Russian invasion of Ukraine

[LongTimeLurker]

Looks like Vlad is running out of friends...

 

 

[HalfCutNinja]

9 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Why would we risk putting nukes in Ukraine when we can launch them from subs in the Baltic or the Arctic? Same as Russia can do to us..

Because they're closer. This has been the battle for decades, to achieve first strike capability. Put them in Ukraine you've got that. No way could Russia allow that.

We shouldn't be angry at Russia for doing what pretty much every government In the world would have done in their position, we should be angry at our leaders for putting them in that position.

[HalfCutNinja]

4 hours ago, TxRover said:

The obvious endgame would be deploying non-existent nuclear-tipped, short range, ballistic missiles? The first rule of nuclear warheads is security. With a significant Russian population, Ukraine would be a security nightmare to base warheads in. The U.S. had issues with the nuclear tipped Jupiter missiles in Turkey, and happily traded them away for the removal of the Cuban missiles. While there are still some 50 B-61 nuclear free-fall weapon in Turkey (Incirlik AFB), there has been serious concern about their safety and security. Other locations that have seen nukes were relatively secure and distant from ABM system locations in Germany, UK and Greece, but most have been withdrawn as missile technology matured and the use of SRBM’s became pointless. Ukrainian based SRBM’s would be vulnerable in both the boost and return phase, plus SRBM’s are significantly slower than ICBM’s, and therefore easier targets.

I'm not an expert in nuclear weapons so will take your word for this. It changes nothing though, the military build up on their border couldn't be allowed to continue. We also had a dozen biolabs in Ukraine. Why? Why have we spent the last twenty years trying to collect Slavic DNA? Russia has, rightly, been complaining about this for decades. We have, quite openly, been trying to develop bioweapons that can target specific ethnicities for decades. 

Ukraine's border with Russia is 1200 miles long and stretches right into the heart of the most populated areas of Russia. And we're building biolabs along it while collecting Russian DNA.

Putin has behaved rationally and reasonably here. He's hardly a good person but he isn't in the wrong here. And btw most of the world supports him not us. We're just heavily propagandised in the West so we don't know that.

Russia has a legitimate and very serious national security concern in Ukraine. It's Putin's actual job to address that. 

[welshbairn]

6 minutes ago, HalfCutNinja said:

We're just heavily propagandised in the West so we don't know that.

[badgerthewitness]

5 minutes ago, HalfCutNinja said:

Why have we spent the last twenty years trying to collect Slavic DNA? Russia has, rightly, been complaining about this for decades. We have, quite openly, been trying to develop bioweapons that can target specific ethnicities for 

 

5 minutes ago, HalfCutNinja said:

And we're building biolabs along it while collecting Russian DNA.

Get this c**t binned for spreading misinformation.

[Sweet Pete]

What we're witnessing here is called cannabis psychosis 

[Bairnardo]

Can only assume some posters are familiar with this utter fantasist tbh.

[Detournement]

The Pentagon admitted building military biolabs in Ukraine and doing studies on Ethnic Russians. 

America has previous for targetting Russia with bioweapons.

It's also a publicly stated American aim to make bioweapons that target specific ethnic groups. 

[welshbairn]

It's nice for the world's village idiots to have somewhere to get together.

 

[Todd_is_God]

14 minutes ago, Detournement said:

It's also a publicly stated American aim to make bioweapons that target specific ethnic groups. 

 

[Sweet Pete]

I definitely did the stupidity highlights post too early in the day. Redundant within ten minutes. Keep plumbing those depths, lads.

[ICTChris]

Lots of heads gones about the prisoner swap from Russian nationalist Telegram channels.

Considering the propaganda claims for years about neo-Nazis etc, to swap the Azov commanders who regime cheerleaders have called war criminals and called for execution, for Medvedchuk, an oligarch who is pals with Putin, must be pretty jarring. 

Here is Girkin on the swap.  Khodakovsky is a sepratist leader, former Ukrainian SBU officer who defected in 2014.

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by ICTChris

[welshbairn]

1 hour ago, HalfCutNinja said:

 

Ukraine's border with Russia is 1200 miles long and stretches right into the heart of the most populated areas of Russia. And we're building biolabs along it

 

39 minutes ago, Detournement said:

The Pentagon admitted building military biolabs in Ukraine

 

Ex-Soviet Bioweapons Labs Are Fighting COVID-19. Moscow Doesn’t Like It. One of the greatest achievements of U.S. foreign policy has been targeted by a vicious disinformation campaign.

[Michael W]

2 hours ago, HalfCutNinja said:

I'm not an expert in nuclear weapons so will take your word for this. It changes nothing though, the military build up on their border couldn't be allowed to continue. We also had a dozen biolabs in Ukraine. Why? Why have we spent the last twenty years trying to collect Slavic DNA? Russia has, rightly, been complaining about this for decades. We have, quite openly, been trying to develop bioweapons that can target specific ethnicities for decades. 

Ukraine's border with Russia is 1200 miles long and stretches right into the heart of the most populated areas of Russia. And we're building biolabs along it while collecting Russian DNA.

Putin has behaved rationally and reasonably here. He's hardly a good person but he isn't in the wrong here. And btw most of the world supports him not us. We're just heavily propagandised in the West so we don't know that.

Russia has a legitimate and very serious national security concern in Ukraine. It's Putin's actual job to address that. 

 

[jagfox]

It's almost like Russia is unprepared for their mobilisation?

[Detournement]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

It's nice for the world's village idiots to have somewhere to get together.

 

The guy is a serious researcher who has published books on the Guatanamo prison camp and the US Bioweapons program during the Korea War. 

Linking to a crazy Neocon magazine isn't surprising but the issue with American explanations for these labs is why are they are run by the Pentagon and not NIH?

[dirty dingus]

Don't know about bio weapons but they've certainly got a new weapon and it's targeting a certain football food and beverage page. Always knew this site was a pro capitalist western backing sock puppet page. You just have to read the rabid establishment views on the politics forum

[jagfox]

 

[welshbairn]

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

The guy is a serious researcher

He's a retired psychologist who's an expert at adding one and two to make 96.

[Detournement]

36 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

He's a retired psychologist who's an expert at adding one and two to make 96.

Everything he publishes is backed up with documentary evidence. 

The modern British outlook on any topic seems to be that the less you know about it the better. People go from being unaware something exists to be being qualified to dismiss researchers in 2 mins. 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Detournement