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40 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

I reckon the 2002/3 Arsenal team would pump them ragged. 

 Arsenal came second that season with 78 points. They got put out the Champions League at the second group stage, only winning one game.  I think you're maybe applying a bit of nostalgia.

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2 minutes ago, GordonS said:

 Arsenal came second that season with 78 points. They got put out the Champions League at the second group stage, only winning one game.  I think you're maybe applying a bit of nostalgia.

No, I reckon in a single match, team v team, Arsenal would win. 

Man City would win the league of course, but the strength of that Arsenal team would take the game. 

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2 minutes ago, throbber said:

England are 3/1 to win Euros and France 7/2 on William Hill. I don’t think there’s much between England and France but England are far better than Spain,Germany and Portugal imo. There’s a good chance they’ll win the tournament and I am ok with it now.

England are always going to be shorter odds due to home bias, England fans are going to back their own team so drive the odds down. Bookies don't necessarily think that England will win it.

The good news for us is that it keeps prices a bit higher for other teams than they should be though I also think they are in with a chance. 

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1 minute ago, scottsdad said:

No, I reckon in a single match, team v team, Arsenal would win. 

Man City would win the league of course, but the strength of that Arsenal team would take the game. 

I don't think even Arsene Wenger would claim that, but the game's all about opinions Gerry. 

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3 hours ago, eindhovendee said:

England are always going to be shorter odds due to home bias, England fans are going to back their own team so drive the odds down. Bookies don't necessarily think that England will win it.

The good news for us is that it keeps prices a bit higher for other teams than they should be though I also think they are in with a chance. 

I remember getting stupid odds on them not to qualify out of their group at the 2014 World Cup. They were quite heavy odds-on to qualify despite being in a group with Italy and Uruguay (plus Costa Rica who did actually qualify).

This was back when they were really pish as well. Just the effect of everyone having a wee punt on Engerland.

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16 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said:

Why does he wear a cap everywhere? Has his hair transplant regressed that badly that it needs to be covered up in public at all times? 

 

 

Worried in case his progressive fraudulence condition is spotted by potential suitors

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9 hours ago, SH Panda said:

Not really, this exact same chat was coming out when they had a frontline of Carroll, Dafoe and Sturridge.

The CL is clearly the pinnacle of elite football, Saka and Rice have achieved nothing at that level and Foden was benched for the final last year.

Bellingham is doing it this year, but he is with Real Madrid - they are the kings of Europe.

The league itself had one of its worst European performances in living memory.

Squad wise France is where it's at again, they could have named two squads with a good chance of winning the tournament.

England is second tier (an improvement on where they were 10 years ago).

Not so sure about that tbh. They’ve always been a bit over the top with this stuff (but most countries are and whisper it quietly - we are too) but there was a massive amount of negativity towards the England team from their own fans and press during that era.

I don’t count Rice and Saka in this, they’re brilliant players but not amongst the best right now imo. Bellingham and Foden however undeniably are. 

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Someone genuinely thinks that England are far better than Spain,Germany and Portugal?

Well, OK. I strongly disagree but everyone's opinion should be respected.

Harry Kane has missed the two final league games for Bayern Munich with a nasty back injury.

Kane isn't 100% so there's a chance England won't make it out their group, never mind winning Euro 24.

They're missing Maguire, Mings and Shaw, James is short of Match fitness because of injury. Stones hasn't kicked a ball since the 4 May.

Saka got injured by McTominay and won't be 100% Mainoo took a knock on Sunday.

They have major defensive problems. They have no playmaker. That's why Harry Kane drops so deep for England. He's their best passer.

Talking of Kane. For generations they've had a world class taking over from a world class striker (Lineker 》Shearer 》 Owen 》 Rooney 》 Kane). But there's no world class striker going to take the reins from Kane.

England are the World Champions when it comes to the game of self publicists.

England are the only team in the world of sports who can win one trophy in 94 years and be considered a "heavyweight."

But yeah, if people think England are genuinely contenders then fair enough. It's a game of opinions. I respectfully disagree.

They are incredibly overrated. Take out Kane and they're just above average.

Gareth Southgate, for all the abuse and insults he receives, is performing miracles with this England team.

He's created a great team spirit, but he's more a lucky manager than a good one.

I think his luck might run out in Euro 24.

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I want England to fail as much as the next man, but it's only desperation to see it that leads folk to believe they aren't going to be there or thereabouts for what would be a hilariously long overdue tournament win. 

Iv banged this drum for a while, by every metric imaginable, England are sports biggest underachievers. Its gonna happen soon. It might happen more than once. Then after that they will.get their fair share 

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