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59 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Absolute nick of companies who soon will be asking people to risk their and families health for the sake of profits.
Aye, and you wouldn't just pay everyone off if it made sense money wise?

My work have played the odds by splitting us up and sending us to different offices. Probably increased the chance of any one individual catching it but reduced the chances of everyone catching it. I appreciate that they are honest about my worth to them...

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3 hours ago, pandarilla said:

Do you think China handled the first few weeks well, though? Is the 'culture of fear' not a major problem when trying to identify something like this.

Erm no, because it was a flu-like illness that emerged in the middle of the seasonal flu season, one that is asymptomatic while being contagious in a lot of cases and not being not at all serious for about 95% of those affected. You really couldn't design an illness then that is less likely to be contained at source.

Let's say the exact same novel virus popped up in a similarly large city like London a couple of weeks before the busiest travel period of the year (Christmas): how long do you think it would take the NHS to grasp that there was a different flu-like illness going round than the bog-standard flu that they already struggle to deal with? How many people would be able to spread the virus without showing symptoms? How far would it spread across the UK and how many international flights would leave London before a problem was even spotted by the authorities?

It is a completely false use of hindsight to claim that some junior doctors being allowed to bump their gums on Twitter would change anything in the above timeline. The health services that we have even in the most advanced first world countries exist to treat existing conditions, not to prevent the emergence of new ones at source.

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2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:
55 minutes ago, Gaz said:
To play Devil's Advocate, not every company has the financial reserves to pay employees for not coming to work.

Maybe people shouldn't live a selfish hand to mouth existence then?

You're an absolute fucking idiot.

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Mrs GTSO was out for a meal last week with friends. They got speaking to the restaurant owner who told them that a couple of people who had travelled back from the far east and were self isolating had been in to eat the day before. Apparently, after 2 days “isolation” they were so bored, they decided to eat out.

People are stupid and selfish. No way will we manage this successfully.

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Of course there's loads of really unfortunate people who rely on food banks but theres also people who buy loads of stuff they dont need, drink and smoke and have all sorts of fancy stuff who live on tick.
That's the people I meant. No offence to people who struggle despite saving and just getting enough to eat. I dont literally mean eating hand to mouth, it's an expression.

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If the UK’s chief medical officer is of the opinion that banning large gatherings “doesn't actually do much” then what is the advice being fed to France, Italy, Germany etc? 

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1 minute ago, TheGoon said:

If the UK’s chief medical officer is of the opinion that banning large gatherings “doesn't actually do much” then what is the advice being fed to France, Italy, Germany etc? 

EU advice, mate. They didn't take back control.

4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Of course there's loads of really unfortunate people who rely on food banks but theres also people who buy loads of stuff they dont need, drink and smoke and have all sorts of fancy stuff who live on tick.
That's the people I meant. No offence to people who struggle despite saving and just getting enough to eat. I dont literally mean eating hand to mouth, it's an expression.

Another thing: If we don't see Our Brave Boys knocking on pensioners' doors with much needed bread & milk, they can do one if they think I'm buying a poppy this year. Bleedin' liberty.

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2 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Nothing like a wee gamble. Might be worth checking the new cancellation and postponement deals the airlines are offering before you book:

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/lufthansa-qatar-airways-coronavirus-flight-delay-change-refund-compensation-a9382956.html

We already have our flight booked to Los Angeles to pick up the cruise, and our flight home from Vancouver following it. Also a couple of nights in LA and Vancouver hotels. We haven’t changed them, just cancelled the cruise. So, we looked for something land-based to fill in the gap between LA and Vancouver to simply replace the cruise. Got Southwest flights to Vegas from LAX for $45 each, and Westjet flights from Vegas to Vancouver. A doddle to book a Vegas hotel, so fingers crossed nothing else of a major disaster nature happens between now and May - leprosy, a plague of locusts, St Mirren renewing Tony Andreu’s contract.

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14 minutes ago, TheGoon said:

If the UK’s chief medical officer is of the opinion that banning large gatherings “doesn't actually do much” then what is the advice being fed to France, Italy, Germany etc? 

The UK point of view on this seems to be that if they play behind closed doors, people will just go to the pub instead, making it more likely the virus will be transmitted?

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2 minutes ago, pozbaird said:

We already had our flight booked to Los Angeles to pick up the cruise, and our flight home from Vancouver following it. We haven’t changed them, just cancelled the cruise. So, we looked for something land-based to fill in the gap between LA and Vancouver. Got Southwest flights to Vegas from LAX for $45 each, and Westjet flights from Vegas to Vancouver. A doddle to book a Vegas hotel, so fingers crossed nothing else of a major disaster type nature happens between now and May - leprosy, a plague of locusts, St Mirren renewing Tony Andreu’s contract.

Sounds good, you'll probably be fine. My worry would be that the US healthcare system seems the least able in the developed world to cope with a pandemic, people worried about the cost of treatment, not having the right papers, little central structure or coordination, different rules and policies state to state, and an arsehole in charge who only cares about his poll ratings. But if it does go tits up you should be able to cancel or postpone your flights at least the way things are going.

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40 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:
1 hour ago, Gaz said:
To play Devil's Advocate, not every company has the financial reserves to pay employees for not coming to work.

Maybe people shouldn't live a selfish hand to mouth existence then?

I buy what I need week to week. My child tax credits cover my weekly food bill and fuel. Not sure why this makes me selfish! 

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