eez-eh Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Congrats. Maybe if you ask Stenhousemuir and Syngenta really nicely, they’ll let you put up a plaque somewhere in Ochilview to commemorate your elite status? 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ye Olde Hamiltonian said: Fwiw,I can see them playing home games at my ground next season if they go up(Hamilton) if Lesser Hampden still has a ludicrous capacity and home games against The Old Firm at Hampden which would easily bring in over £1million in revenue which would sustain them. I agree that it’s a ludicrous capacity but what would be the point of spending all that money on Lesser Hampden and then still ground-sharing? As for OF games at Hampden, I’m not sure you’re allowed to move league matches several times a season in order to make more money. Edited January 13, 2023 by JagsCG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 This Elite status stuff is looking evermore like a waste of finances. We are in the bottom tier - we decided it wasn't worth the outlay to achieve this standard set by the SFA but still have ambitions to develop our own youth talent and it'sa big part of our plans with the future with them following a 'blueprint' developed by Gordon Strachan (which might turn out to be terrible - time will tell). We currently have one of the youngest, if not the youngest, squads in the league and have Harrision Sharp, Cammy Kerr (who is too old to be considered a 'youth' anymore), Josh Mulligan, Max Anderson, Finlay Robertson and Lyall Cameron who have all came through our youth system that have featured for us significantly in the league this season with the likes of Sam Fisher, Lake Strachan and Jack Wilkie also featuring in the cups and now out on loan. The Elite system might be amazing but all it's proving within the context of this thread is that Queen's Park are throwing a hell of a lot of money about which leans into the Gretna comparisons. I mean, a youth coach from the top of Dutch football? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ye Olde Hamiltonian Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, JagsCG said: I agree that it’s a ludicrous capacity but what would be the point of spending all that money on Lesser Hampden and then still ground-sharing? As for OF games at Hampden, I’m not sure you’re allowed to move league matches several times a season in order to make more money. The issue is they have a ground currently too small even for this level of football.A 4-5,000 capacity ground should have been the plan, but this Royal Box fiasco has affected the capacity I think. My point was I can see them playing at Accies until Lesser Hampden is up to scratch capacity wise as our ground would be able to handle three teams if Queens played home games on a Friday or Sunday with Accies/Clyde on The Saturday. They wouldn't do it at Firhill due to wrecking the pitch,so Airdrie would probably be the only other feasible short term solution unless they just use Hampden till Lesser Hampden is ready. As for Hampden,it is The Old Firm so rules can be changed to accommodate.My team played at three different home grounds a few times when we were homeless,so that issue would be overcome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Thanks for looking in, lads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanetti Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: We currently have one of the youngest, if not the youngest, squads in the league Dundee are actually mid table for average squad age, with the fifth oldest. We have the second youngest. Edited January 13, 2023 by Zanetti 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, flyingscot said: Not entirely down to the academy, which I think is actually elite level now. It did go over budget however which didn't help. Most of the loss was refurbishing the training ground (where the academy is) that went well over budget. We've already got that sorted. Recently signed a 50 year lease for exclusive use of the former Police Sports ground in Pollok Estate. Superb facility and we're shoring up any areas that are needed now that we have the lease signed. Grass pitches, artificial pitches, floodlights, kitchen/dining area, sports science clinic etc. Despite all the route-one comments about our first team, which doesn't compare remotely to what Mileson did, the club and it's main sponsor are investing significantly more money in the future than they are the now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ye Olde Hamiltonian said: The problem I have with Queens Park is the cack-handed and shambolic rebuilding of Lesser Hampden -in particular the nonsensical "Royal Box". A Queens Park side at the top end of this League/top division would have decent enough crowds to sustain full-time football and an Elite Youth Academy without Willie Haughey's or the sale of Hampden money. Fwiw,I can see them playing home games at my ground next season if they go up(Hamilton) if Lesser Hampden still has a ludicrous capacity and home games against The Old Firm at Hampden which would easily bring in over £1million in revenue which would sustain them. Your comments are all valid and a source of much frustration for QP fans also. This topic is about the good stuff happening at the club. Maybe some enlightened directors at other clubs will see the light one day too and Scottish football as a whole will be in a better place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave94 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: This Elite status stuff is looking evermore like a waste of finances. We are in the bottom tier - we decided it wasn't worth the outlay to achieve this standard set by the SFA but still have ambitions to develop our own youth talent and it'sa big part of our plans with the future with them following a 'blueprint' developed by Gordon Strachan (which might turn out to be terrible - time will tell). We currently have one of the youngest, if not the youngest, squads in the league and have Harrision Sharp, Cammy Kerr (who is too old to be considered a 'youth' anymore), Josh Mulligan, Max Anderson, Finlay Robertson and Lyall Cameron who have all came through our youth system that have featured for us significantly in the league this season with the likes of Sam Fisher, Lake Strachan and Jack Wilkie also featuring in the cups and now out on loan. The Elite system might be amazing but all it's proving within the context of this thread is that Queen's Park are throwing a hell of a lot of money about which leans into the Gretna comparisons. I mean, a youth coach from the top of Dutch football? According to TM you have the 4th oldest ave. at 25.5 which is young but many of the other Championship clubs also have young squads. Accies have the youngest at 23. source - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish-championship/startseite/wettbewerb/SC2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon eh Ton Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mission said: Anyway, top of the championship following two successive promotions, shows we are doing something right. Aye? What's that, then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Ye Olde Hamiltonian said: The issue is they have a ground currently too small even for this level of football.A 4-5,000 capacity ground should have been the plan, but this Royal Box fiasco has affected the capacity I think. My point was I can see them playing at Accies until Lesser Hampden is up to scratch capacity wise as our ground would be able to handle three teams if Queens played home games on a Friday or Sunday with Accies/Clyde on The Saturday. They wouldn't do it at Firhill due to wrecking the pitch,so Airdrie would probably be the only other feasible short term solution unless they just use Hampden till Lesser Hampden is ready. That's all fair, I must've read it wrong I thought you were suggesting they groundshare with Accies even after Lesser Hampden opens (due to the larger capacity at NDP). Didn't know they had plans to increase the capacity of Lesser Hampden beyond what has already been reported, would certainly make sense to do so especially if they get promoted. QP fans must be absolutely fed-up of ground sharing though, not particularly good if they had to have another season elsewhere too. Edited January 13, 2023 by JagsCG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledLichtie Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 This is making me nostalgic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowdenleith Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Ooooh, I love the jealousy, those uppity former amateurs now punching above their expected level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjameos Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, Mon eh Ton said: Aye? What's that, then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of B A R P Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 'We're no Gretna... we're Gretna wi a youth set-up'. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 We're all winding QP up, it'll be great. Everybody that tried this before got it wrong, QP know better and I can't see anything going wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Crazy to think that all Gretna would have needed was a good youth team. What could have been for the Raydale mob eh? Edited January 13, 2023 by AuAl 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 When is this stage in the QP fairytale? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I'm sure the whole league will be getting fully behind whichever team happens to be playing Mr. Monopoly FC tomorrow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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