RossBFaeDundee Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Ray Patterson said: The likes of Broughty, East Craigie and North End have had really good seasons since the "new" league formed a couple of years ago, but Panmure have been the standout until recently. No mention of Downfield? The anti-Spiders bias once again in full force 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 North End 5 up at half-time. If you think Joe Hart had an easy shift this afternoon,,,,,,, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Just an away trip to bottom side Forfar United sitting between Dundee North End and their first Tayside region-wide league title since 1998, as well as their first ever Scottish Cup berth. It will be an excellent achievement and one they've been building up to for a wee while. Can only hope Downfield are on a similar path instead of continuing to be a bridesmaid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Two sides with a triple digit points tally is a new one for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellyboy Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 There is a proposal going in from the Management Committe for the AGM in June for teams to play each other once (19 games) then split into two tens. This seems to be a good solution and means the teams in the bottom half still have something to play for. Will also cut the games down from 38 to 28 which makes sense these days as players seem less committed to a long season and climate change playing havoc with pitches. They could add in an extra cup or two and one could be for the top ten and one for bottom ten which would give some clubs who have had nothing to play for years to actually get into a final at least. The downside would be that there is no gurantee that all teams will have reached 19 League games at the same time however even a 2-3 week break for teams in Jan/Feb would still outweigh the benefit of the split. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welly boy Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 3 hours ago, tellyboy said: There is a proposal going in from the Management Committe for the AGM in June for teams to play each other once (19 games) then split into two tens. This seems to be a good solution and means the teams in the bottom half still have something to play for. Will also cut the games down from 38 to 28 which makes sense these days as players seem less committed to a long season and climate change playing havoc with pitches. They could add in an extra cup or two and one could be for the top ten and one for bottom ten which would give some clubs who have had nothing to play for years to actually get into a final at least. The downside would be that there is no gurantee that all teams will have reached 19 League games at the same time however even a 2-3 week break for teams in Jan/Feb would still outweigh the benefit of the split. Great idea hopefully it happens also would be good to see a licenced midlands winner actually getting into the Highland league some time soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Could the formation of a lower division for part of the season encourage one or two new clubs to apply to join? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Out of any of the teams in the league, Arbroath Vics have disappointed this season. By far the biggest population in Angus. Something is going wrong there. Forfar with two teams including a newly formed Forfar "United" also has one scratching one's head. Acht well. Not important in the wider scheme of things, just puzzling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtie78 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, Cosmic Joe said: Out of any of the teams in the league, Arbroath Vics have disappointed this season. By far the biggest population in Angus. Something is going wrong there. Forfar with two teams including a newly formed Forfar "United" also has one scratching one's head. Acht well. Not important in the wider scheme of things, just puzzling. Next season the Vics will be a part of the AFC community trust pathway system, in theory getting the best players from the community trust amateur teams (Arbroath Ammos). Sounds good in theory, but still can’t see many boys being keen to jack in ammos football where they have a good chance of winning stuff with their pals (a lot of boys play Saturday & Sunday) to go junior. Vics also on the lookout for a new management team at the minute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 10 hours ago, tellyboy said: There is a proposal going in from the Management Committe for the AGM in June for teams to play each other once (19 games) then split into two tens. This seems to be a good solution and means the teams in the bottom half still have something to play for. Will also cut the games down from 38 to 28 which makes sense these days as players seem less committed to a long season and climate change playing havoc with pitches. They could add in an extra cup or two and one could be for the top ten and one for bottom ten which would give some clubs who have had nothing to play for years to actually get into a final at least. The downside would be that there is no gurantee that all teams will have reached 19 League games at the same time however even a 2-3 week break for teams in Jan/Feb would still outweigh the benefit of the split. Decent idea, but good luck getting everyone to 19 games within a week or two of each other. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Is there not more mobility to reduce total games by reducing cup games than league? I suspect that would be more desired. Downfield who are the furtherest behind on league games gave up 8 match days for the junior cup. A 38 game league season is probably at the top end of desirable but shouldn't be uncomfortable, it's a lot closer to ideal than 28 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 13 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Is there not more mobility to reduce total games by reducing cup games than league? I suspect that would be more desired. Downfield who are the furtherest behind on league games gave up 8 match days for the junior cup. A 38 game league season is probably at the top end of desirable but shouldn't be uncomfortable, it's a lot closer to ideal than 28 I don't think a 38 game league season with just the title to play for is considered all that desirable. Probably only exists because they just had the experience of two small divisions during the dying days of the East Region. There's enough smaller teams that get the benefit of not being cut adrift to keep the single division going. Cup wise the Junior Cup is their Scottish Cup. Then its just the North/Midlands Inter-Regional Cup and their own League Cup. Tayport, Lochee Utd & potental champion getting the proper Scottish Cup chance. Cuts were made to minimise things as much as possible already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 In case you wondered what the league was like before Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023–24_Midlands_Football_League&oldid=1190217012 Only Dundee Violet on 16 games with the possibility to affect the top 10 clubs, due to their Junior Cup games being postponed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Sensible move imo. It's 28 games now - but that could potentially become more as the league hopefully grows. Say Monifeith and Dundee Uni join the league, suddenly you're looking at 21 games + an 10-12 split then it's a 30/34 game season, plus the four cup competitions it's a better length of season at this level. Spoiler Monifeith and Dundee Uni are just examples of two clubs with facilities to play at this level - don't read anything into it If the clubs really want more games then they could add a group stage to the League Cup. Although personally, I'd like to see the Midlands League teams join the Forfarshire Cup once we get the 2004-05 edition finished. The big issue of the new format is if you have lieu games from weather and cup postponements, so the league will be hoping that there isn't a team in 13th with about 6 games in hand. You'd need to put at least two break weeks in at the end of Jan/start of Feb to finish off the pre-split fixtures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Ideally, we'd get a few new clubs so we can just go to 2 division of (for example) 12. I am not aware of any new clubs applying though (doesn't mean there aren't any as I don't always hear all the rumours). I don't mind the 20 team league with playing each other twice, it's a better alternative than 2x 10 imo. But I can see it's frustrating for lower teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Don't think a split for leagues with a massive difference in quality between the top half and bottom is a bad idea if workable. DNE being favourites to win at 23 points behind Broughty and 8 games to go made the chasm clear. Wouldn't mind it being considered for the Highland League too but I doubt many would be keen, we're a traditionally minded bunch, many of whom still hate the very idea of the pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Will the post-split games be the reverse of the pre-split or randomly drawn? e.g. if a club has played 9 home & 10 away pre-split; and happen to be accompanied into their half by 6 clubs they've already played at home + 3 they've already played away; do they finish-up 12 home/16 away overall... or do they meet 2 opponents at home again (i.e. hosting them twice and never visiting)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 However they handle it they'll have to get clubs to accept there will be minor inconsistencies and not to whine about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo83 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Anyone seen Jack Wilkie playing for Brought? How has he been playing for them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, mo83 said: Anyone seen Jack Wilkie playing for Brought? How has he been playing for them? Has he been rumoured to be going to Montrose? Just being nosy as a Dundee fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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