AmericanFan Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/whats-it-watch-two-derbies-a-day-fourfourtwo-found-out-scotland This was an interesting article to read as a foreigner, which speaks to some of the passion y'all have for the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, AmericanFan said: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/whats-it-watch-two-derbies-a-day-fourfourtwo-found-out-scotland This was an interesting article to read as a foreigner, which speaks to some of the passion y'all have for the league. Foreigner? I believe the term in America is Alien. Good try though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, AmericanFan said: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/whats-it-watch-two-derbies-a-day-fourfourtwo-found-out-scotland This was an interesting article to read as a foreigner, which speaks to some of the passion y'all have for the league. Another lazy, dull piece on the boring Celtic Sevco shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: Foreigner? I believe the term in America is Alien. Good try though. Semantics my good man. Good try though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, AmericanFan said: Semantics my good man. Good try though. You're getting the hang of this fiba' forum malarkey, aintcha ?............... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Or you could say the population of Lanarkshire in 2020 is nearly on par with Glasgow. Unfortunately 90% of them support either one of the arsecheeks Edited June 30, 2020 by santheman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: Or you could say the population of Lanarkshire in 2020 is nearly on par with Glasgow. ...and? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) Celtic the biggest team in Glasgow. Hibs the biggest team in Edinburgh. Aberdeen the biggest team in...Aberdeen. Edited June 30, 2020 by AberdeenHibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 It's all here European club attendances Click on the country you want to see from the list on the left. Then pick a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the west curve Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 29/06/2020 at 16:44, Ric said: Tables like this always make me wonder whether the OF skew the figures. It's obviously true that no matter the league you go to there will always be big teams and smaller teams, but I do wonder if the difference in attendances between top and bottom is more of a contract in Scotland than it is in other places. The OF might bring in 50/60k, and you'll have a middle ground of the Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen, but other than that we're talking the 3000 to 7000 mark. (source: BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/4847323. A lot of Scottish clubs for reasons best known to themselves give crowds way in excess to what is actually there. There is no way for example that Celtic’s average attendance is over 57000. Clubs should give out accurate figures for every game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 30/06/2020 at 21:16, AberdeenHibee said: Hibs the biggest team in Edinburgh. If you're basing the size of a club on one seasons attendance figures then it depends on what site you visit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 29/06/2020 at 19:56, Melanius Mullarkey said: its quite impressive given the level of utter shite we each had/have to endure on a weekly basis. No wonder folk like a pint before a game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Worth remembering that a lot of clubs in Scotland are absolute fucking liars when it comes to reporting attendance figures. Celtic, Hearts, Hibs, Dunfermline, Falkirk and many more, report the number of tickets sold (generally seasonticket holders not at the game). 'Attendance' surely should mean present at the match, as in "in attendance". A lot of fans of Celtic buy STs to guarantee tickets for OF matches, Cup finals, champions league etc, and probably have no intention of going along to watch them play every week. From the list of Celtic crowds from 2018, that crowd v Accies of 35,000 was reported as 56,000. Against Motherwell in December, a crowd of 32,000 odd was reported as 54700. Thats some major skewing of figures there. Only using Celtic as an example as the figures are available. Been to Hearts and Hibs many times in the past few years and you get crowds reported as 18,000 at Tynecastle, 16-17,000 at Easter Road, when you're lucky if the home end is half full. Having said all that, the support for club football in Scotland is tremendous, though it is sadly often taken for granted by those in charge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Worth remembering that a lot of clubs in Scotland are absolute fucking liars when it comes to reporting attendance figures. Celtic, Hearts, Hibs, Dunfermline, Falkirk and many more, report the number of tickets sold (generally seasonticket holders not at the game). 'Attendance' surely should mean present at the match, as in "in attendance". A lot of fans of Celtic buy STs to guarantee tickets for OF matches, Cup finals, champions league etc, and probably have no intention of going along to watch them play every week. From the list of Celtic crowds from 2018, that crowd v Accies of 35,000 was reported as 56,000. Against Motherwell in December, a crowd of 32,000 odd was reported as 54700. Thats some major skewing of figures there. Only using Celtic as an example as the figures are available. Been to Hearts and Hibs many times in the past few years and you get crowds reported as 18,000 at Tynecastle, 16-17,000 at Easter Road, when you're lucky if the home end is half full. Having said all that, the support for club football in Scotland is tremendous, though it is sadly often taken for granted by those in charge. The clubs not doing this are now the outliers tbh. Hibs ended up changing theirs because they were sick of the crowdwank jambos comparing apples with oranges. It was actually damaging to the club when it came to sponsorship etc because anyone looking at either of the two clubs were thinking Hibs had attendances about 20% below Hearts. The change of methodology seen the two of them on a par which is about right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Yeah I understand why, but it's a bit shite for comparing attendances. We can look at the table in the first post and pat ourselves on the back, but then the inaccuracy in our figures, and the limitations of capacity in some top divisions, e.g.Germany and England, make it hard to get any meaningful comparisons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Yeah I understand why, but it's a bit shite for comparing attendances. We can look at the table in the first post and pat ourselves on the back, but then the inaccuracy in our figures, and the limitations of capacity in some top divisions, e.g.Germany and England, make it hard to get any meaningful comparisons.To be fair, I don't know about Germany, but that's exactly the same way as English clubs are counting attendances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 The word "attendance" should be a clue. If you're not there you're not in attendance. If Hibs are artificially inflating their attendance to attract sponsors then that's essentially fraud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The word "attendance" should be a clue. If you're not there you're not in attendance. If Hibs are artificially inflating their attendance to attract sponsors then that's essentially fraud. Agreed, however I dare say it's a bit of a grey area. I can understand why clubs count season tickets as attendees. Whether there is an arse in the seat or not, the ticket for that match has been bought and paid for and legally (from a financial reporting POV at least) should be counted as an attendee as that seat is now occupied and no longer available to purchase. As an example, Celtic selling 50,000 season tickets of a 60,0000 capacity and only 30,000 people actually showing up to matches in the depths of winter (and being declared as such) would suggest that there are still 30,000 tickets available to sell when that's not the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 No, you're only an "attendee" if you attend. If you want to include people who have bought a ticket and didn't turn up then you need to use a different word. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, craigkillie said: No, you're only an "attendee" if you attend. If you want to include people who have bought a ticket and didn't turn up then you need to use a different word. Feck off,fans are buying season tickets knowing the games are going to be played behind closed doors what a stupid view not even restricted. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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