dirty dingus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, BFTD said: They've had some amount of feedback about small businesses, haven't they? It's her "immigrants did everything bad". She also seems to go heavy on the middle class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, BFTD said: They've had some amount of feedback about small businesses, haven't they? It's her "immigrants did everything bad". Small businesses used to be the battle cry of the Republicans even more so than the Democrats. Its part of the fantasy that’s the American dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 ‘I have concepts of a plan’ might be the biggest f**king lie he’s ever told. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmarv Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, carpetmonster said: ‘I have concepts of a plan’ might be the biggest f**king lie he’s ever told. “We will present the plan in two weeks” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, carpetmonster said: ‘I have concepts of a plan’ might be the biggest f**king lie he’s ever told. I love how he seems to think you wait till you become president to actually form your plans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, BFTD said: Astonishing that he still won't admit that he was wrong about having innocent men killed for a crime they didn't commit. He doubled down a few year ago and said even though they had been found innocent they should still be put to death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Famously, Trump had no plan to replace the Affordable Care Act except to repeal it, which is why he was always voted down. He's had eight years to come up with an alternative, and has none. That should tell people everything, but likely won't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Incredible that many Americans think of healthcare as an aspirational aim that should be worked towards, including some who can't afford it themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Good stuff there from Harris. You beat Trump with a populist message. Creating better jobs and reducing goods prices (which she talked about earlier). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) Everyone's leaving to Mexico to be with China, and I'll stop them with the tariffs that I don't understand, and Biden's wife, and it's all crooked, and, and... Edit: he's gradually sounding more and more desperate. The value of preparation maybe ought to be becoming obvious, rather than just groping at spur-of-the-moment fever dreams. No doubt he'll walk off the stage convinced it was the greatest debate performance of all time, so many people are saying, etc. Edited September 11 by BFTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, BFTD said: Incredible that many Americans think of healthcare as an aspirational aim that should be worked towards, including some who can't afford it themselves. They have an incredibly weird view on it. I’ve seen more than a few slag off the NHS and how bad it is, when they don’t seem to recognised that having kids can bankrupt them. I had loads of illnesses and ops in the past 2 years. I worked out that if I was in the US, it would have cost me $60k plus, ongoing medicine costs which would be $561 every month. It’s utterly mad, I didn’t pay a penny on the NHS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) Well that didn’t given Donald and Co the sound bites they wanted, but Harris certainly did quite well. Disappointingly Trump neither stroked out nor exploded on stage, but the overnight “Truths” should be absolutely bonkers. Cotton’s got an uphill task spinning this one. Edited September 11 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Trump waffling off topic shite but he knows his base lap up all his conspiracy nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, TxRover said: Well that didn’t given Donald and Co the sound it’s they wanted, but Harris certainly did quite well. Disappointingly Trump neither stroked out nor exploded on stage, but the overnight “Truths” should be absolutely bonkers. Cotton’s got an uphill task spinning this one. I must be behind here as still got closing statements to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Jambomo said: They have an incredibly weird view on it. I’ve seen more than a few slag off the NHS and how bad it is, when they don’t seem to recognised that having kids can bankrupt them. I had loads of illnesses and ops in the past 2 years. I worked out that if I was in the US, it would have cost me $60k plus, ongoing medicine costs which would be $561 every month. It’s utterly mad, I didn’t pay a penny on the NHS. Aye, I've done that arithmetic too. You'll occasionally get roasters here claiming that they'd be so much better off if healthcare was privatised because their private health insurance doesn't cost them much; they've no idea how much the existence of the NHS keeps their premiums down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, TxRover said: Well that didn’t given Donald and Co the sound bites they wanted, but Harris certainly did quite well. Disappointingly Trump neither stroked out nor exploded on stage, but the overnight “Truths” should be absolutely bonkers. Cotton’s got an uphill task spinning this one. He told her to shut up, though. Libs owned, end of story! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, dirty dingus said: I must be behind here as still got closing statements to come. Nope, I was going off the actions already happening by Trump’s team. They’ve already started spinning what they clearly See as a loss. He’s been suckered into responding to her jabs as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BFTD said: Aye, I've done that arithmetic too. You'll occasionally get roasters here claiming that they'd be so much better off if healthcare was privatised because their private health insurance doesn't cost them much; they've no idea how much the existence of the NHS keeps their premiums down. My premium per year, my payment PLUS what my ex-employer pays as part of my rare retirement health care benefit, is over $20,000 per year. And that’s BEFORE co-pays and co-insurance. Edited September 11 by TxRover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, BFTD said: Aye, I've done that arithmetic too. You'll occasionally get roasters here claiming that they'd be so much better off if healthcare was privatised because their private health insurance doesn't cost them much; they've no idea how much the existence of the NHS keeps their premiums down. That’s assuming you even GET health insurance. I doubt I’d get any anytime soon. Just so bad they seem to think going bankrupt because you get sick is somehow acceptable and just what happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I still can’t get past baby executions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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