Dee Bliss Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, johnnydun said: So completely different then. Go to bed mate. I think those meetings involved the 5 clubs and RandomGuy. This cunto seems to be in the know 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Absolutely hilarious when you look at the 5 clubs pushing this! Easily the 5 biggest underachievers in our sport are desperate for things to change... quelle surprise! After The OF, these 5 are probably the 5 next best supported clubs, which you would think would provide a base from which to achieve a degree of success. But in reality the combined amount of debt and relegations between them over the past decade tells its own story. These 5 perennial failures are right to organise a review. And it should be solely aimed at how not to run your club like a shitshow. Yet another 'look over there' from their owners which their respective supports' will swallow up. "It's someone else's fault we're shite!" St Johnstone have won the same number of major trophies in the past decade as these 5 put together. If you want to know how it's done, just pick up the phone, we're happy to help. Meanwhile, enjoy your review lads!! 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 What the hell is going on here!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: So we're hoping to get a bigger slice of the pie, along with the team who beat us to third to then cement third. What?! 4th/5th would bring in more money with a smaller SPFL. More money = Better squad = Better chance of trophies/3rd. Just now, Leith Green said: Do you seriously think that a 3rd division Spanish club would have the same clout as the Brechin chair did last year? Why shouldn't they? Why should one club have more "clout" than any other? Your own chairman was in the papers about a month ago talking about a 24 team SPFL with the "focus going on the bigger, full time sides", and said Ann Budge and "others" had backed it. I've no idea why people are pretending its about anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: It really is no surprise to see the cynicism from diddy club supporters such as St Johnstone and Kilmarnock. Fans of these clubs are happy with the status quo and live in backward waters where any sign of progress is treated like it'sa bad thing. I can only speak from Dundee's point of view, but Nelms has previously been for a larger league (including when we were in the top flight last time round) but his concerns have always been more about the marketing of the league and the shite brand of the SPFL we have now. There is no USP other than us trying to show that we are a shite, cheap knock off of the English leagues so that'll be the angle we are coming at it from. The diddy clubs affronted by not being involved will of course, once again stifle any real chance of progress. Celtic, Rangers, St Johnstone & Kilmarnock... one and the same. Pipe down. Nelms is only in there as they are not sure who will take over running the team in Dundee once the merger happens! Tell me what he has delivered or the other guys at Tannadice to merrit any real confidence that they could deliver anything meaningful in scottish football? Enjoying your shinny new stadium Yet? Agree with your other points though! Our leagues are a cheep knock off of those down south, even down to the names. Scottish footballs USP is that despite having a 2 horse race, beyond that it is very competitive, often unpredictably bonkers and incredibly well supported. Those in charge of the game either in the league bodies or at the club (yes, including my own) are too reluctant to embrace change for selfish reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, PauloPerth said: Absolutely hilarious when you look at the 5 clubs pushing this! Easily the 5 biggest underachievers in our sport are desperate for things to change... quelle surprise! After The OF, these 5 are probably the 5 next best supported clubs, which you would think would provide a base from which to achieve a degree of success. But in reality the combined amount of debt and relegations between them over the past decade tells its own story. These 5 perennial failures are right to organise a review. And it should be solely aimed at how not to run your club like a shitshow. Yet another 'look over there' from their owners which their respective supports' will swallow up. "It's someone else's fault we're shite!" St Johnstone have won the same number of major trophies in the past decade as these 5 put together. If you want to know how it's done, just pick up the phone, we're happy to help. Meanwhile, enjoy your review lads!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Is that where Nelms drinks? Big OggyOgren partakes in the bevveh in Trades. Remember the dab stalking Nelms and Ogren together in the Ferry 2 weeks ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Part of the foreign tv deal is that our 2 biggest clubs sell their games themselves. maybe if we can stop them then we can get a little more? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You’re comparing a 6 month review being undertaken by a large professional services firm to a few spfl chairmen/women thrown together in the middle of an unprecedented crisis to try and restructure the entire game within a few weeks with no vision further ahead than resolving an immediate relegation issue. Don’t be so thick. Not a single proposal has been made yet and won’t be for 6 months and if clubs don’t like it, it won’t happen. Go to bed. The same logic is behind it though. The "review" will be focussed on finding the benefits of reducing the amount of teams in the SPFL, and comparing that to the negatives of keeping a larger SPFL. Its a weighted discussion doomed to fail from the very start. These 5 clubs probably do have the "clout" to force decent change and take power from the OF, but they likely won't bother with that. It'll be all about getting rid of clubs and siphoning money towards themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Absolutely hilarious when you look at the 5 clubs pushing this! Easily the 5 biggest underachievers in our sport are desperate for things to change... quelle surprise! After The OF, these 5 are probably the 5 next best supported clubs, which you would think would provide a base from which to achieve a degree of success. But in reality the combined amount of debt and relegations between them over the past decade tells its own story. These 5 perennial failures are right to organise a review. And it should be solely aimed at how not to run your club like a shitshow. Yet another 'look over there' from their owners which their respective supports' will swallow up. "It's someone else's fault we're shite!" St Johnstone have won the same number of major trophies in the past decade as these 5 put together. If you want to know how it's done, just pick up the phone, we're happy to help. Meanwhile, enjoy your review lads!! Come back and comment when you win the top league mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Girth said: What the hell is going on here!? How come in that gif the lassie looks tidy as f**k. But if she was giving you a BJ doing that it would probably be the worst experience ever? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: 4th/5th would bring in more money with a smaller SPFL. More money = Better squad = Better chance of trophies/3rd. Yes. But other clubs would be getting a bigger share of the pie too. There's also nothing to suggest what they are up to other than pure guesswork. You're making a c**t of yourself mate. Time for bed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Girth said: What the hell is going on here!? The Perth lads are having a mare. hth 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, Merkland Red said: There's also nothing to suggest what they are up to other than pure guesswork. One of the clubs spoke just last month about cutting the SPFL down to 24 clubs, and claimed he had backing from other clubs. Its fairly obvious what this is about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoose Rice said: How come in that gif the lassie looks tidy as f**k. But if she was giving you a BJ doing that it would probably be the worst experience ever? Can't be worse than some of the Saintees takes on this thread tbqhwy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Girth said: What the hell is going on here!? Random's daein Random hings and Paulo is having a seizure, I think. Oh and this boy.. 1 minute ago, Hoose Rice said: How come in that gif the lassie looks tidy as f**k. But if she was giving you a BJ doing that it would probably be the worst experience ever? is a creepy c**t. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 The Americans have had enough of the fuds running our game. About time. Who gives a f**k about St Johnstone anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Getting to the bottom of it now. It's because St Johnstone weren't invited. Tbf, one of the main remits is increasing revenue, they're hardly going to invite the guy who sold his generational talents for a bag of mitres and some training bibs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, RandomGuy. said: One of the clubs spoke just last month about cutting the SPFL down to 24 clubs, and claimed he had backing from other clubs. Its fairly obvious what this is about. And let us not forget about Ann Budge saying there were too many teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: It really is no surprise to see the cynicism from diddy club supporters such as St Johnstone and Kilmarnock. Fans of these clubs are happy with the status quo and live in backward waters where any sign of progress is treated like it'sa bad thing. I can only speak from Dundee's point of view, but Nelms has previously been for a larger league (including when we were in the top flight last time round) but his concerns have always been more about the marketing of the league and the shite brand of the SPFL we have now. There is no USP other than us trying to show that we are a shite, cheap knock off of the English leagues so that'll be the angle we are coming at it from. The diddy clubs affronted by not being involved will of course, once again stifle any real chance of progress. Celtic, Rangers, St Johnstone & Kilmarnock... one and the same. I agree with you. Whilst nobody commenting here knows exactly what the objectives are or what the plans will be, my opinion/hope is that whatever is suggested from this review actually works and then allows clubs like Hearts and Aberdeen to gain a bit more commercial income (or again whatever they are trying to achieve) and someone eventually breaks the Old firm monopoly on the title. I’m sure if Aberdeen or someone else started winning title after title the rest of us would just get as sick of watching them as we do the other two. Then my next hope would be that by having a more exciting division and increased revenue that money would trickle down and maybe we could all start to benefit in a better league. Sadly however I doubt any of that will end up happening. Surely even if the clubs do come up with a strategy then Celtgers just block it using the 11-1 rule? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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