Distant Doonhamer Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I thought VAR was meant to interrupt the game all night, but nothing?VAR generally only an issue if anything actually happens. I did wonder if it might get involved in the penalty shoot out though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Late to the party but still absolutely over the moon getting through last night. To be one game away from a major tournament for the first time in 17 years is exciting.Being blunt it is difficult to watch. However I can see why Clarke has gone 3/5 at the back - we conceded 19 goals in 10 games (8 if you discount San Marino) last campaign which is never going to get you through. Indeed over our last three qualifying campaigns and the first Nations League, we conceded 47 goals in 34 games. That record has to be changed and the 5 at the back is an attempt to both do that and fit in Robertson and Tierney. So I can accept that and go with it, too often we have watched Ireland shitfest their way to major tournaments while we have sat at home.Where we struggled both last month against the same opponents and last night is the passive nature of the passing of our central midfield. Jack and McGregor do not pass the ball not carry the ball forward anywhere near enough, which allowed Israel to setup behind the ball with consummate ease. Only did we stretch them when Fraser came on.Couple that with struggling wing backs and it led to a total lack of creativity. SOD is a trier but an international level player he is not. Robertson struggled against Dasa who was outstanding last night.Dykes and McBurnie escape critical words from me due to the pitiful service they received.Positively last night, Marshall was superb and the three centre halves were outstanding to a man in snuffing out Zahavi and Dabbur. To cough up one massive chance in 120 minutes is very commendable. Even McTominay looked comfortable last night.The penalties by us were superb, great composure shown by all of them. Marshall was just fantastic.It was a night that will bond this team closer together and give them confidence.It may have been turgid but the same again in Belgrade would do me nicely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Next month is it Gallagher or McKenna at the back or does Tierney come in and push them both out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: People keep saying this as if glorious failure is our thing. We've not even had any of that for ages. Abject, pitiful failure is our thing. Absolutely this. If 'glorious failure' was ever a thing (and it wasn't) we haven't 'achieved' it in decades. It's just failure. 2 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: If we can somehow shitfest Serbia, maybe we'll win the whole affair. Hey, if that honking Greece side can manage it... That Greece side managed to score goals though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenockraver Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: People keep saying this as if glorious failure is our thing. We've not even had any of that for ages. Abject, pitiful failure is our thing. Unfair. abject pitiful failure? usually we are great but lose We are in the final. This once lets just believe man . its hardly 03 holland we are playing this time. Edited October 10, 2020 by greenockraver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Absolutely this. If 'glorious failure' was ever a thing (and it wasn't) we haven't 'achieved' it in decades. It's just failure. That Greece side managed to score goals though. That Greece side could defend 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: People keep saying this as if glorious failure is our thing. We've not even had any of that for ages. Abject, pitiful failure is our thing. We snatched a draw and qualification/or play off (with Irelands amazing win) from the jaws of victory v Poland for euro 16 We threw away a play off spot v Slovenia after dragging ourselves back into contention with several wins for Russia 18 Glorious failure has remained a constant Edited October 10, 2020 by Binos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Binos said: That Greece side could defend Greece's midfield was solid in all passages of play. We could only dream to have midfield that could do the basics of Greece 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Antiochas III said: Greece's midfield was solid in all passages of play. We could only dream to have midfield that could do the basics of Greece I think our midfield is our only area we can talk up Mcginns fast becoming a talisman But aye they two or three solid midfielders in that Greek team, forget their names Kastouranis? Edited October 10, 2020 by Binos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Binos said: I think our midfield is our only area we can talk up Mcginns fast becoming a talisman But aye they two or three solid midfielders in that Greek team, forget their names Kastouranis? If you watched the last three, hell even our last five games and came away with that the defence not our midfield is the problem then I would recommend re-watching the games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Binos said: That Greece side could defend And they did score. Usually just the once, but they could do it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, greenockraver said: Unfair. abject pitiful failure? usually we are great but lose What are you on about you absolute madman? "Usually we are great"! I don't know that I've ever read quite such utter horseshit on here. We are very, very seldom ever great. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Binos said: We snatched a draw and qualification/or play off (with Irelands amazing win) from the jaws of victory v Poland for euro 16 We threw away a play off spot v Slovenia after dragging ourselves back into contention with several wins for Russia 18 Glorious failure has remained a constant You need to look up what glorious means. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 VAR generally only an issue if anything actually happens. I did wonder if it might get involved in the penalty shoot out though.I was terrified the replay would show Marshall off his line for the save but he did well (possibly through sheer luck) to keep his left foot on the line as he dived. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 10 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said: Positively last night, Marshall was superb... Marshall was just fantastic. I like Marshall and I approve of the fact that he now seems established as our first choice goalkeeper. The use of the language above is just silly though. He did fine the other night, making one good penalty save. A "superb" or "fantastic" goalkeeping display would require a string of remarkable saves. It sure as Hell wasn't the sort of game that allowed for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 10 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Absolutely this. If 'glorious failure' was ever a thing (and it wasn't) we haven't 'achieved' it in decades. It's just failure. Decade, singular. The qualification campaign for 2008 Euros was glorious failure IMO. In a group with both WC finalists and a quarter-finalist. Beating France home and away and Ukraine at home. Then that last game against Italy. That was a great campaign ending in our usual (glorious) failure but it was the last memorable campaign for the right reasons where we went toe to toe with the big teams and you felt we had a good chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusTheBull Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Antiochas III said: If you watched the last three, hell even our last five games and came away with that the defence not our midfield is the problem then I would recommend re-watching the games. Agreed, the defence has actually been pretty good the past 3-5 games, been a bit bizarre to see people slagging it off so much. The problem has been they’ve been left utterly exposed by the powderpuff midfield almost every time. He played well on Thursday, but I still think McTominay would be better suited as a deep-lying midfielder protecting the defence. J*ck/Fleck/McGregor have been fairly terrible, offering no protection or forward momentum. Edited October 10, 2020 by AngusTheBull 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 12 hours ago, ropy said: Next month is it Gallagher or McKenna at the back or does Tierney come in and push them both out Possibly McTominay, Cooper, Tierney as our back three. Cooper gives a bit of experience over McKenna which is important too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Binos said: We snatched a draw and qualification/or play off (with Irelands amazing win) from the jaws of victory v Poland for euro 16 We threw away a play off spot v Slovenia after dragging ourselves back into contention with several wins for Russia 18 Glorious failure has remained a constant There was absolutely nothing 'glorious' about that failure. 2 hours ago, paul-r-cfc said: 13 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said: VAR generally only an issue if anything actually happens. I did wonder if it might get involved in the penalty shoot out though. I was terrified the replay would show Marshall off his line for the save but he did well (possibly through sheer luck) to keep his left foot on the line as he dived. I don't think it was luck. He was checking his position each time. Seemed to me he had practiced them. 1 hour ago, Scary Bear said: Decade, singular. The qualification campaign for 2008 Euros was glorious failure IMO. In a group with both WC finalists and a quarter-finalist. Beating France home and away and Ukraine at home. Then that last game against Italy. That was a great campaign ending in our usual (glorious) failure but it was the last memorable campaign for the right reasons where we went toe to toe with the big teams and you felt we had a good chance. The failure came about due to a hideously shitebag display against a terrible Georgia who were without several regular players and had to play 3 teenagers. Nothing glorious about that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: There was absolutely nothing 'glorious' about that failure. I don't think it was luck. He was checking his position each time. Seemed to me he had practiced them. The failure came about due to a hideously shitebag display against a terrible Georgia who were without several regular players and had to play 3 teenagers. Nothing glorious about that. A game we had two stonewall penalties denied... one of then if given would have seen a red card though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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