Todd_is_God Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: It's worth noting that the new laws under which they have been jailed were dreamed up by a Tory think tank which was funded by.............you guessed it, oil companies. Fucked around and found out. Zero sympathy for these yuppies. Hopefully applied consistently and more get flung in jail. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Otherwise known as a completely normal day on the M25. No doubt these people are insufferable in real life but the sentencing is outrageous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, invergowrie arab said: Otherwise known as a completely normal day on the M25. No doubt these people are insufferable in real life but the sentencing is outrageous. Imagine, for a second, that you are one of the people missing cancer treatment, or seeing a loved one for one last time, or missing an exam, because of these people. This wasn't someone standing outside a building holding a placard. This affected real people in tangible ways. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I was very much against the overbearing authoritarian nature of the state, restricting people's freedoms during lockdown, however I simply love the overbearing authoritarian nature of the state restricting people's freedoms and locking up non violent protesters for 5 years and I hope they do it more. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 No doubt blocking the M25 isn't on, but the sentences are way out of proportion to other crimes. The banning of them mentioning climate change in their defence also seems a bit bonkers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Thought this was a psyop tbh. The ones that got jailed were probably the moron hangers-on. At least this news will keep the reactionary British public happy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 15 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Imagine, for a second, that you are one of the people missing cancer treatment, or seeing a loved one for one last time, or missing an exam, because of these people. This wasn't someone standing outside a building holding a placard. This affected real people in tangible ways. These things happen every day because of traffic jams or road works. Would a speeding driver who causes a single vehicle crash be jailed for 5 years if they cause traffic delays or a policeman to fall off his bike? Still if you think it would change your mind on the matter I'll make a placard. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Tories out in force tonight I see. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 27 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Imagine, for a second, that you are one of the people missing cancer treatment, or seeing a loved one for one last time, or missing an exam, because of these people. This wasn't someone standing outside a building holding a placard. This affected real people in tangible ways. Like the train and junior doctor strikes and the Covid years then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Seems fair, the post office get thousands of mail sacks and they get free sex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 42 minutes ago, scottsdad said: This affected real people in tangible ways. So does climate change........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 5 minutes ago, Leith Green said: So does climate change........ More so than a road block. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 58 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Imagine, for a second, that you are one of the people missing cancer treatment, or seeing a loved one for one last time, or missing an exam, because of these people. This wasn't someone standing outside a building holding a placard. This affected real people in tangible ways. You can't lock up nice respectable middle class people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Excellent £40,000 a year a person. Ridiculous waste of time and money and resources whilst the prison population spirals out of control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, 101 said: £40,000 a year a person. Ridiculous waste of time and money and resources whilst the prison population spirals out of control. It's not a waste of time and money to punish criminals, though, or we'd just not have prisons. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandmac Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Shocking sentences,I suspect appeals will succeed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, Todd_is_God said: It's not a waste of time and money to punish criminals, though, or we'd just not have prisons. Depends what you want a prison for… I’d prefer them to keep the rest of us safe. This is performative justice. These people are a danger to no one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, 101 said: Depends what you want a prison for… I’d prefer them to keep the rest of us safe. This is performative justice. These people are a danger to no one. I disagree in this instance. This isn't someone throwing orange powder over a snooker table (as annoying as that was). Jamming up the roads affects emergency services too. Plus, as said above, how regular folk are severely affected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Cheese said: I was very much against the overbearing authoritarian nature of the state, restricting people's freedoms during lockdown, however I simply love the overbearing authoritarian nature of the state restricting people's freedoms and locking up non violent protesters for 5 years and I hope they do it more. The forum Libertarians showing their arses when the state clamps down on causes they aren't keen on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The forum Libertarians showing their arses when the state clamps down on causes they aren't keen on. It isn't the cause under discussion but the actions. I'm no libertarian. But people were harmed by these actions (plural) -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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