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17 hours ago, skinny arab said:

Fair dos, recently was the wrong choice of words but earlier in the season when he was getting brought on he was poor however he definitely deserves a chance to stake a claim for a regular place as it’s not like we have a team of players who are in such form that changes shouldn’t be made. 

The problem with Niskanen is he is a winger. A winger who is best at driving forward into space. He has proved this. Unfortunately we play him at left back (and sometimes right back), or we play very slowly and give him the ball surrounded by defenders.

This is one of the issues with our season. We have players, but the manager won't use them properly (or at all). He seems to have an issue with players who want to drive forward and not slow play, allegedly safe option all the time.

I find the manager's blindness utterly frustrating.

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15 minutes ago, Tannadeechee said:

The problem with Niskanen is he is a winger. A winger who is best at driving forward into space. He has proved this. Unfortunately we play him at left back (and sometimes right back), or we play very slowly and give him the ball surrounded by defenders.

This is one of the issues with our season. We have players, but the manager won't use them properly (or at all). He seems to have an issue with players who want to drive forward and not slow play, allegedly safe option all the time.

I find the manager's blindness utterly frustrating.

Immi is certainly a fairly limited player, but I do find it odd the lack of opportunities he has been given. It's not as if the alternatives have been any better.

I really felt for Peter Pawlett though, he was excellent before his injury. Poor c**t can't catch a break.

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23 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

Butcher was a p***k. A totally selfish layer typified by his sending off against Aberdeen last year.

Should still be replacing him though 

Yes. Can we all stop pretending he was the second coming of Claude Makelele, please? We need a player like him for sure, but a much better one.

Besides, the reasons he is no longer are the club are not footballing reasons. There was never ever going to be a way back for him at United.

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54 minutes ago, Tannadeechee said:

The problem with Niskanen is he is a winger. A winger who is best at driving forward into space. He has proved this. Unfortunately we play him at left back (and sometimes right back), or we play very slowly and give him the ball surrounded by defenders.

This is one of the issues with our season. We have players, but the manager won't use them properly (or at all). He seems to have an issue with players who want to drive forward and not slow play, allegedly safe option all the time.

I find the manager's blindness utterly frustrating.

When we signed Niskanen he were told he was a winger but whenever he plays for Finland it’s at wingback so not sure what his natural position is meant to be. I think given his work rate/playing style he needs to be playing in a high tempo team to get the best out of him and we have to be one of the slowest most pedestrian teams in the league at times. 

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1 hour ago, skinny arab said:

When we signed Niskanen he were told he was a winger but whenever he plays for Finland it’s at wingback so not sure what his natural position is meant to be. I think given his work rate/playing style he needs to be playing in a high tempo team to get the best out of him and we have to be one of the slowest most pedestrian teams in the league at times. 

This. We are so slow, predictible and easy to defend against it us unreal. Yet everytime we play well or do something well on the park it appears, to me anyway, that is because we have actually moved the ball quickly, forward and stretching the oposition. For an example see Fletcher's goal yesterday.

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1 hour ago, Sarto Mutiny said:

Yes. Can we all stop pretending he was the second coming of Claude Makelele, please? We need a player like him for sure, but a much better one.

Aye he did well for us in midfield in the championship, but was out of place once we went up a league. Our best form last season came after Butcher got injured in the 1st derby and a regular spot opened up in midfield for Levitt. By the time he was suspended by the club he was back at centre-half and performing better than he had at any point since our promotion.

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1 hour ago, captainkev said:

Aye he did well for us in midfield in the championship, but was out of place once we went up a league. Our best form last season came after Butcher got injured in the 1st derby and a regular spot opened up in midfield for Levitt. By the time he was suspended by the club he was back at centre-half and performing better than he had at any point since our promotion.

Oddly enough he'd be perfect if occupying the RCB slot for this current team 🤦‍♂️

If he wasnae such a shagger that is.

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Would have had Butcher back for centre half, not centre mid. Dont feel hes mobile enough or good enough on the ball for midfield. 

I get the impression there was no way back for him after the way he departed though.

Would have added some much needed dig but he had a rep of a hatchet man (at times very deserved) and think the refs will be looking out for him too.

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3 hours ago, skinny arab said:

Billy Thomson has passed away 😢, sad news, was a great goalie

I just read this, he was a cracking keeper - far too young, condolences to his family and the Dundee Utd fans.

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Initially found it hard to believe he was as old as 64, then realised the UEFA Cup Final was over 35 years ago.

Like a few of you have already said, the first keeper I remember at United, and he was great. Also remember him being really good for Motherwell in the early 90s

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