Dawson Park Boy Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, oaksoft said: See, this is the problem. People are just picking their heroes based on whether they are saying what they want to hear. They are all attention seeking charlatans, some of whom got a bit lucky with their predictions - like all the best charlatans. Nobody. Absolutely nobody called covid correctly. There are no "experts" in covid and there never have been. Campbell isn't a hero and GB News certainly aren't. I disagree. Probably you haven’t followed Campbell and I only did so after a poster recommended him as a neutral commentator on the plethora of data and opinions being delivered on the main topic of our times as it impinged so much on our civil liberties. I agree there are no ‘experts’ on Covid but I found Campbell to be someone who I could relate to in his very unassuming and humble approach to the topic unlike so many others who had an obvious agenda. Regarding GBNews they consistently challenged the mainstream views on Covid and, through their presenters, gave a libertarian viewpoint which I found coincided with my own. I appreciate it is probably not to the taste of most on here but, on this subject at least, I found it a ‘breath of fresh air’. Anyway, hopefully we won’t be hearing too much more on Covid as there are more important things going on in the world at the present time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, razamanaz said: Why are the covid numbers so much higher up here - have the English and Welsh cut back on the testing? Masks are still legally enforceable up here. Filthy bits of cloth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: Masks are still legally enforceable up here. Filthy bits of cloth. How long after masks are dropped will they say they weren’t law but only guidance just like self isolation was? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 How long after masks are dropped will they say they weren’t law but only guidance just like self isolation was?I reckon with these numbers the SG will bottle it come 21st March. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, D.V.T. said: I reckon with these numbers the SG will bottle it come 21st March. No chance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, D.V.T. said: I reckon with these numbers the SG will bottle it come 21st March. No chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Is this still a thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Is this still a thing? It wouldn’t be if the SG made it optional as in England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It wouldn’t be if the SG made it optional as in England.Let's see two weeks tonight then. It should basically cease to exist as a thread on 21st going by that logic......[emoji102] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Jason Leitch: No reason for panic or restrictions despite Covid rise in Scotland - STV News when this c**t is saying shit happens, it really is over way back in summer 2020 he did actually say on OTB that eventually this would become endemic and there would be no need to worry or even try to prevent the majority of cases, were surely at that point A reminder that Clownshoes only a few weeks ago thought April was too soon for an outdoor party. Another absolute whopper of a contribution from yesterday's man. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Saintsible Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Theyellowbox said: It's not the masks that I think will cause the issue, it is the lack of requirement to isolate. What we should be saying is that while it is not a legal requirement, you should still be minded to isolate where possible. Not just with this, but with any virus. What also slightly gives me a fear is that we don't really know how many positive cases are out there now. If you do test positive, I'd imagine not everyone will register it. Aside from collating the numbers, there is nothing that registering a positive test helps you with. I caught Covid at my wedding in August last year. I didn’t have any noticeable symptoms until the Thursday despite catching it on the Saturday. Isolation is therefore pointless, I’d likely been walking around spreading it before I reached the point where you’d suggest I isolate. Same goes for over half the folk at the wedding who also caught it. From much of what I’ve read, you are most infectious in the days before symptoms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Saintsible said: I caught Covid at my wedding in August last year. I didn’t have any noticeable symptoms until the Thursday despite catching it on the Saturday. Isolation is therefore pointless, I’d likely been walking around spreading it before I reached the point where you’d suggest I isolate. Same goes for over half the folk at the wedding who also caught it. From much of what I’ve read, you are most infectious in the days before symptoms. That’s my take too. And a lot of people don’t even know they have it as they don’t test as their work doesn’t require it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, oaksoft said: See, this is the problem. People are just picking their heroes based on whether they are saying what they want to hear. They are all attention seeking charlatans, some of whom got a bit lucky with their predictions - like all the best charlatans. Nobody. Absolutely nobody called covid correctly. There are no "experts" in covid and there never have been. Campbell isn't a hero and GB News certainly aren't. Absolutely. Having a basic layman’s ability to understand and contextualise statistics has been a fairly useful skill to have throughout. As has the ability to keep a calm head while there was so much shrieking and catastrophising coming from elsewhere. Many of those who continue to come out of this badly are the ones who try to apply their own biases, ideologies and desire to be perceived a certain way into a global pandemic, and still refuse to self-reflect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 21 hours ago, oaksoft said: These countries thought they could entirely eradicate covid - i.e. zero cases through lockdown and very strict restrictions. Because when the next pandemic hits, these guys are absolutely not the model to be following. I do enjoy your assertive views that make for an entertaining and informative read. What would be your strategy for an outbreak like ebola? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigFairlie Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 11 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Jason Leitch: No reason for panic or restrictions despite Covid rise in Scotland - STV News when this c**t is saying shit happens, it really is over way back in summer 2020 he did actually say on OTB that eventually this would become endemic and there would be no need to worry or even try to prevent the majority of cases, were surely at that point Surprised he's saying that, likes the sound of his own voice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yes, you absolutely are missing something. What you are describing there is revisionism. These countries thought they could entirely eradicate covid - i.e. zero cases through lockdown and very strict restrictions. They repeatedly made it perfectly clear that vaccines on their own would never be enough. They were highly critical of countries like ours for opening up even after everyone had been vaccinated, arguing strongly about variants and higher case numbers bringing proportionately higher deaths. What's happening now is that they have had to give up trying to eradicate it. They made the wrong call with an eradication policy but they got very lucky that vaccines were developed in the meantime. That absolutely wasn't their intention on day 1. Why is it important to know this? Because when the next pandemic hits, these guys are absolutely not the model to be following.So your saying they should have let the virus into the country when they had, to all intents and purposes, achieved zero cases and actually had a far closer normality than most other nations? That's a bizarre take on it. Also it has nothing to do with revisionism, and let's be honest I think we all got very lucky with the vaccines. Had there been none I suspect there would have been little appetite from the general public to open up the borders again in the likes of NZ.On day 1 pretty much every governments policy was to eradicate it, just not many managed to keep the numbers low enough to see it as a possible goal. It was obvious we were screwed by about May 2020.I will add it is madness to think you can keep the virus out forever. I knew I was going to get it, everyone is eventually but to keep it at bay for as long as possible is surely what most people would strive for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Loonytoons said: So your saying they should have let the virus into the country when they had, to all intents and purposes, achieved zero cases and actually had a far closer normality than most other nations? That's a bizarre take on it. The largest city of Auckland had more days of lockdown than any city in the Northern Hemisphere, but tell me more about them enjoying 'far closer normality' because the three teuchters living on South Island were doing alright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Todd_is_God Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Some rather premature "still here?" posts recently IMO - NS still needs to sign off on the binning of masks 1 week today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 SQA released their exam help today. They'd have been better releasing nothing. For physics it includes classics like don't spend too long on a question and spell some words right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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