The Malik Tillman Incident - What Would You Want?

[Miguel Sanchez]

Last week in the cup, Rangers scored a goal against Partick Thistle when Malik Tillman, who had been off receiving treatment, ran on and won the ball back and scored while the Thistle defender was trying to return the ball to Rangers when play was resumed. Hilarity ensued, and Michael Beale subsequently told his team to let Thistle score.

This is the sort of incident in football that actually has some recent history - Marcelo Bielsa told his Leeds team to do the same thing a few years ago:

To me, so far, so heartening. In a sport full of cynicism and cheating, the idea of sportsmanship in response to an honest mistake is something to be admired.

It appears some Rangers fans would disagree

It's an unusual situation. What would you want your club to do - really? I've kept the votes anonymous so everyone can be honest.

[Salvo Montalbano]

One of Stevie Crawford's goals for Plymouth was scored in similar style when a goal was scored after a player didn't know about/ignored the convention and scored when the defender was going to boot it back up the park. And Arsenal famously scored against Sheffield United in the FA Cup when the ball was being thrown back in and while they didn't let United score immediately afterwards, Arsene Wenger offered to replay the game which the FA and Sheffield Utd accepted. 

I'd be hoping my own team let the opposition score. Unless it was one of the Gruesome Twosome. Or maybe Falkirk. Or the Rovers. But normally, aye - bash on then let's get the game restarted.

[Mark Connolly]

Can we have an option for "I'd like to give up the whole pretence that horsing the ball 70 yards away from where it was put out is in any way sporting"?

[invergowrie arab]

Very poor of St Johnstone not to offer this on Saturday.

[coprolite]

I expect this thread will be full of people pointing and laughing at The Rangers' fans. Rightly so. 

[gannonball]

Where's the penalty to Rangers option?

[Jacky1990]

Teams shouldnt be putting the ball out for an injured player in the first place. Let the ref stop it if he thinks its a head knock or a serious injury. Other than that play on and we dont end up with these situations.

On this incident though, it was the right thing for Rangers to do and would like to think Thistle would do the same. But it is fucking hilarious that some mutants are raging about one of the only decent acts their horrible little club has ever done. 

[Albertlegend]

There should be an option for don't put the ball out at all, it's a lot of shite, let the ref decide if play needs to be stopped. Takes all of these issues away! 

However in the Rangers incident, it was the right thing to let Thistle score, as has been said previously a good chance for Rangers to look like the good guys for once and the fans lose the plot! 

The guy on the phone in going on about how badly Tillman could be injured, he ran on and scored can't be that bad! 

[gannonball]

8 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said:

Teams shouldnt be putting the ball out for an injured player in the first place. Let the ref stop it if he thinks its a head knock or a serious injury. Other than that play on and we dont end up with these situations.

On this incident though, it was the right thing for Rangers to do and would like to think Thistle would do the same. But it is fucking hilarious that some mutants are raging about one of the only decent acts their horrible little club has ever done. 

I appreciate this won't be too popular but perhaps put onus on the 'injured' player to raise there hand to stop play and an accepted minimum time for assessment in or immediate substitute. Would stop players feigning injury as much or that the injury doesn't require immediate care and stopping the game

Edited February 20, 2023 by gannonball

[The Other Foot]

I would have supported Beale's decision anyway, but the fact that some furious **** have decided to use it as an example of 'wokeness' makes me even more sure it was the right decision. 

[pozbaird]

My only surprise is that having allowed Thistle to score unchallenged, VAR didn’t intervene and tell the referee to make sure The Rangers get something for free too. Shit, just spotted the problem with my view. That happens anyway.

[gannonball]

I would be probably hypocritical and have it dependent on the situation tbh, would have to be a league deciding match or an important European scenario to not let them score.  I wouldn't be a roaster though and boo the manager for making the morally right decision however ffs.

[eez-eh]

I don’t think the Leeds one is as clear-cut as the Rangers one. The Villa players just stopped playing because they expected the ball to be put out, which is a bug-bear of mine. Would have been quite funny if Leeds didn’t give the goal back.

Edited February 20, 2023 by eez-eh

[itzdrk]

Total VL loser behaviour.  Only thing worse was when that FA cup tie got replayed.  

Kevin Holt took a bad touch and did give the ball back to Rangers, just not how he planned.  Tillman was right.  

Edited February 20, 2023 by itzdrk

[brainier]

40 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

One of Stevie Crawford's goals for Plymouth was scored in similar style when a goal was scored after a player didn't know about/ignored the convention and scored when the defender was going to boot it back up the park.

I was at this game, I was in the area on holiday and went to watch Keith Lasley playing for Plymouth. The offending goal came when the keeper expected it played back to him after an injury and the player punted it goalward but the keeper had come to the corner of his box and it flew over his head. The same player then followed that 40 yarder with two more legitimate stunners from outside the box for his hat trick. 

He is now the manager of Hibs. 

Edited February 20, 2023 by brainier
missing word!

[Shuggie_Murray7]

The Rangers one was the correct decision.

The Leeds one, on the othwer hand - there is absolutely nothing wring with that goal and I'd have been fuming if I was a Leeds fan.

[Thenorthernlight]

I wouldn’t want my player to be a cheating c**t pretending to not know what was going on. 

[The Other Foot]

14 minutes ago, brainier said:

I was at this game, I was in the area on holiday and went to watch Keith Lasley playing for Plymouth.

 

Just had to interrupt the thread briefly to say that this sounds like the worst holiday ever. 

[coprolite]

I'm sure i can remember us correctly keeping the ball and unfortunately not scoring when an opponent had gone down blatantly uninjured and time wasting and their own team has put the ball out. f**k that. 

[AJF]

6 minutes ago, Thenorthernlight said:

I wouldn’t want my player to be a cheating c**t pretending to not know what was going on. 

Trying too hard.