Jurgenflopp Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Can football at this level continue in tier 4.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jurgenflopp said: Can football at this level continue in tier 4.? And if so... Can they travel outwith the health board area to play, with the new travel restrictions.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig fae the Vale Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Exemption for professional sport. WoSL got classed as professional so should be fine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgenflopp Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Craig the Hunter said: Exemption for professional sport. WoSL got classed as professional so should be fine In pre season we saw amateur teams beating some teams at this level. amateur teams are being unfairly punished in this. I don’t see how teams in level 4 can travel to others areas and vice versa and this is classed as being ok. Players at this level do not get tested the season should have been scrapped long long ago and it has been poorly managed imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, DanMan said: And if so... Can they travel outwith the health board area to play, with the new travel restrictions.... It’s the council area no the NHS area 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said: It’s the council area no the NHS area Even Council areas then, as most of the games are Glasgow v Ayrshire, North Lanarkshire v Glasgow etc etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jurgenflopp said: In pre season we saw amateur teams beating some teams at this level. amateur teams are being unfairly punished in this. I don’t see how teams in level 4 can travel to others areas and vice versa and this is classed as being ok. Players at this level do not get tested the season should have been scrapped long long ago and it has been poorly managed imo. Given that games are pretty much up to date, and there has been no evidence that playing football has caused any sort of spike in transmissions, I am not really sure what your point is TBH. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Craig the Hunter said: Exemption for professional sport. WoSL got classed as professional so should be fine And what a joke that was !!! The guy who managed to convince the government that the WoSFL be classed as professional should have been on Boris Johnson’s Brexit negotiating team and we would have had a deal months ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said: And what a joke that was !!! The guy who managed to convince the government that the WoSFL be classed as professional should have been on Boris Johnson’s Brexit negotiating team and we would have had a deal months ago. It wasn't just the WoSFL who got professional exemption. The EoSFL, SoSFL and both the North Region SJFA and East Region SJFA also got the same status. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, glensmad said: It wasn't just the WoSFL who got professional exemption. The EoSFL, SoSFL and both the North Region SJFA and East Region SJFA also got the same status. That makes the decision to classify them as professionals even worse !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jurgenflopp said: In pre season we saw amateur teams beating some teams at this level. amateur teams are being unfairly punished in this. I don’t see how teams in level 4 can travel to others areas and vice versa and this is classed as being ok. Players at this level do not get tested the season should have been scrapped long long ago and it has been poorly managed imo. You need to make your mind up about it. Either WoSFL shouldn't be playing or amateurs are being punished. They are not commutative. 3 minutes ago, DanMan said: Given that games are pretty much up to date, and there has been no evidence that playing football has caused any sort of spike in transmissions, I am not really sure what your point is TBH. Unnecessary travel generally is causing the spike. Football teams travelling is part of that. The difference with the televised and international matches is that they are providing entertainment. WoSFL matches being played with subs and committee men watching and with no promotion or relegation is the very definition of unnecessary. IMO the league are to be applauded for providing the opportunity to those who want to play but given these restrictions they really should take the common sense approach and at the very least have a hiatus in fixtures during this Level 4 restriction. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgenflopp Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, DanMan said: Given that games are pretty much up to date, and there has been no evidence that playing football has caused any sort of spike in transmissions, I am not really sure what your point is TBH. Players have jobs outwith where the virus could be contracted and passed to teammates. Then it is a case of how far it can be spread. it is now not worth it in the current situation. Scrap it and start fresh next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, glensmad said: It wasn't just the WoSFL who got professional exemption. The EoSFL, SoSFL and both the North Region SJFA and East Region SJFA also got the same status. This is the WoSFL forum though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvel legend Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 ive said it before and i can see why some teams want to play but there is no way our level of football should be continuing when u cant travel from area to area 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: You need to make your mind up about it. Either WoSFL shouldn't be playing or amateurs are being punished. They are not commutative. Unnecessary travel generally is causing the spike. Football teams travelling is part of that. The difference with the televised and international matches is that they are providing entertainment. WoSFL matches being played with subs and committee men watching and with no promotion or relegation is the very definition of unnecessary. IMO the league are to be applauded for providing the opportunity to those who want to play but given these restrictions they really should take the common sense approach and at the very least have a hiatus in fixtures during this Level 4 restriction. Better check out the latest info from the Office of National Statistics. A neutral, non-political, organisation without axes to grind. They don't agree with your premise because it's the school kids going back to school, students to College or University, and other highly social groups which have driven this second spike of covid. There again you may be aware of loads of cases brought about by the outdoor sporting and leisure activities which seem to have been targeted by the SG? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, glensmad said: It wasn't just the WoSFL who got professional exemption. The EoSFL, SoSFL and both the North Region SJFA and East Region SJFA also got the same status. And the North Caledonian, the biggest joke of the lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Dev said: Better check out the latest info from the Office of National Statistics. A neutral, non-political, organisation without axes to grind. They don't agree with your premise because it's the school kids going back to school, students to College or University, and other highly social groups which have driven this second spike of covid. There again you may be aware of loads of cases brought about by the outdoor sporting and leisure activities which seem to have been targeted by the SG? Targetting? Ask the retail businesses who have just shut their doors again how sorry they feel for sport 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkennedy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 After the Government classed us as professional football, if we are closed down everyone out with the SPL will need to be shut down. I can’t and hop that doesn’t happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mkennedy said: After the Government classed us as professional football, if we are closed down everyone out with the SPL will need to be shut down. I can’t and hop that doesn’t happen The government were conned into classing you as professional footballers. Just out a matter of interest how many tier 4 areas do your players and coaching staff have to pass through to get to Darvel for a game ??? To class teams in the WoSFL as professional while the majority of society has to stay within their council areas is a joke of the highest order Edited November 17, 2020 by Lobby Dossar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: Targetting? Ask the retail businesses who have just shut their doors again how sorry they feel for sport There again you may be aware of loads of cases brought about by the outdoor sporting and leisure activities ....... Well, examples? Interesting to see that in England the lower levels of football i.e. semi-pro and amateur have been allowed to play. There must have been many thousands of matches so far, some with attendances in the 100's so where are the examples? In the circumstances how is this not targeting by SG? Having said that SG is better than the Wales Government which has blocked all league football except for the "Anglos" and the top division, the Cymru Premier. I have read that the blocked clubs are up in arms about it (see Welsh Football Magazine). I guess the SG and WG see lower levels of football (below SPFL and CP) as easy targets. Meanwhile covid soared away in both places, hardly different to parts of England. Figure it out for yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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