The_Kincardine Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: This stuff is literally all you have in life now, isn't it? Amazing Dafty. You post so much about me that it gets worrying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Dafty. You post so much about me that it gets worrying. As a Rangers fan living in England, you're lashing out a bit. Never mind you have a cup semi final and the King's Coronation to celebrate soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, GTee said: As a Rangers fan living in England, you're lashing out a bit. Never mind you have a cup semi final and the King's Coronation to celebrate soon. And thankfully 99.9% of the UK cares not one jot about either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, GTee said: As a Rangers fan living in England, you're lashing out a bit. What do my team and my domicile have to do with anything? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) No auditors want to touch the Nats with a barge pole but don't worry, says Humza. Interesting to see which of the DWTGs will take exception to this post and do their usual, "Aye but" dross. Edited April 24, 2023 by The_Kincardine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Nothing pal. My niece and her husband live close to Bournemouth. Had a good get together recently. Two of my closest pals are Rangers fans. Got family in Renfrewshire. St. Mirren and Rangers fans. Anyway 2-0 the sheep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 British Nationalists of the submissionist Scot variety believing the current difficulties for the SNP equate to the people of Scotland just forgetting about independence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 The Gincardine has to post uber staunch made up Bitnattery or his successful pals down the golf club wouldn't let him carry one of their golf bags at the weekly 4 ball scramble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 hours ago, dirty dingus said: The Gincardine has to post uber staunch made up Bitnattery or his successful pals down the golf club wouldn't let him carry one of their golf bags at the weekly 4 ball scramble. Would he even have time? He seems to spend it all obsessively hunting down Twitter stuff to post on here which literally nobody gives a f**k about. A truly bizarre and somewhat sad existence tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Kinky making a complete arse of himself after having to much to drink on his lonely Monday sesh again, tragic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: Would he even have time? He seems to spend it all obsessively hunting down Twitter stuff to post on here which literally nobody gives a f**k about. A truly bizarre and somewhat sad existence tbh. If it wasn’t for the likes of him, this place would just be Nats agreeing with each other about how the public won’t find any of this worrying because they all want independence. He’s one of the current stars of the P&B Politics Forum as the token Yoon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Perhaps worth getting this back on topic after Kinkys hilarious detour. Its now almost 3 weeks since Murrell was arrested. What the f**k are Police Scotland and the COPFS up to? They seem to have moved from searching premises and briefing the BBC about "massive fraud" to leaking stories to the Sunday Mail about (seriously !!) SIM cards. They had 2 years of investigations before "the search" and - assuming some degree of competence - I kinda thought they must know broadly what they are looking for and were just dotting the i's before charging someone. The longer this goes on, the more it has police cockup written all over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razamanaz Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Makes Scot Squad look like a documentary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Don't get why it's taken 2 years but they've only had 3 weeks to go through all the van loads of boxes they took away from the house and SNP HQ, I doubt they have a big team of forensic accountants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Don't get why it's taken 2 years but they've only had 3 weeks to go through all the van loads of boxes they took away from the house and SNP HQ, I doubt they have a big team of forensic accountants. Without trying to be smart - if the £600k was in a bank account (which it was) then all they need to do is get the detail of where that money was moved to - and the banks or other financial organisations actually perform that work. If it has then been moved on outside the banking system, unless its been moved into cash or gold (or a caravan !!) its not that tricky or that big a case - they are used to chasing drug dealers cash. They surely just need to determine if the money has been used legally or not? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Without trying to be smart - if the £600k was in a bank account (which it was) then all they need to do is get the detail of where that money was moved to - and the banks or other financial organisations actually perform that work. If it has then been moved on outside the banking system, unless its been moved into cash or gold (or a caravan !!) its not that tricky or that big a case - they are used to chasing drug dealers cash. They surely just need to determine if the money has been used legally or not? If it was only about the £600k I don't think it would have taken 2 years even if they weren't getting cooperation from Murrell and HQ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: Without trying to be smart You’re certainly not giving the impression you know the first thing about investigations anyway. Without commenting on the specifics of the investigation (which I have no insider insight into) Fraud and financial crime is amongst the most complex types of crime to investigate and prove. Its no where near as simple as you seem to allege every time you make a jibe about apparent police incompetence. The search and most probably the entire investigation will be led or directed by a fiscal. Warrants such as those executed must pass through a senior police officer, a procurator fiscal and a sheriff to establish the parameters, limitations and reasons for the search. 3 weeks is no where near enough time to review years of financial data and conclude an investigation, especially if they need to then look at further bank accounts/premises or financial information. Every bank account is a separate warrant, every credit card is a separate warrant, every premises is a separate warrant. You can sound off in the echo chamber of ‘the polis are pure shite because they’d get this done on the bill in 45 minutes’ but really just makes you look like you havent got a clue what you’re talking about. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Yeah, proving fraud is easy because fraudsters just move money from one account called "Big Legitimate Business Account' to another account marked "Cocaine, Hookers and Big Fancy Motorhomes". What's taking them so long to wrap this up? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budmiester1 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: You’re certainly not giving the impression you know the first thing about investigations anyway. Without commenting on the specifics of the investigation (which I have no insider insight into) Fraud and financial crime is amongst the most complex types of crime to investigate and prove. Its no where near as simple as you seem to allege every time you make a jibe about apparent police incompetence. The search and most probably the entire investigation will be led or directed by a fiscal. Warrants such as those executed must pass through a senior police officer, a procurator fiscal and a sheriff to establish the parameters, limitations and reasons for the search. 3 weeks is no where near enough time to review years of financial data and conclude an investigation, especially if they need to then look at further bank accounts/premises or financial information. Every bank account is a separate warrant, every credit card is a separate warrant, every premises is a separate warrant. You can sound off in the echo chamber of ‘the polis are pure shite because they’d get this done on the bill in 45 minutes’ but really just makes you look like you havent got a clue what you’re talking about. Exactly, a friend of mine is a Forensic Accountant with HMRC, he’s said that it can literally take years to prosecute major tax fraud and even simple cases can take months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I’d quite fancy a motorhome to tour Scotland. Do any P&Bers have a motorhome that could share their experience? Perhaps this is not the place to discuss such matters. Is there a thread on the forum that discusses such things? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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