John Bonham Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: He's been given the deal because he's been trusted, correctly in my opinion, to be a part of the bigger picture, specifically overseeing the club's substantial structural changes. Even though the current board have broadly had their hearts in the right places and have made massive improvements in the off-field stuff, the football department, if such a thing has even existed, has been neglected for years. Steve Clarke being a tremendous manager papered over the cracks for a bit, but even then there was no hint of a strategy, just a reliance on the manager doing everything, which leads to an increased risk of the balloon bursting quickly, which it did. More or less everything we've done recruitment and retention wise since then has been awful, and in particular we're still suffering from last summer's squad building, the amount of absolute tripe we still have under contract and can't get rid of is ridiculous. What McInnes inherited was a mess and it was only his additions of Lafferty and Taylor that just about dragged us over the line unreservedly last season. I thought we'd be better off than we are this season, mainly because I was expecting us to be able to move more people on, and thus be able to sign some better players later in the window, but that simply hasn't happened. We've addressed the off-field stuff now by bringing in a few people who will modernise that, but it takes time, and they're likely going to have a huge job to do in January. You'll obviously get a few grumbles from the reactionaries off the back of some bad results, there's already examples in this thread, but ultimately if you have to keep sacking managers it's probably not the managers who are the issue. I'd rather commit to a guy with a brilliant track record and trust him to turn it around. I'd say we've been competitive in enough of our games to not be cut adrift or anything like that, and I'm still expecting to be able to go out and win tomorrow night. That would seem somewhat unfair since we won’t be there until Wednesday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: He's been given the deal because he's been trusted, correctly in my opinion, to be a part of the bigger picture, specifically overseeing the club's substantial structural changes. Even though the current board have broadly had their hearts in the right places and have made massive improvements in the off-field stuff, the football department, if such a thing has even existed, has been neglected for years. Steve Clarke being a tremendous manager papered over the cracks for a bit, but even then there was no hint of a strategy, just a reliance on the manager doing everything, which leads to an increased risk of the balloon bursting quickly, which it did. More or less everything we've done recruitment and retention wise since then has been awful, and in particular we're still suffering from last summer's squad building, the amount of absolute tripe we still have under contract and can't get rid of is ridiculous. What McInnes inherited was a mess and it was only his additions of Lafferty and Taylor that just about dragged us over the line unreservedly last season. I thought we'd be better off than we are this season, mainly because I was expecting us to be able to move more people on, and thus be able to sign some better players later in the window, but that simply hasn't happened. We've addressed the off-field stuff now by bringing in a few people who will modernise that, but it takes time, and they're likely going to have a huge job to do in January. You'll obviously get a few grumbles from the reactionaries off the back of some bad results, there's already examples in this thread, but ultimately if you have to keep sacking managers it's probably not the managers who are the issue. I'd rather commit to a guy with a brilliant track record and trust him to turn it around. I'd say we've been competitive in enough of our games to not be cut adrift or anything like that, and I'm still expecting to be able to go out and win tomorrow night. Agree with all of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 That would seem somewhat unfair since we won’t be there until Wednesday. I was just being considerate of those reading the post on Tuesday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Bit unfair on those that don’t read it until Wednesday and miss the game as a result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 @andrewh the date in the thread title is annoying me a lot more than it should. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Motherwell’s result last night has made this an even bigger game for both teams I guess. A win for Killie and they can get some form going and get the leap on County. A saints win and we move further away from the bottom and keep on the coattails of Motherwell and Hearts in the top 6. So a dull draw that helps neither team incoming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 0-2 St Johnstone. This is one of the worst Killie sides ever put together. A defence who concede goals for fun and the worst midfield in the league. We make so few meaningful chances and those that we do make, our strikers don't take (though it's such a small sample size, it's hard to draw meaningful conclusions) When Liam Polworth is one of your standout players of the season, you know things are bad. I absolutely desperately hope I'm proven wrong tonight and can folk can pile in quoting me, telling me I'm overreacting. But on all the evidence this season, we are going straight back down without a fight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 04/10/2022 at 07:33, kingjoey said: @andrewh the date in the thread title is annoying me a lot more than it should. Sorted. It was originally 10/9/22 and I entered 10/3/22. 3 and 9 are quite close together and that’s my excuse. Then the queen died and it all changed again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Has the game been moved to Monday night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Well at least you got the year right Andrew eh?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Patterson Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Killie fans. Do they still have the vegan pies available at Rugby Park, and are they any good? Intrigued to give them a go and probably won't have time to get scran before the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Derek Patterson said: Killie fans. Do they still have the vegan pies available at Rugby Park, and are they any good? Intrigued to give them a go and probably won't have time to get scran before the game. I havent had much from the pie stalls lately as theres almost always too big a queue, but I believe there is. Think they changed what's in them, mind you. So yes, fairly certain there still is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, deadasdillinger said: Think they changed what's in them, mind you. Meat ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Derek Patterson said: Killie fans. Do they still have the vegan pies available at Rugby Park, and are they any good? Intrigued to give them a go and probably won't have time to get scran before the game. Yeah mate there is. Vegan Chicken and Mushroom. It's quorn that's inside it, I'm not a massive fan of it. Wish we had more vegan options tbh. Edited October 5, 2022 by Nadroj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, PauloPerth said: Well at least you got the year right Andrew eh?! He's got the month and the year right now. I presume he's taking the pish now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nadroj said: Yeah mate there is. Vegan Chicken and Mushroom. It's quorn that's inside it, I'm not a massive fan of it. Wish we had more vegan options tbh. Vegan pies at a Scottish football ground - kinda wish I had gone now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Vegan pies? More like kick in the pie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Crawford starts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Saintee said: Crawford starts. The games fucked before a ball is kicked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Haven’t paid attention this week, has it been stated that Murphy is injured. It’s the only explanation. Thought we might mix it up a bit more with the match on Saturday lunchtime looming. If we’re not sitting third in the table come 3pm this Saturday, some serious questions need to be asked.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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