sparky88 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Reducing the number of EPL sides and removing a cup so that the BIG SIX can play glamour friendlies is not reasonable. Looks like some EFL mugs are going to try and push it through. Football finance expert Peter Risdale https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/13/efl-clubs-agree-to-put-their-support-behind-project-big-picture?CMP=share_btn_tw Risdale's record. Leeds - Newco'd, Barnsley - nearly liquidated, Cardiff - multiple winding up orders with debt of £66m, Plymouth - administration. Why is this guy even allowed to be involved in football? The article also doesn't clearly state that the "£250m transferred to the Football League" is actually a loan. And apparently they are getting rid of parachute payments with the money given directly to the EFL to distribute. Of course this money will be reduced while paying back the £250m loan. Even if some EFL idiots are going to try and push it through the lack of a safety net for the reduced size EPL will surely mean that the proposal goes in the bin. Scratching my head at what the problem is with the proposals- 25 percent of broadcast revenue to EFL. Funds ringfenced for football infrastructure (which should mean less money spent by the taxpayer), should guarantee the future of EFL clubs for years. Ending parachute payments may result in less kamikaze spending to get to the Barclays too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, sparky88 said: Scratching my head at what the problem is with the proposals- 25 percent of broadcast revenue to EFL. Funds ringfenced for football infrastructure (which should mean less money spent by the taxpayer), should guarantee the future of EFL clubs for years. Ending parachute payments may result in less kamikaze spending to get to the Barclays too. It the handing over voting rights to 9 (6 in reality as only 6 need agree to pass votes) clubs bit. The “big six” plus West Ham, Everton and Southampton as longest continuous members of EPL. They want to be able to vote on tv and media deals, veto new owners coming into other clubs (we’ve got our oil rich sheik but you can’t have yours type of thing), and the rescue package is apparently a loan which would have been the parachute payment money so possible needs paid back at some point (or money withheld to the value of it). Not all of the proposals seem to be that bad on their own but the Trojan horse nature of the voting rights make it unacceptable. I think the worst thing is that they’ve done this at a time when they know EFL teams are struggling badly due to Corona and are trying to use that need to take over and grab power for themselves. Sky News - Project Big Picture Edited October 14, 2020 by Jambomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 These big clubs use the bad position of smaller clubs as an excuse for a complete powergrab, they are basically holding a gun to heads. It's absolutely disgusting and immoral what they are doing. This just shows that the "big 6" don't give a sh!t about lower leagues or football in general, they only care about their own interests but act as if they're suddenly into "charity" now. This is about taking control now, next thing is stopping relegation & B-teams in the EFL and if they have full control they can push that through. Both have to be resisted at all costs. Thankfully supporters of all clubs seem to be strongly against this, including the vast majority of Liverpool & Man Utd themselves. Hopefully this disgraceful plan will be binned asap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I find it amazing that outside "The Big Six" + Everton that the next two clubs longest continuous member clubs are West Ham and Southampton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Thank f*ck for that... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 hours ago, sparky88 said: Scratching my head at what the problem is with the proposals- 25 percent of broadcast revenue to EFL. Funds ringfenced for football infrastructure (which should mean less money spent by the taxpayer), should guarantee the future of EFL clubs for years. Ending parachute payments may result in less kamikaze spending to get to the Barclays too. There is a lack of detail about the 25%. What is it 25% of? Is it all TV revenue, that would be a HUGE increase to the EFL. Going from ~£200m per season to over ~£600m. If the EFL were really getting that much additional money they wouldn't need a loan. http://priceoffootball.com/tag/broadcast-income/ Read this and you can see how the EPL changed their rules to reduce their solidarity payments to the EFL. Instead this 25% takes in the current EFL tv deal (the EPL gain the EFL broadcast rights in perpituity), all parachute and solidarity payments which totals around £400m per season. 25% still looks a generous boost ~£600m instead of ~£400m per season right? But what if it wasn't 25% of all the money. Currently the EPL has 3 pots of money. Equal shareed money that is the basis for current payments to the EFL, Merit money based on league position TV match fees Project Big Picture is scrapping pot 1 and having payments based only on merit. So the EFL's 25% will come out that pot but I assume they would not get to touch the TV match fees pot. And the BIG SIX would be free to move more and more money into TV match fees and out of shared pots in the future. Suddenly the EFL pot starts to shrink back to where it was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Dead in the water... for the time being. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54545053 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54558837 I'm struggling to see why Denise Lewis has suddenly become a 'key figure' in the future of English football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54558837 I'm struggling to see why Denise Lewis has suddenly become a 'key figure' in the future of English football. Alex Scott was busy -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 A really good example of Liverpool completely exploiting a weakness of Everton's. Almost happened again with the 2 v 1 on Coleman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Pickford you fucking moron. Dead man walking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Pickford should be sent off for that challenge on Van Dijk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 How is he not sent off there [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Lucky to escape a penalty by an inch, should be a red card regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud131 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Pickford you fucking moron. Dead man walking. Terrible tackle, lucky to get away with it. I take it the ref can't give him a yellow because it was called offside? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, accies1874 said: A really good example of Liverpool completely exploiting a weakness of Everton's. Almost happened again with the 2 v 1 on Coleman. Coleman has been poor for Everton recently, easily beaten by pace. IIRC he was left on the bench by Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Terrible tackle, lucky to get away with it. I take it the ref can't give him a yellow because it was called offside? No idea. I thought stuff like that could be punished after the whistle anyway but have no facts to back that up. It's a nice character arc to see his qualities quickly become incredibly detrimental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Ref doing Liverpool a favour there by keeping Pickford on the park and leaving both sides with a shitey 'keeper. That's a red every day of the week that challenge. Horrible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, spud131 said: 6 minutes ago, accies1874 said: Pickford you fucking moron. Dead man walking. Terrible tackle, lucky to get away with it. I take it the ref can't give him a yellow because it was called offside? Nah, you can still card. I've seen that a few times where it's been offside, or already out for a throw-in but a player has been cleared out. It's bizarre that they've not asked the referee to look at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud131 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Adrian looking abit suspect at the goal and the shot leading up to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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