronavirus-tipping-point-experts-say 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy1929 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, hk blues said: You didn't quote the article though. Just one bloke's name and credentials (f**k knows what he thinks) and another who says it's not too late. So not even 1 expert actually. Dr Bharat Pankhania, senior clinical lecturer at Exeter University, who warned against quarantining passengers on board the Diamond Princess, said: “It is clear that all the important ingredients for a pandemic are now present. “It’s better to be honest and say it.” that's what your man said on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Ross. said: Fortunately for Switzerland, high levels of borderline Italian slave labour are no longer a necessity, on account of said Italian labourers having already built the infrastructure which will now be used to cut them off. Don't think there's too much to worry about if you're relatively healthy and not ancient, unless the bug mutates. Quote A fifth person infected with the coronavirus has died in Italy, the chief of the Civil Protection agency said on Monday, according to Reuters. Italian media reported that the dead patient was 88 and came from the region of Lombardy. The four other people who have died of the illness were also elderly and at least three of them had been suffering serious underlying health problems 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Don't think there's too much to worry about if you're relatively healthy and not ancient, unless the bug mutates. Yeah, all I have read on it suggests that the folk who are dying would have struggled to survive a bout of the good, wholesome, old fashioned seasonal influenza, never mind this newfangled, modern tech version of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 China's lack of democracy and respect for human rights is one of the main reasons this was not controlled earlier. As has been covered way back.Complete and utter nonsense, which is why even clown-car states like Italy are now trying to throw precious ‘individual freedom’ overboard at the earliest stage possible to contain their own epidemic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, virginton said: Complete and utter nonsense, which is why even clown-car states like Italy are now trying to throw precious ‘individual freedom’ overboard at the earliest stage possible to contain their own epidemic. No, you've missed the point. It's got nothing to do with the individual liberty of people being quarantined, cities locked down etc. It's that the Chinese system of government stopped action being taken to contain this virus even once it had become apparent to local officials that there was a serious problem. It would literally have been a criminal offence for local officials to take the steps necessary and fear of censure and lack of protection under law encouraged people to simply not pass on or act on bad news. What is being dealt with now is ultimately the result of China making a complete arse of the first couple of weeks. And they made an arse of it because of how their country is organised politically. Edited February 24, 2020 by JTS98 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, JTS98 said: It's that the Chinese system of government stopped action being taken to contain this virus even once it had become apparent to local officials that there was a serious problem. It would literally have been a criminal offence for local officials to take the steps necessary and fear of censure and lack of protection under law encouraged people to simply not pass on or act on bad news. Hubei Province/Wuhan made an arse of things, more than anyone. I'd say it's more down to the culture of government there rather than a lack of power, but the inability of the media to discuss it was certainly a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 What action could feasibly be taken to stop the spread of a virus that is contagious from people showing no symptoms of ill health whatsoever? No healthcare system or government in the world is equipped to prevent that form of transmission: which is why seasonal cold and flu outbreaks are the norm in literally every temperate region of the globe.The only thing that a state can do is to prevent a regional epidemic turning into a genuinely national problem. And thanks to the no fucks given quarantine measures in place, most parts of China are not in fact seeing lots of new cases several weeks into the outbreak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I wonder how long it would have taken here to realise it wasn't ordinary flu when the numbers were low. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I wonder how long it would have taken here to realise it wasn't ordinary flu when the numbers were low. Yeah, I'd imagine it would have taken the NHS quite a while to realise there was a new virus going around. China tried to shut down people saying it was SARS, but it's probably done that multiple times since 2004 and been right up to now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/world-is-approaching-coronavirus-tipping-point-experts-say "...and Milan fashion week was also affected" 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Hessian Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MixuFixit said: Air pollution in China probably kills more people in a day that this outbreak. They can call it a pandemic once it's killed a billion people. ahhh but the BBC (prime instigators of the use of 'pandemic' over the last 24 hours) do like to scaremonger like witless c***s if at all possible; i fully expect to see footage cut from 'Gold Rush' on Discovery of massive bulldozers clearing open cast mining areas with a voice over intoning 'the government continues its preparations for the aftermath of the Corona Virus outbreak by preparing vast burial pits that can accommodate hundreds of thousands of bodies just outside Stevenage to which London's multitudinous dead will be transported in refuse trucks...' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 As well as the schools, all swimming pools, gyms and cinemas here have been closed and all sports training cancelled. No Fat Tuesday parties tomorrow will thankfully protect me from the flocks of children it normally brings.I'd be rereading Camus' The Plague right now if it wasn't so terribly dull. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 One of our engineers was working in Italy over the weekend, he phoned his doctor today complaining of cold and flu like symptoms and he's just been told to leave immediately and not come back for a week. The c**t has not stopped smiling, leading me to believe that he's not experiencing cold or flu like symptoms at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 "...and Milan fashion week was also affected" First class gif usage right there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 hours ago, staggy1929 said: 2 of them in the article I read that I listed there You can't count the one from Exeter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-51609712/coronavirus-drone-captures-massive-queue-for-masks-in-south-korea Those crazy Koreans. The correct course of action to all health problems is to man up and get on with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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