itzdrk Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 4 hours ago, JS_FFC said: Should be on the first flight home tomorrow and play no further part in the tournament. He’s let us all down. Aye he should have just allowed them to score a goal. You would have started a thread praising him for that no doubt. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedingums Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 5 hours ago, JS_FFC said: Instead he decided to be a complete thug and try to end Gundogan’s career, resulting in a completely deserved red card and us conceding 3 more goals. He’s let the country down and should be excluded from selection for a while imo. It was a shit challenge, but this is soap opera pish. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FK1Bairn Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) It was a horrible tackle and a fully deserved red card but I do think there's no malice in it, he's attempted to block the shot at goal but got it all wrong. That's it. His tournament is over now, there's no chance that's not a 2 game ban Edited June 15 by FK1Bairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammyp Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 He had to make a tackle, not that tackle. He is the only one I know who tackles like that, reckless liability. Anyone else tries to get a toe on the ball or just block the shot. Two footed, studs up is literally the last option in the box. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 I actually like Porteous as a defender and think he is one of our slight better ones but he’s about 90% great defender and 10% mental bam. Sadly yesterday the mental bam showed up. I blame it on him being from Dalkeith tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 To be fair to Porteous it's his first red card since leaving Hibs 2 years ago. And it's not like he's went out to do someone, it's a desperate lunge to save a certain goal. It's always stupid when people start saying he's always been shite and they've never liked him when he's been excellent up until one moment of madness. I don't think anyone would have said he shouldn't start last night and yet all of a sudden he's never been good enough 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, MarkoRaj said: To be fair to Porteous it's his first red card since leaving Hibs 2 years ago. And it's not like he's went out to do someone, it's a desperate lunge to save a certain goal. It's always stupid when people start saying he's always been shite and they've never liked him when he's been excellent up until one moment of madness. I don't think anyone would have said he shouldn't start last night and yet all of a sudden he's never been good enough There’d have been folk who didn’t have Porteous in their preferred XI but no one was aghast at him being selected because they’d seen it work before in big games. Same goes for the Christie over Gilmour thing. Folk just love to play captain hindsight. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadouken_ Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 What the f**k are people talking about saying he had to make that tackle? It was a fucking horror challenge. He’s done it his full career. He clearly went in to do Gundogan which is why as soon as he done it he started rolling kidding on he was injured as well. There’s simply no excusing it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fratelli Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Porteous is a good footballer but temperament has always been an issue. I’ve always been puzzled by folk who go on the defensive whenever anyone dares to suggest this. He batters into challenges at times where he could just take the ball, which looks great when he wins it but ultimately puts himself in danger for no reason. There’s a reason top centre backs hardly clatter people anymore. At first last night I gave him the benefit of the doubt, as it was a last ditch, heat of the moment attempt to prevent a certain goal. After seeing it again it’s fucking brainless. There’s absolutely no need to go in with his left leg like that, he could have blocked the ball without doing it. If it was an opposition player folk would be on here calling them a thug etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Got a bit of sympathy with him. He’s had a split second to react after the rebound from Gunn, Gundogan is stroking it in, and he’s made a desperate, instinctive lunge trying to save a certain goal. He’s made a mess of the lunge, and he quite easily could have broke the guys leg. But that’s what he does and he’s done that his whole career. He regularly makes desperate, rash, dangerous tackles and his career card count shows this. He’s not very good but he’s still amongst our best centre halves. Wouldn’t surprise me if he started against Hungary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, Lex said: But that’s what he does and he’s done that his whole career. He regularly makes desperate, rash, dangerous tackles and his career card count shows this. Regular would be more than once in 2 years imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 I can’t believe folk are defending him. It was an utterly shocking challenge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 It was a bad challenge and an obvious red card. The 'he should be sent home and never play for Scotland again' folk are pathetic losers I'm afraid. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: It was a bad challenge and an obvious red card. The 'he should be sent home and never play for Scotland again' folk are pathetic losers I'm afraid. Not sure anyone said never again but I don’t see why he deserves to play again in this tournament after letting us all down like that -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keptie Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 10 hours ago, JS_FFC said: That doesn’t make it remotely ok. We could have gotten out of there with a 0-2 or maybe even a 1-2 and limited the goal difference advantage. Instead he decided to be a complete thug and try to end Gundogan’s career, resulting in a completely deserved red card and us conceding 3 more goals. He’s let the country down and should be excluded from selection for a while imo. What a ridiculous over reaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 5 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: Not sure anyone said never again but I don’t see why he deserves to play again in this tournament after letting us all down like that Deserve got nothing to do with it. He'll serve a suspension and then be available for selection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: Not sure anyone said never again but I don’t see why he deserves to play again in this tournament after letting us all down like that No need to get too emotional over it. Porteous made a mistake, it happens. Unfortunately it's more likely to happen when you are forced to select from players who can't reach the level needed on a consist basis. That's why Porteous is playing for Watford and not Arsenal. To have a go at the weaker of our players is poor. Same with Gunn, Ralston, Hendry and Hanley. They are all going to make mistakes, that's just life for us as Scotland fans. Expecting as minimum for them to perform at a maximum is unrealistic. Edited June 15 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: Not sure anyone said never again but I don’t see why he deserves to play again in this tournament after letting us all down like that If letting people down is your criteria for excluding players for the rest of the tournament, I can’t wait to hear who’s left in for the starting eleven against Switzerland. Edited June 15 by Mr Heliums 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fratelli Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 8 hours ago, itzdrk said: Aye he should have just allowed them to score a goal. You would have started a thread praising him for that no doubt. There’s a world of difference between letting them score and flying in with both feet off the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Oaft, just seeing the tackle back now - he’ll be very lucky if he gets away with only a one game ban. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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