TommyDickFingers Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, WATTOO said: What would be the point ?? There isn't one other than sensationalism. Your average Daily mail reader would assume any explosion at Chernobyl would be : Where the reality would be (depending on which way the wind blows): 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Johnson's speech is completely focused on finance. Putin has been focused on security in his public statements. It sums up the difference in positions between the western nations and Russia with Ukraine and others stuck in the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said: There isn't one other than sensationalism. Your average Daily mail reader would assume any explosion at Chernobyl would be : Where the reality would be (depending on which way the wind blows): so knocking up the big containment structure was done for a laugh then? Firing a stray rocket into it wouldn't cause a big explosion but would release a huge amount of radiation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Boris just shouted the Bandera slogan Slava Ukraine. Please let Kieth do it as well. Edited February 24, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 “eventually militarily” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: Johnson's speech is completely focused on finance. Putin has been focused on security in his public statements. It sums up the difference in positions between the western nations and Russia with Ukraine and others stuck in the middle. Quite frankly, finance is the only weapon we have. Regards Putin and security. Utter balderdash. What security does he need. He is an expansionist despot, who now has the world teetering on the edge of destruction. And it is all on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Detournement said: Johnson's speech is completely focused on finance. Putin has been focused on security in his public statements. It sums up the difference in positions between the western nations and Russia with Ukraine and others stuck in the middle. It’s because they are speaking about different things. Putin trying to justify his attack has to at least pretend it’s about security. Johnson is focusing on finance as it’s our first weapon against him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Russian stock market down 33% today. Get buying!! (Btw that wasn’t me on the Northern Rock thread from years ago). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Yes, but I was more meaning that it's surely not the "threat" that some seemed to be making out. What would be the point ?? The threat would be if the new safe confinement structure is damaged, it means you can't really continue preparations to dismantle the old, crumbling sarcophagus around the reactor safely, and the longer you wait it might end up falling to pieces releasing radiation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Jambomo said: It’s because they are speaking about different things. Putin trying to justify his attack has to at least pretend it’s about security. Johnson is focusing on finance as it’s our first weapon against him. It definitely is about security. What else could it be? Ukraine has been talking about getting nuclear weapons, they have been waging war on a Russian population for 8 years and the USA and UK were building military bases in Ukraine with talk of Ukraine joining NATO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Seems to be quite a stooshie. With the Russians taking some losses but not entering cities yet but a few airborne assault to capture 'vitals'. You can follow the fun on https://liveuamap.com/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Or that they think it would be a suicidal tactical mistake to go head to head with a bigger force on that bigger force's terms? Then why even bother to setup against them in the east then? For keeping up appearances? Were Ukraine banking on foreign backup? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Detournement said: It definitely is about security. What else could it be? Ukraine has been talking about getting nuclear weapons, they have been waging war on a Russian population for 8 years and the USA and UK were building military bases in Ukraine with talk of Ukraine joining NATO. Alternatively they were never going to get nuclear weapons, Russia has been waging war inside Ukraine for 8 years, and Ukraine never had a hope in hell of joining NATO. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetableman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 yeah Putin what a b*****d eh? you wouldn't catch the Americans invading a country and installing a (puppet) more favourable head of government ,.that said this invasion is far more dangerous and into a far less dangerous state than iraq ever was putin has all the justification going by what the yanks have been doing or trying to do (see vietnam )since ww2 the russians got their way at the cuban missile crisis , didn't get the nato membership issue resolved with ukraine and are doing what they need to do now and bugger the consequences . putin is a C*nt but he is a strong C*nt . -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, 101 said: Friday lunchtime really isn't that great a time do hold it. If they leave it until Saturday it will be all over... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Get buying!! Not actually a bad idea in the long term, but give it a week or so to see how it pans out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyDickFingers Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Left Back said: so knocking up the big containment structure was done for a laugh then? At what point did I even allude to this ? I was commenting on the question of why Chernobyl seems so important. Strategically it is irrelevant, environmentally if a stray 2000lb bomb obliterated the sarcophagus is a different matter as you rightly stated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, oaksoft said: And your suggestion would be...? Agree a global system of security that is fair to everyone but that is never going to happen because the US needs military dominance to maintain dollar hegemony. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vegetableman said: yeah Putin what a b*****d eh? you wouldn't catch the Americans invading a country and installing a (puppet) more favourable head of government ,.that said this invasion is far more dangerous and into a far less dangerous state than iraq ever was putin has all the justification going by what the yanks have been doing or trying to do (see vietnam )since ww2 the russians got their way at the cuban missile crisis , didn't get the nato membership issue resolved with ukraine and are doing what they need to do now and bugger the consequences . putin is a C*nt but he is a strong C*nt . At least pretend you’re trying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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