ayrmad Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, hk blues said: Yep. I wasn't particularly having a go at the woman because she was in the medical profession, just because she was an arsehole. IMO. It's beneath contempt but that shouldn't detract from all the people who were helping their communities paid or otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Literally can only speak for myself here and won't presume to do so for others. At no point during this have I ever been scared of Covid. Unless you are a patient facing NHS worker, or one of very few other professions you were never "putting your life at risk" to any degree worth screeching about IMO. The idea that anyone would be stupid enough to believe their life was at risk due to Covid from going to work and still did it (again, caregivers aside) is kind of insulting Wild that we're over a year into this and people continue to reveal themselves to have zero empathy on a daily basis. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, Elixir said: Sky's take on Chris Whitty's comments yesterday: An absolutely risible outlet. I doubt we will even be talking about Covid-19 in two years. We are months away from being in a position to have offered every adult in the UK a vaccine which is ridiculously effective. Anyone talking about covid vaccines in 2023 will only be doing so because they have money to be made from them. With a substantial number of shares in GSK, Whitty falls squarely into that category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Honest_Man#1 said: I think you’re way off here, especially the bit in bold. I actually think you’re being a bit insulting and there’s a lot of revisionism going on here based on what we know now. At the point of the first lockdown we knew very little on who it was impacting on and it was believed, by a large majority I would suggest, that there was a serious risk to potentially anyone. Plenty of workers had to continue to go to work and legitimately (due to the thinking and press coverage at the time) put their lives at risk. The bit in bold is actually verging on outrageous to me, essentially accusing anyone who was scared of Covid but not willing to chuck their job and livelihood down the drain as “stupid”. I thought there was a point where bus drivers? were dying at a greater rate than hospital staff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I doubt we will even be talking about Covid-19 in two years. Pretty sure the main players will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: It was "all legal limits on social contact removed" & "Restrictions on large events lifted" These vaccine passports are a way to make this happen as planned, whilst keeping the over-cautious experts off his back. I struggle to see what you can't grasp about that. I cant understand why its necessary in a country which will by that time quite likely have everyone with at least one vaccine or the 90% of us who take it, yes under 18’s dont get it but is it genuinely justifiable to spend that money on a domestic product when such high proportions have had the vaccine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I cant understand why its necessary in a country which will by that time quite likely have everyone with at least one vaccine or the 90% of us who take it, yes under 18’s dont get it but is it genuinely justifiable to spend that money on a domestic product when such high proportions have had the vaccine? It’s absolutely wild to think you’ll need to show a document to get into places for a virus that has a 99% survival rate. This stopped being about a virus a long time ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I cant understand why its necessary in a country which will by that time quite likely have everyone with at least one vaccine or the 90% of us who take it, yes under 18’s dont get it but is it genuinely justifiable to spend that money on a domestic product when such high proportions have had the vaccine? I don't agree that it is necessary, nor do I think it's justifiable. But it's going to happen, and not because we need it. Other countries may have a valid case for them due to being behind in their vaccine rollout, but that doesn't mean we need to copy them. Labour, of course, could grow a set and vote against it, but they will abstain like they have for every other vote, meaning the Lib Dems and 'rebel' Tory MPs won't be enough to stop it. Edited April 2, 2021 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: No. But I can see what the UK Gov would have to gain from bringing them in short-term. There is no chance it'll be short term. Tech giants, billionaires like Gates and snakes like Blair and Schwabb having been pushing for this for years prior to the pandemic. Edited April 2, 2021 by Detournement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: There is no chance it'll be short term. Tech giants, billionaires like Gates and snakes like Blair and Schwabb having been pushing for this for years prior to the pandemic. Of course it won’t be short term. It will be like “just 3 weeks to flatten the curve” and 13months on we’ll still have to use them. Then of course you’ll have to get the booster jags or your app wont be valid anymore. Creating a never ending cycle of injections for a virus that isn’t harmful to 99% of those outwith the elderly/vulnerable/obese categories. Mind blowing but as has been shown over the last year, we really are a nation of wet wipes who’ll shrug their shoulders and accept anything they’re told by someone in authority 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Boris: ‘Two fully vaccinated people cannot meet indoors because vaccines are not giving 100% protection.’ Also Boris: ‘You need a vaccine passport to get into the pub.’ I hope this is his poll tax moment, but there’s so many spineless politicians and general public so it will be passed with flying colours 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Just now, Thereisalight.. said: Of course it won’t be short term. It will be like “just 3 weeks to flatten the curve” and 13months on we’ll still have to use them. Then of course you’ll have to get the booster jags or your app wont be valid anymore. Creating a never ending cycle of injections for a virus that isn’t harmful to 99% of those outwith the elderly/vulnerable/obese categories. Mind blowing but as has been shown over the last year, we really are a nation of wet wipes who’ll shrug their shoulders and accept anything they’re told by someone in authority It also creates the potential for a Social Credit system similar to the one planned in China. And paves the way towards the Cashless Society with all transactions digitally recorded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Of course it won’t be short term. It will be like “just 3 weeks to flatten the curve” and 13months on we’ll still have to use them. Then of course you’ll have to get the booster jags or your app wont be valid anymore. Creating a never ending cycle of injections for a virus that isn’t harmful to 99% of those outwith the elderly/vulnerable/obese categories. Mind blowing but as has been shown over the last year, we really are a nation of wet wipes who’ll shrug their shoulders and accept anything they’re told by someone in authority What have you done to register your opposition? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewing Taffies Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I doubt we will even be talking about Covid-19 in two years. What are you going to do with all that spare time? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I doubt we will even be talking about Covid-19 in two years. We are months away from being in a position to have offered every adult in the UK a vaccine which is ridiculously effective. Anyone talking about covid vaccines in 2023 will only be doing so because they have money to be made from them. With a substantial number of shares in GSK, Whitty falls squarely into that category. I might not be talking about it but I will always keep it in my head for reference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: What have you done to register your opposition? I signed the petition a few weeks back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I read in today's paper that Devi was recently made a Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh or FRSE. Some of you might think she should just have been made an Associate to have the appropriate letters after her name... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I don't agree that it is necessary, nor do I think it's justifiable. But it's going to happen, and not because we need it. Other countries may have a valid case for them due to being behind in their vaccine rollout, but that doesn't mean we need to copy them. Labour, of course, could grow a set and vote against it, but they will abstain like they have for every other vote, meaning the Lib Dems and 'rebel' Tory MPs won't be enough to stop it. Starmer's said domestic vaccine passports are "not British" whatever that means but presumably it means Labour don't support it. It's a horrific policy. I know some fellow lefties who are for them and it's utterly baffling that they want to give someone like Priti Patel that level of power. Incredibly short-sighted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Bairnardo said: Literally can only speak for myself here and won't presume to do so for others. At no point during this have I ever been scared of Covid. Put it this way, I think you are safe from Long Covid anyway, arf arf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: I signed the petition a few weeks back That’ll show them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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