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First round of voting in the French Presidential election has concluded, with exit polls indicating incumbent Macron has beaten out Front National Marie Le Pen by 28% to 23%. Left wing candidate Jean Luc Melenchon came third with 20%.

Last time round the Macron beat Le Pen 24-21 in the first round and then handily 66-34 in the run off.

I don’t know much about French politics but the two traditional parties, the Socialist Party and the centre right Republicans both scored less than 5% of the vote. If they don’t score 5% they don’t get their election costs covered and this result could bankrupt the parties. 

What do P&Bers think of our cheese eating surrender monkey neighbours latest vote?

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It looks like Melenchon voters are key to the second round. JLM has said "Not a single vote for Le Pen" so the question is abstain or vote for Macron?

If Le Pen wins it's entirely due to Macron going out his way to antagonise a huge part of the population.

 

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I expect most French voters haven't being paying much attention to Le Pen's campaign with her attempt to cloak all the racist/fascist stuff with economic social justice messaging, and Macron will win again as the least worst candidate.

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22 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I expect most French voters haven't being paying much attention to Le Pen's campaign with her attempt to cloak all the racist/fascist stuff with economic social justice messaging, and Macron will win again as the least worst candidate.

I’d be very surprised if the electorate of France don’t know what Le Pen is all about.

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Was just about to post that, didn't realise it was only exit polls, he's only 0.8% behind Le Pen, it would be glorious and a very interesting run off if he catches her.

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The FN haven’t been pumped. It’s likely their highest ever share of the vote in the first round of a presidential election. Highly unlikely Melenchon pips them to second, from what I read.   😞  

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14 hours ago, Ray Patterson said:

Might not be Le Pen in the final after all 

 

Looking at that Macron would have to seriously f**k up as the left leaning folk will give him their vote.

 

That said the turnout could play a big part in it.

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5 minutes ago, 101 said:

Looking at that Macron would have to seriously f**k up as the left leaning folk will give him their vote.

 

That said the turnout could play a big part in it.

The liberal left will no doubt vote Macron but the more Stalinist types might vote Le Pen or stay home. You'd have to think Macron will walk it though. 

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Latest opinion polling showing Macron 53 Le Pen 47.

Opinion polling has been generous to her in the past, so you'll probably end up with a Scottish Nationalist 2014 situation where people thought Yes had a big chance, but they actually finished 11% behind.

Hope I'm wrong though.

Le Pen will get 40% at the very most IMO, which would still be way up on last time.

The youth will change things in France over the next few decades.

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10 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

Le Pen is yet another Nazi with links to Putin.

Get her fired into the sea.

What would be mildly amusing if Le Pen squeaks a win is all the hand-wringing in sections of the media here, churning out editorial pieces about 'what this signifies for Europe' and so on, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the UK elected a bunch of equally as odious and reprehensible worstcunts years ago.

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1 minute ago, Boo Khaki said:

What would be mildly amusing if Le Pen squeaks a win is all the hand-wringing in sections of the media here, churning out editorial pieces about 'what this signifies for Europe' and so on, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the UK elected a bunch of equally as odious and reprehensible worstcunts years ago.

I’ve no time for Tories but the FN is in a different league despite Le Penn’s effort to disguise it.  There will be nothing “mildly amusing” about her getting elected.

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9 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

What would be mildly amusing if Le Pen squeaks a win is all the hand-wringing in sections of the media here, churning out editorial pieces about 'what this signifies for Europe' and so on, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the UK elected a bunch of equally as odious and reprehensible worstcunts years ago.

You'll get hand-wringing, but it won't like that that.

It'll be the same type of bizarre hysteria you had from the anti-Trumpers who had us believing he was about to take us all into Nuclear War.

Then, as things turned out, he was the most peaceful President in living memory.

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43 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Latest opinion polling showing Macron 53 Le Pen 47.

Opinion polling has been generous to her in the past, so you'll probably end up with a Scottish Nationalist 2014 situation where people thought Yes had a big chance, but they actually finished 11% behind.

Hope I'm wrong though.

Le Pen will get 40% at the very most IMO, which would still be way up on last time.

The youth will change things in France over the next few decades.

In what way will the youth change it?

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1 minute ago, BigDoddyKane said:

In what way will the youth change it?

I heard something on the French news channel last night about 20-35 year olds being the age of those most likely to vote Le Pen. So basically the opposite of here. Piece here about it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017/4/20/why-does-le-pen-get-so-much-support-from-young-voters

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