Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Scosha]

“Police have a hard enough job already”

 

[s_dog]

52 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Why should we not expect the vaccine to absolute cigar covid into, at worst, the same category as seasonal flu come Autumn / Winter?

Every study to date has shown them to perform incredibly well. Dare I say even better than could have been hoped for.

Please excuse me whilst I file this "we just don't know!" nonsense in the bin where it belongs.

Maybe because of the Kent variant that caused the numbers to spiral out of control just a few months ago? All the numbers are looking better, but that's in part due to lockdown as well as vaccinations, plus the decreases in cases are starting to stall a little in some places.

You're right that the vaccines are doing probably even better than could have been hoped for, the fact they may have a significant impact on transmission could be the key. But mamy experts are still cautious, and I'd rather listen to them than those just wanting to throw caution to the wind. We need to make sure we do it right this time. I don't want to have to suffer any more lockdowns after this one, I want them to do whatever is possible to make this the last one. 

[101]

1 minute ago, Scosha said:

“Police have a hard enough job already”

 

You do have to question that many officers being used to move them *towards* the city centre. There are more than enough there to close that road, even if they had stopped folk getting into George Square and Ibrox without one central venue you have to imagine there would be a fair amount of dispersal.

[NotThePars]

Sturgeon needs a paddle for that massive dinghy Rangers just gave her

[D.A.F.C]

While the rangers celebrations are bad hopefully because its outside there won't be too many problems.

Remember the protests last year, no huge issues from it.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

2 hours ago, Detournement said:

No one got hurt, no one got arrested. That's good policing. 

Anyone with half a brain can work out that the Covid risk is less than the average big supermarket on a weekend day. 

 

There’s more chance of spreading covid by opening the pubs then a few hundred people walking along the street.

[No_Problemo]

4 minutes ago, s_dog said:

Maybe because of the Kent variant that caused the numbers to spiral out of control just a few months ago? All the numbers are looking better, but that's in part due to lockdown as well as vaccinations, plus the decreases in cases are starting to stall a little in some places.

You're right that the vaccines are doing probably even better than could have been hoped for, the fact they may have a significant impact on transmission could be the key. But mamy experts are still cautious, and I'd rather listen to them than those just wanting to throw caution to the wind. We need to make sure we do it right this time. I don't want to have to suffer any more lockdowns after this one, I want them to do whatever is possible to make this the last one. 

The cases are flying down.

Edited March 7, 2021 by No_Problemo

[Todd_is_God]

4 minutes ago, s_dog said:

Maybe because of the Kent variant that caused the numbers to spiral out of control just a few months ago? All the numbers are looking better, but that's in part due to lockdown as well as vaccinations, plus the decreases in cases are starting to stall a little in some places.

You're right that the vaccines are doing probably even better than could have been hoped for, the fact they may have a significant impact on transmission could be the key. But mamy experts are still cautious, and I'd rather listen to them than those just wanting to throw caution to the wind. We need to make sure we do it right this time. I don't want to have to suffer any more lockdowns after this one, I want them to do whatever is possible to make this the last one. 

All of this would be a good point if we didn't have a number of very effective vaccines. But we do.

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2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

While the rangers celebrations are bad hopefully because its outside there won't be too many problems.

Remember the protests last year, no huge issues from it.

I'm for lockdown Ibrox edition for the next 50 years just to be sure.

[SANTAN]

Why did she @ the club. It's probably some random ass employee not like a hotline to Douglas Park

[Billy Jean King]

It’s fucking wild. One of my mates is a Policeman and he’s away celebrating in amongst all that today. There’s no way that the SG can stand up on Monday and tell us all to stay at home or else, but let shite like that happen under their watch. 

The way you are talking you seem to think Sturgeon was sitting in a bunker watching it all unfold on CCTV while instructing her "troops on the ground" how to control that situation.
The police dealt with that situation today no differently to the way they have dealt with supporters of those two cheeks for decades, they can basically do what they want, it's mob rule plain and simple. Always has been, always will be. Clearly their mob trumps the law but that is no different today in lockdown to anytime in the past 40 years or so but to advocate that this means the rest of us can do what we want is basically setting out moral compass in line with the knuckle daggers. Two wrongs must definitely don't make a right.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

3 minutes ago, Left Back said:

No need to be defensive.  Things like knowing how many police cells are available in Glasgow would be something the vast majority of people wouldn’t know.

I wasn’t having a go at you.

I used to be a PC yes. I work in the criminal justice system and obviously do weigh on the side of the Police mostly, I can absolutely absolutely hold my hands up and say when I think things are done wrongly, im probably a bigger critic of how things are done than anyone else on here. I can genuinely not think of a harder job right now than being the tactical commander of whats happening in George square, if you dive in and arrest 2/3 people you risk sparking a riot, it absolutely does happen, its all about how crowd dynamics work. If they try and head them off at one train station they will meet at another. 
Id like to see an enquiry after today. I also agree that it undermines enforcement of the rules afterwards, but im genuinely not able to see what else could have been done (i know loads of people will be like ‘arrest them all’ ‘baton charge’ or whatever but there is absolutely no existing grounds to baton people or otherwise in line with ECHR). 
The cells thing you can find out via a FOI request. 

[superbigal]

In 2021 the cry is still no surrender.
I thought they were just brain deid.
That's an insult to Zombies and goldfish.
Do these people actually have lives, wives, kids, jobs etc ?

[Detournement]

1 minute ago, superbigal said:

In 2021 the cry is still no surrender.
I thought they were just brain deid.
That's an insult to Zombies and goldfish.
Do these people actually have lives, wives, kids, jobs etc ?

We've got a national anthem about sending home a guy who died 700 years ago.

[Sergeant Wilson]

2 minutes ago, superbigal said:

In 2021 the cry is still no surrender.
I thought they were just brain deid.
That's an insult to Zombies and goldfish.
Do these people actually have lives, wives, kids, jobs etc ?

They went with them.

[Lofarl]

Call the season now.  No honours but keep positions.  Also deduct some points off of Hearts, just for a laugh.

[Scosha]

3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

The way you are talking you seem to think Sturgeon was sitting in a bunker watching it all unfold on CCTV while instructing her "troops on the ground" how to control that situation.
The police dealt with that situation today no differently to the way they have dealt with supporters of those two cheeks for decades, they can basically do what they want, it's mob rule plain and simple. Always has been, always will be. Clearly their mob trumps the law but that is no different today in lockdown to anytime in the past 40 years or so but to advocate that this means the rest of us can do what we want is basically setting out moral compass in line with the knuckle daggers. Two wrongs must definitely don't make a right.

They could’ve prepared for this in many ways to reduce the numbers. They’re leading a March through the town for them ffs  

SG cannot expect people to keep in line, whilst Police Scotland take rangers fans by the hand for a jaunt round GCC. 

[Left Back]

1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:

The way you are talking you seem to think Sturgeon was sitting in a bunker watching it all unfold on CCTV while instructing her "troops on the ground" how to control that situation.
The police dealt with that situation today no differently to the way they have dealt with supporters of those two cheeks for decades, they can basically do what they want, it's mob rule plain and simple. Always has been, always will be. Clearly their mob trumps the law but that is no different today in lockdown to anytime in the past 40 years or so but to advocate that this means the rest of us can do what we want is basically setting out moral compass in line with the knuckle daggers. Two wrongs must definitely don't make a right.

You could surely understand the anger of anyone that either has been or will be fined for a covid violation though?  Just for once think of something other than jumping to Sturgeon’s defence.

if these gatherings are truly as dangerous as the government would have us believe the police should be taking action.  If they aren’t taking the correct action the government should be ordering them to.  If they aren’t as dangerous as the narrative we shouldn’t be under a stay at home order.  You can’t have it both ways.

[D.A.F.C]

9 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

There’s more chance of spreading covid by opening the pubs then a few hundred people walking along the street.

Yep, or the schools. But let's have a go at football fans as if they're the antichrist again.

 

[invergowrie arab]

I wouldn't like to be a bunch of teenagers following Motherwell or St Johnstone now Police Scotland will need  to show how tough they are on football disorder.

Edited March 7, 2021 by invergowrie arab