FREDDYFRY Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bullyweeno1 said: Maybe but I think if any bid will be successful there one will 1. They are already embedded in the local area 2. They have support from local MPs, councillors etc. Not all are supportive and all current users want Clyde bid to succeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 The most interesting piece of the jigsaw was redacted in the document. The numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Stirling Uni or Livingston B in the challenge cup Box office. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyweehutch Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Clyde01 said: Stirling Uni or Livingston B in the challenge cup Box office. Sooner that tournament is scrapped the better. Fucking B teams have it on a par with the Glasgow cup for competitiveness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Competition is still on my boycott list and has been since the B teams, Colts or whatever way the dress it up we’re allowed in! Tainted Cup and should either be scrapped, ignored or boycotted by fans of non B teams Clubs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right turn Clyde Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, FREDDYFRY said: Competition is still on my boycott list and has been since the B teams, Colts or whatever way the dress it up we’re allowed in! Tainted Cup and should either be scrapped, ignored or boycotted by fans of non B teams Clubs. You should go- it’s a good insight to our future fixtures 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 56 minutes ago, FREDDYFRY said: Competition is still on my boycott list and has been since the B teams, Colts or whatever way the dress it up we’re allowed in! Tainted Cup and should either be scrapped, ignored or boycotted by fans of non B teams Clubs. Snap! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Harry Hood Fan Club said: You should go- it’s a good insight to our future fixtures I’ll no be going to those either, certainly not if there are still B teams in the LL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right turn Clyde Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 On 04/07/2023 at 12:21, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: The most interesting piece of the jigsaw was redacted in the document. The numbers. Can you expand on your comment please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Certainly. There were no budget numbers for running the site, cost of Clyde FC renting for their use, grants and other income from other users etc. So there was no way to judge the financial viability of the project. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right turn Clyde Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: Certainly. There were no budget numbers for running the site, cost of Clyde FC renting for their use, grants and other income from other users etc. So there was no way to judge the financial viability of the project. Thanks. Surely some of the most important information required to make a judgment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Why would the Club put any financial figures on the public domaine? I’d imagine as in most cases such bids etc will be for the eyes of those deciding the award only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 They wouldn't. That doesn't change the fact that for me this will be the most interesting piece of the jigsaw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: They wouldn't. That doesn't change the fact that for me this will be the most interesting piece of the jigsaw. Can’t disagree with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 7 hours ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: They wouldn't. That doesn't change the fact that for me this will be the most interesting piece of the jigsaw. They must surely be a lot lower than Broadwood seeing as we were repeatedly told the costs there had us unable to compete with teams that had a social club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Snake Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) My main query from skimming through the Crownpoint documents was how much scope will there be for the club itself to actually make money there. The idea in the past has always been if we had our own ground and could rent out the pitch and other facilities during the week we could make money from it. Clearly the bid from the Foundation was trying to make them sound like they would be best placed to run the whole site and that they would be keen to deal with all the current, past and potential users of Crownpoint. But with so many mentions of schools and clubs, including St Mungos IIRC having rights to use it essentially any time during school hours, how much scope will there really be for the club itself to make money from the site outside of normal football days, match day catering etc. Especially when the Foundation has to make enough money to maintain and improve the place. Maybe they will build in an agreement that certain areas of the site will be run by the club with them keeping the profits or maybe we will just take a small cut of sales but you can't imagine thar would be very much. Edited July 6, 2023 by Jaggy Snake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Clyde01 said: They must surely be a lot lower than Broadwood seeing as we were repeatedly told the costs there had us unable to compete with teams that had a social club. Wasn't the costs it was the inability to drive other revenues. It remains to be seen what the commercial deal is with Crownpoint and whether there is any scope for the club to improve their financials. There will be a whole host of costs involved in operating a facility like that if they're taking on sole repsonsibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrigtonClyde Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 SLC raises a good point. For clarification : The proposal submitted was by The Clyde FC Community Foundation, a charity registered as a PLC in the form of a limited liability company. As such, they are a completely separate legal entity from The Clyde Football Club CIC, with a completely different operational remit to provide sporting activities, opportunities and facilities for the wider public. Very similar in nature to Glasgow Life which is why it was the Foundation who submitted the proposal and not the football club. The Foundation have applied for a Community Asset Transfer. There’s various forms of those, but we’ll assume it’s for full ownership. If successful, the Foundation would own all of the land within the complex, and would be charged with the running of all of those facilities. As a charity, any revenue generated by them could not legally be siphoned off to the benefit of the football club. Effectively the only link between the two organisations is the ex directors of one set up the other and one individual is currently a director of both, but in a legal and practical operational sense, they are completely separate entities. If the Foundation is successful, the proposal then has an accommodation built in for The Clyde Football Club CIC to have use of the existing football pitch. But presumably there would then have to be a legally binding agreement in place between the two outlining ownership of the land, responsibility of sourcing funding for and ownership of the bricks and mortar, terms of usage – whether for example the facility must be made available for wider community use, and if so would the club be permitted to earn from that under the terms agreed between the Foundation and Glasgow Life (GCC), responsibility for running costs, and also the specifics around any lease / rental agreement reached between the Foundation and club in terms of years. This is where it’s not only relevant to the point raised by SLC, but also the underlining argument that for the club to prosper in the future, they must own their own ground. It’ll be those specific details which will indicate the likelihood of that being a possibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I see we managed to outwit Ricky Waddell's Caledonian Braves by 3 goals to 2. On another note, I am astounded that Duffy's creativity has extended to arranging friendlies with Pat Scullion's East Stirlingshire, Ricky Waddell's Caledonian Braves and Stephen Swift's Broomhill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Worm Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Seeing in the Son’s thread Robert Jones on trial at Alloa? What’s the charge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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