Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[vikingTON]

19 minutes ago, Frankie S said:

The live music promotions company has had no support other than furlough, despite being closed for business for 9 months and counting, with summer 2021 looking like the earliest we’ll be allowed to trade again. Live music promoters haven’t even been eligible for Strategic Framework grants for businesses that have been forced to close or otherwise restricted by government restrictions, although I believe this loophole (one of many egregious funding gaps) will be closed in January.

It is this that has made Scottish football's shrieking the lack of government support absolutely risible incidentally. An industry that chose to restart, is charging through the nose for an inferior product and yet has still banged its rattle about the injustice of it all from day one. 

[Todd_is_God]

OK maybe not a myth, but people touching things is not a big driver of transmission. In fact the risk is tiny.

[dirty dingus]

22 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Got petrol earlier and noticed nobody else was giving a f**k about wiping hands or using towels/gloves. Manky gits. It only takes seconds.

Wipe your willie all over the pumps then sit back and have a chuckle.

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22 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

I await someone calling you a Tory off the back of this post.

I got called one earlier in the thread several weeks ago because I bemoaned the fact that my Mrs, who is a sole trading hairdresser working out of a wee summerhouse we got built in our garden, couldn't trade anymore despite adhering very carefully to guidelines and any sort of help was vague or non-existent because she was a new business who had never submitted a set of books yet. 

I got called a Tory because I was concerned that 50% of our household income was removed from us through no fault of our own.  

Hope she has some kind of insurance she can call upon.

It's a shame that businesses like your wife can continue to operate as clearly the risk is low but I dont think short of EHO's visiting every single premises that there is an easy answer. 

[D.A.F.C]

6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

OK maybe not a myth, but people touching things is not a big driver of transmission. In fact the risk is tiny.

Well I guess if everyone had better hygiene and were careful the transmission would be lower. Worth doing, it hardly costs anything.

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7 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

OK maybe not a myth, but people touching things is not a big driver of transmission. In fact the risk is tiny.

Probably low but people washing their hands should probably be encouraged when ever people arrive/ leave from a place 

[dirty dingus]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Driver said:

Probably best not to do this.  

your probably right, diesel burn on the helmet would be pretty uncomfortable.

Edited December 27, 2020 by dirty dingus

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said:

Well I guess if everyone had better hygiene and were careful the transmission would be lower. Worth doing, it hardly costs anything.

There is a massive difference between "better hygiene" i.e. washing hands after using the toilet / sneezing etc, and Philpying people for using a petrol pump without wearing gloves.

There is little to no evidence of Fomite transmission, it's not March.

[Juanhourjoe]

Sympathize with all the guys who couldn't have there business going through this, and everyone working for them. A lot has been badly handled for you guys. 

I disagree with the criticism of Devi though. I think she's had a much better outlook on this than Jason leitch. And the government as a whole.

This is going to go on a while yet. So there could be time to do things better if the will was there.

[Marshmallo]

36 minutes ago, Frankie S said:

I realise this wasn’t aimed at me, but I’ll tell you a few things that are different for me.

Cut your post down to save on scrolling, but people such as yourself and the 80 you employ are why I get so annoyed at the "You just want to go for a pint!" goons who think anyone concerned about the hospitality sector just wants to get pished with their pals at the cost of killing a load of pensioners. There will be countless people in your supply chain and in other associated businesses impacted by this too.

It is an almost impossible balancing act and someone has to lose out, but the lack of empathy seen at times on here for people in different circumstances is terrible.

[Arthur Orton]

4 minutes ago, Juanhourjoe said:

Sympathize with all the guys who couldn't have there business going through this, and everyone working for them. A lot has been badly handled for you guys. 

I disagree with the criticism of Devi though. I think she's had a much better outlook on this than Jason leitch. And the government as a whole.

This is going to go on a while yet. So there could be time to do things better if the will was there.

Yeh mate if you believe in unicorns, and pots of gold at the end of a rainbow she's had a stormer.

Not so much if you have mental health issues and were told basically tough shit  get on with it.

Lose your business, don't worry a wee walk in the rain will solve everything as long as you make your own sunshine.

And as for her obsession with eradication of covid in the summer, yeh that worked well.

 

[Rugster]

1 hour ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I wonder how many of the folk on here with the mindset of "one covid death is one too many", were happily going about their business every other year not worried about spreading colds/flu to the elderly and vulnerable which could potentially kill them. What makes this so different? 

Give it up, you utter fucking moon man. 

[super_carson]

I think Sridhar, arguably, deserves more criticism than Leitch to be honest.  I think Leitch being on the radio, to begin with, was a good thing as there was a lot of uncertainty back in the spring about exactly what this was.  He, like Sturgeon, is actually quite a good speaker.  My issue has been that lately he's been making a lot of media appearances where he seems to make claims about what will be happening about the longevity and severity of restrictions and I think that undermines Sturgeon and the governments ability to make decisions utilising all of the information from all sectors of the country (economic & social impact, policing etc.)  If Leitch was just coming on to take questions from the public and help provide answers after decisions were made, or to help explain some new research then I'd be all for him doing so, but I feel that that he's overstepping the mark a bit now.  

At least Leitch in his capacity of a Clinical Director has some clout in government.  Sridhar  is just an advisor, and has no role in government at all beyond giving advice to the SG and should only be one of many voices.  My issue with her is that she seems quite happy to have seen her stock rise throughout this pandemic and is not exactly shying away from getting her face on TV what seems like everyday.  Again, forgive my cynicism, but I can't help but feel that she has benefitted (professionally, at least) from the pandemic and as someone who works as a Professor at Edinburgh Uni is probably not in the same financial or social situation as large swathes of Scottish society.  She can tweet nonsense about making your own sunshine or whatever bollocks, but I find that to be highly patronising and dismissive of the very real consequences that the majority of us are suffering as a result of these lockdowns she seems to be in favour of.  

Edited December 27, 2020 by super_carson

[Mark Connolly]

@super_carson having to put in some effort here to balance out the musings of his fellow Ayr fans.

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19 minutes ago, super_carson said:

I think Sridhar, arguably, deserves more criticism than Leitch to be honest.  I think Leitch being on the radio, to begin with, was a good thing as there was a lot of uncertainty back in the spring about exactly what this was.  He, like Sturgeon, is actually quite a good speaker.  My issue has been that lately he's been making a lot of media appearances where he seems to make claims about what will be happening about the longevity and severity of restrictions and I think that undermines Sturgeon and the governments ability to make decisions utilising all of the information from all sectors of the country (economic & social impact, policing etc.)  If Leitch was just coming on to take questions from the public and help provide answers after decisions were made, or to help explain some new research then I'd be all for him doing so, but I feel that that he's overstepping the mark a bit now.  

At least Leitch in his capacity of a Clinical Director has some clout in government.  Sridhar  is just an advisor, and has no role in government at all beyond giving advice to the SG and should only be one of many voices.  My issue with her is that she seems quite happy to have seen her stock rise throughout this pandemic and is not exactly shying away from getting her face on TV what seems like everyday.  Again, forgive my cynicism, but I can't help but feel that she has benefitted (professionally, at least) from the pandemic and as someone who works as a Professor at Edinburgh Uni is probably not in the same financial or social situation as large swathes of Scottish society.  She can tweet nonsense about making your own sunshine or whatever bollocks, but I find that to be highly patronising and dismissive of the very real consequences that the majority of us are suffering as a result of these lockdowns she seems to be in favour of.  

You're pretty much spot on only thing I would say however is if you look at the members of the SAG it looks like she is just about the only one with a very active Twitter account so she might be the most outspoken in public but it's not like she's the chair of the group her wall to wall coverage is probably due to news channels picking folk off Twitter to answer questions.

[Marshmallo]

If you want to see the biggest simps on planet Earth you should have a look at the replies to every Sridhar tweet. 8,000 middle aged Hernan Creepos telling her how amazing she is.

Edited December 27, 2020 by Marshmallo

[super_carson]

8 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

@super_carson having to put in some effort here to balance out the musings of his fellow Ayr fans.

No mean feat...

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

If you want to see the biggest simps on planet Earth you should have a look at the replies to every Sridhar tweet. 8,000 middle aged Hernan Creepos telling her how amazing she is.

 

[Honest_Man#1]

4 hours ago, WATTOO said:

When I could play golf with my friends, go abroad on holiday, go for a few beers with my friends, work from the office if I wanted, go shopping  when I wanted, Visit anyone I liked when I liked.

So basically other than concerts (which I don't attend) and clubbing (which I no longer do either), virtually everything was close to normality for me with the small exception of having to wear a mask at certain times when shopping or entering / leaving a licenced premise.

So pray tell, what was so different for you ??

Just wanted to highlight this utter tripe supper of a post again. In a huge list of candidates, this might win the worst post of 2020 award. One of the biggest ‘I’m alright Jack’, selfish and just plain stupid things I’ve seen for a while. Being so completely devoid of empathy for others is either painstakingly stupid or psychopathic, with you I am giving the benefit of the doubt that it’s the former.

Been covered already by FrankieS and Marshmallo, but here’s a small selection of things that weren’t at all normal for different people during summer. I’ll even star the ones that thankfully weren’t applicable to myself, which is something that people like you clearly don’t think for a second about:

- not being allowed to attend a family funeral*
- being unemployed/unable to work/put out of business due to restrictions placed on your place of work*
- having your wedding cancelled/reduced to a number that meant you couldn’t have family and friends there*
- not allowed to go to football/concerts/any event with more than a handful of people
- being limited in number for how many family members/friends you could actually visit or have visit you at one time

I’ll stop there, but there are countless other things you could put.

[RawB93]

17 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

If you want to see the biggest simps on planet Earth you should have a look at the replies to every Sridhar tweet. 8,000 middle aged Hernan Creepos telling her how amazing she is.

Greenie for and notice that I will be stealing Hernán Creepo.