Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[doulikefish]

15 hours ago, Caledonian1 said:

Has anyone told Michael Gove this?

Gove using his common sense 

[welshbairn]

19 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Only if you are simpleton. 

Masks and social distancing will definitely reduce spending. That will lead to higher prices, hiring freezes and reduced hours right across retail and hospitality.

The knock on effect from that is higher unemployment and the herd mentality of households reducing spending which will effect the whole economy. That's exactly what happened post 2010 and it will probably be worse this time as companies are sitting on more debt and tighter margins.

 

 

Nothing to worry about, as you keep reminding us we can just print as much money as we need.

[Detournement]

14 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Nothing to worry about, as you keep reminding us we can just print as much money as we need.

Unfortunately it's the Tory government who can do that and they are printing it to maintain the asset values of the elite rather than the living standards of the majority.

Sadly the alternatives are Sir Keir who would do exactly the same or Nicola who wants a government that doesn't issue currency. 

We are fucked. 

[PWL]

Just had my first lunchtime wander round Glasgow  city centre since lock down. 

1. It's busy but not stupidly so and masks being worn in shops. 

2. Lots of shops and bars don't look like they are going to reopen. 

3. I'd forgotten how much I miss seeing women in shiny wet-look leggings.

[coprolite]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Because the supermarkets set prices right across their range to hit a target level of profit. If sales of high margin items like clothes and households goods decrease then they will increase food prices. It's what happened in the last recession and it's already happening now.

It seems fairly obvious to me that people won't spend as long wandering around shops if they have to wear a mask and can't try on clothes. It's also obvious that social distancing will decrease spending on hospitality. 

You made that up about supermarkets. The mechanism you've proposed is not supported by the observations in the article you posted. If it was true then the price inelastic items (staples) would bear the brunt of the increase, not the more discretionary meat products that have increased. I suspect that any increase in food prices has more to do with a temporary reduction in competition as people shop around less. 

Food prices are only one part of the basket anyway. If spending (demand) falls on aggregate, prices should also fall. 

You've identified two possible sectors that might be adversely affected by masks and social distancing. As Covid is a given, the question is would those sectors be better laissez faire or with the two protections.

f**k knows about shopping for clothes tbh, it's for fashion people and aunties. Would people be more likely to go to a crowded pub with folk coughing or a spaced out one with mask wearing waiters? Where is your evidence? Or is it all what "seems obvious"? 

[Detournement]

Pubs with waiters. Meat being discretionary. Clothes shopping for aunties. I take it you didn't get out much even before lockdown?

[Jacksgranda]

2 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:

On the subject of a “second wave”, I’ll be pragmatic and say if it happens it happens. We can’t lockdown again and no doubt just as fans are getting back to football games there will be folk clambering for the season to be halted, or games behind closed doors. Personally I feel that we’re going to have to live with it so wear a mask when in crowds/shops. If you’re at risk then stay away from busy places if that will give you peace of mind. We shouldn’t shut down yet again for something that doesn’t affect the vast majority. If no vaccine is found for years (if at all) have we to live with shutdowns and no events (sports/concerts) ? I know it’s not the same but the flu kills thousands in the UK each year and nobody would tolerate no sports or people losing their jobs if we shut down for that. 

You mean folk will be going up the walls?

[Todd_is_God]

The economy will suffer tbf, for as long as restrictions remain in place.

There is no appeal for me in heading out clothes shopping if I can't try stuff on. Much easier to browse online, where I can see the range and sizes available in minutes, and get it delivered for less than it would cost to go for it myself, certainly if I had to return it.

On the going out part, my wife and I would go out most, if not every, weekends prior to Covid. With lockdown coming we have made a few purchases which increase the appeal of staying home / reduce the need to get in to town to get away from it all. With the need to plan in advance / book tables in multiple places to have a decent day out, I imagine having people round will become the norm, with going out the less usual occurrence. It's an added hassle which will become tiresome very quickly. With home visits having been the only socialising option for most of the past 6 weeks I don't imagine we are alone in that thinking.

I'm not saying we don't need some restrictions in the immediate - short term, but we perhaps should not scoff at those who are of the opinion that the restrictions as they are currently will have a negative impact on the ability for things to recover.

Edited July 14, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[Todd_is_God]

5 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

Every weekend? You big lush.

The benefit of having no kids I guess!

[Le Tout P'ti FC]

I spend about as much dough on soft play and the like as I ever did on booze

I was speaking about this with a pal. He told me about his massive out of control blueberry habit since he's had kids. He's got two kids and reckons he's burning through £2k pa on their fruit snacking!

[Musketeer Gripweed]

My tattooist just sent me the protocols to get into the studio from next week. f**k me, I thought it was bad enough to try and get a pint.

Booked in for August.

[Bairnardo]

My tattooist just sent me the protocols to get into the studio from next week. f**k me, I thought it was bad enough to try and get a pint.
Booked in for August.

Where about? And what are the measures?

[Musketeer Gripweed]

12 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

13 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said:

My tattooist just sent me the protocols to get into the studio from next week. f**k me, I thought it was bad enough to try and get a pint.
Booked in for August.

Where about? And what are the measures?

Kaizen in Cumbernauld. The guys that used to run From The Ashes. I am a client of Mo, but they are all good guys.

Face masks at all times. No friends or family with you (one for the girls that). No food or drink. Wait in your car until messaged to come in as the door is locked. No head or neck tattoo. General other hand sanitiser protocols. 4 hours maximum.

Sounds like a fun day out to me.

[Bairnardo]

Kaizen in Cumbernauld. The guys that used to run From The Ashes. I am a client of Mo, but they are all good guys.
Face masks at all times. No friends or family with you (one for the girls that). No food or drink. Wait in your car until messaged to come in as the door is locked. No head or neck tattoo. General other hand sanitiser protocols. 4 hours maximum.
Sounds like a fun day out to me.

That's no bad. Are they good? I am looking for someone having grown a wee touch dissatisfied with one I have so wont go to same guy again, but I still need to get another that goes along a similar theme.

[RH33]

36 minutes ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:

1 hour ago, MixuFruit said:

I spend about as much dough on soft play and the like as I ever did on booze

I was speaking about this with a pal. He told me about his massive out of control blueberry habit since he's had kids. He's got two kids and reckons he's burning through £2k pa on their fruit snacking!

I’m about £10 a week on Strawberries for my son

[coprolite]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Pubs with waiters. Meat being discretionary. Clothes shopping for aunties. I take it you didn't get out much even before lockdown?

If going out is shopping for clothes then i'll happily be a hermit. Clothes shops are the second circle of hell. 

[Musketeer Gripweed]

Just now, Bairnardo said:

1 minute ago, Musketeer Gripweed said:

Kaizen in Cumbernauld. The guys that used to run From The Ashes. I am a client of Mo, but they are all good guys.
Face masks at all times. No friends or family with you (one for the girls that). No food or drink. Wait in your car until messaged to come in as the door is locked. No head or neck tattoo. General other hand sanitiser protocols. 4 hours maximum.
Sounds like a fun day out to me.

That's no bad. Are they good? I am looking for someone having grown a wee touch dissatisfied with one I have so wont go to same guy again, but I still need to get another that goes along a similar theme.

Mo has done both my legs and my chest now, and I am a fussy b*****d, so yeah, I would say he was good. Keithgy goes to him as well I think.

I was going to say just pop in and see them, but you can't at the moment, obviously.

[Bairnardo]

4 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said:

Mo has done both my legs and my chest now, and I am a fussy b*****d, so yeah, I would say he was good. Keithgy goes to him as well I think.

I was going to say just pop in and see them, but you can't at the moment, obviously.

My plan was to go to Santa Cruz Customs(?)  in the Raploch before all this shit kicked off. I might fire an email to Kaizen and see if they can knock up what I want. 

[Cyclizine]

4 hours ago, Donathan said:

Slightly worrying that the number of suspected cases in ICU has doubled from 6 to 12 overnight though

 

 

Anyone admitted to ICU unable to give a history that makes Covid unlikely is treated as positive until the test results come back. So if you're admitted unconscious because of a head injury or overdose etc or you've got a severe pneumonia, then you'll be "suspected" until you have a negative test.

Edited July 14, 2020 by Cyclizine

[doulikefish]

Holy shit

https://www.newsweek.com/texas-newspaper-prints-43-page-obituary-section-coronavirus-deaths-soar-1517297