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The superior quality of the opposition should have no influence on how much effort players put in. I was shocked at the lack of effort tonight. The number of times a Scotland player lost the ball and basically went "oh well" and casually walked away as the Germans broke in the other direction was unbelievable.

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1 hour ago, Kadouken_ said:

There’s definitely an argument there but Clarke won’t don’t it for the simple fact that Gunn’s Scotland career would be killed instantly, never mind just his tournament. 
 

 

Well if the reports are true that he only came on board when he was likely to be no1, then dropping mid tournament would result in toys out of pram. So yes

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7 minutes ago, Stevie Kirk said:

I mean above average players in an international tournament context. No way does Musiala get to stroll about the 6 yard box unmarked against an organised decent defence.

Musiala is one of the most exciting and gifted young players on the planet. That’s not an example of a German player only being “above average”. That’s our defence being distinctly below average. The reality is the likes of Porteous, Hendry and Hanley are nowhere near the elite of international football. Their level is jobbing about the English Championship or maybe battling relegation in the Barclays at a push. Not their fault at all but that, unfortunately, is the best we’ve got to offer right now.

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7 minutes ago, ScottishLoon said:

For anyone that doesn't know Hungary are probably the best coached team in international football and have only lost twice in two years.

One of them being a shite Ireland side 10 days ago fwiw, and their Euro qualifying group was powderpuff

4-0 Scotland, though that might be the bevvy talking 😜

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27 minutes ago, Crùbag said:

No. We're closer to Germany than Gibraltar are to us.

Doubt. The Euros takes nearly half of all competing sides to the final tournament and the quality in the confederation is top-heavy. 

When Germany were a mess not too long ago then sure, but Nagelsmann is an excellent coach who has since picked the right squad for the tournament and team to deliver a bleaching. He's also benefited from a rising tide of domestic talent and Kroos returning for a swansong - they're genuine contenders IMO. 

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What's the script with Rangers fans going on about Steve Clarke having alcohol issues? Is there anything in that or is it just them being weird as f**k as usual?

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1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said:

What's the script with Rangers fans going on about Steve Clarke having alcohol issues? Is there anything in that or is it just them being weird as f**k as usual?

Ask him. 

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1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said:

What's the script with Rangers fans going on about Steve Clarke having alcohol issues? Is there anything in that or is it just them being weird as f**k as usual?

I’ll go for the second option for a fan base who idolises Paul Gascoigne. 

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It's crazy how quick things in football change, best qualifying campaign maybe ever to there now being a realistic chance we don't win any games for the foreseeable with who we also have to play in the nations league coming up.

Proper definition of victims of our own success territory. 

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53 minutes ago, Judy Murray said:

Watching Scotland in major tournaments makes you proud for the 3 minutes before we make a c**t if it then you have to spend weeks contemplating the throbbers who constitute the support, the *** c***s on the TV and then you have to just hope England don’t win the fucker. 
 

it’s a shite state of affairs spud 

Tonight was the worst I can remember ever and I'm getting much older these days. While in the past, the 2nd or at least by the 3rd game there would he a decent performance somewhere. This time, I just can't see it unless Switzerland & Hungary are exceptionally poor.

For the players in the team, how do they turn it around. Quite a task tbh for even the most strong willed person...

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Genuinely think Clarke's time is up if we don't beat either Switzerland or Hungary. We've been absolutely disgraceful at both international tournaments we've qualified for under him. Fair play he got us there but we definitely should be qualifying regardless looking at our squad. 

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11 minutes ago, Moysterclass said:

Genuinely think Clarke's time is up if we don't beat either Switzerland or Hungary. We've been absolutely disgraceful at both international tournaments we've qualified for under him. Fair play he got us there but we definitely should be qualifying regardless looking at our squad. 

I'd still say it's harsh even then, he deserves to at least have the first two nations league games imo.

If the performances haven't improved or we don't get any wins by then it probably has to happen.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Moysterclass said:

Also there are far worse teams than us on paper who can manufacture results out of these supposedly "unwinnable" games against Germany etc: Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Poland. 

Can they beat Spain though!? 😉

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