printer Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 30 minutes ago, Uncle Psychosis said: Genuinely quite impressed with Corsie and Hart. Miles better than the usual suspects. It was good to have a change. Nothing more boring than the usual suspects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Just now, ScottishLoon said: There's a reason it's not happened before you know, 2 points isn't enough and it shouldn't be enough to get through anyway. Oh yeah we need to treat Sunday as a win or bust. Just saying that the set of results needed for 2 points to sneak in is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 38 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I'm quite Hungary right now tbh beep off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Think there is a reasonable case for changing to a back 4 with Tierney out, it gets all our best midfielders into the team and it might help Ralston to play as a RB rather than RWB as well, but also get the argument against that the back 3 is the system the players know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Would be up for going with a back 4 and just playing a centre back, probably Hendry, at right back. Tell him to stay back for the most part, give Robertson the freedom to get forward and the defence just shuffles across to become a 3 to cover him. We get nothing going forward down the right anyway with the current set-up so we're not losing anything in an attacking sense but hopefully allows us to be a bit more solid defensively down that side. It would also give us a bit more flexibility going forward. At the moment the only way I see us scoring is a set-piece or a driving run from Robertson down the left. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 39 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: No they're not. It looks very likely Group B won't have a 3rd placed team that reaches 3 points, which means it only takes 1 of the other 4 groups to have the same scenario and then a Hungary win puts them through. Groups C, D and F all look possible for this to happen. Even if that doesn't transpire, being the first group we won't know by that point so Hungary's only chance is to go for it and get a win, they are just as dangerous as they would have been, if not more so. We can sit back ( that would confuse them ) and hit them on the break ! Just joking ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyX Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 7 minutes ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: No chance do a team go through with 2 points and -4 GD Not likely, but not no chance. Groups B, D, and F could have 3rd place teams on 1 point. 1986 World Cup for example... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishZizou Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 13 minutes ago, RedLichtie86 said: He ran about but offered no out ball. No hold up play. And 1 shot at goal. 9 passes is pathetic. He needs to be more involved, taking in the ball, moving into space to recieve a pass and lay it off. Not standing next to the defender then getting beat as he is left flat footed yet again. If he was one of those players that can do f**k all but out of nowhere can score then things may be ok. But we dont have the luxury of a player that hardly touches the ball or link up with anyone. With our formation, Adams needs to be the number 9 and the winger on either side dependent on which side the ball is on. He needs to relentlessly run the channels on top of being the focal point. He makes the wide runs and occupies defenders to allow for our midfield runners to get into dangerous positions like the goal. His job is to be a facilitator for our biggest asset which is our midfield rather than our number one goal threat. If he could do all of that plus be a major goal scorer then we are talking seriously elite level footballer. I don’t think Shankland is physically capable of doing what Adams did for 10 minutes without breathing out his hole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyX Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 12 minutes ago, ScottishLoon said: There's a reason it's not happened before you know, 2 points isn't enough and it shouldn't be enough to get through anyway. It has happened before. Uruguay 1986 World Cup - 2 points and minus 5 goal difference. Possibly been other examples too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Ralston just isn't good enough on the ball or off the ball. A player so close to the byline has to be good technically and be good on the ball. Ralston has neither ability. The wingback doesn't have to be a fullback. Clarke really should have tried a midfielder at wingback. I have lost all trust in Ralston. In tonight's performance I've lost trust in Hendry, too. The possession was almost 50/50. We had more shots and more touches in their box. We hit the post. Gutted for Tierney. He's by a mile our best centerback. Him being missing is a blow. All is not lost. Hungary are pretty much out, so maybe they might down tools. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Really enjoyed that match and really enjoyed the response that was desperately needed. Theres still issues, and they aren't made any better with KT being out. Unfortunately, it just feel like a fair crack of the whip for this squad even supposing we get through to the knockouts. Such a shame to see so many injuries holding us back. Still really worried about Ralston and Gunn. Some half decent shot stopping from Gunn but his kicking is rancid and his first touch is also awful. He blocks himself out from being able to clear the ball becasue he takes a shite touch. Think its fair enoug Robbo and Clark giving Ralston a bit of praise, but we all know hes just sticking out like a sore thumb as the man to target. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 We sought a reaction and we got it, so that's a big plus. And we got about the Swiss to an extent that never happened against Germany. But facts are chiels that winna ding, and the basic fact is that a point was at best all that we deserved, and I'm not sure how long we can continue to kick fixtures down the road - a win over Hungary will be a huge challenge for a team that offers up opposition chances with alarming regularity. I enjoyed tonight's game as there was at least a sense of balance about it, and for once there was no nasty sting in the tail. But let's keep a sense of perspective, this is a graft over guile Scottish team, and one literally hobbled by injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 minute ago, SlayerX said: Ralston just isn't good enough on the ball or off the ball. A player so close to the byline has to be good technically and be good on the ball. Ralston has neither ability. The wingback doesn't have to be a fullback. Clarke really should have tried a midfielder at wingback. I have lost all trust in Ralston. In tonight's performance I've lost trust in Hendry, too. The possession was almost 50/50. We had more shots and more touches in their box. We hit the post. Gutted for Tierney. He's by a mile our best centerback. Him being missing is a blow. All is not lost. Hungary are pretty much out, so maybe they might down tools. Where are people getting this from? A win and I'd say there is an odds on chance they go through. And even if it ends up not being enough, we are Group A so won't know this until a few days later, so they'll be doing all they can to win and then hope for the best. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Positives - Midfield was so much better today. Gunn looked more assured. Robertson was brilliant Negatives - Tony “fuckin” Ralston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyX Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Just now, Diamonds are Forever said: Where are people getting this from? A win and I'd say there is an odds on chance they go through. And even if it ends up not being enough, we are Group A so won't know this until a few days later, so they'll be doing all they can to win and then hope for the best. Absolutely this. And they could probably use a wee goal difference boost to help. They'll be going for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Much better, though we're still shaky at the back and losing another defender won't help with that. At this rate we'll end up with McTominay at centre back again. The Swiss looked quite down about the whole thing, so they probably don't feel like they acquitted themselves well tonight. We can't say fortune wasn't with us either; we were generally on top but they had the better chances overall. Get this two points chat in the bin; it's possible, but rarely happens with this format, especially since we switched to three points for a win to cut out the risk-aversity and group stage shitfesting. Hungary are not a bad team, nobody here is, but they've been well beaten twice and if we can't manage it, we don't deserve to go through, end of story. It's not going to be easy - this is all or bust for them too - but it's entirely doable and we've got a good chance IF we don't slip back to the standard of recent performances. Hope it goes well and you all have a night to remember, as I'll be fucking working during the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 minutes ago, AndyX said: Absolutely this. And they could probably use a wee goal difference boost to help. They'll be going for it. Have you ever seen Clarke “go for it”? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKTID Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 18 minutes ago, McGlovin' said: Ralston was targeted again, with him being pressed at every opportunity. Gilmour at least often offered him an out ball, similar to how he helped O'Donnell navigate Wembley 3 years ago. Still think there's value in giving McCrorie a shot against Hungary, bu that'd be a big call. Difference was O’Donnell was superb against England. ralston is in a weird almost unenviable situation, he wouldn’t have been near the squad if it wasn’t for the injuries to hickey and patterson. he had a purple patch which got him in the squad previously which puts him ahead of mccrorie. makes sense to bring a player who’s played with the squad before. he was blowing at the end tho so Clarke might change it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Calder Lion Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, ManBearPig said: Clarke celebrating that. Get tae f**k. Agree, fistpumping a draw that could have been a win. Shit mentality. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi1977 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 It was better tonight. It wasn't great, but it was better. McTominay was excellent today... defending solidly, being a nuisance in there box and essentially marking Xhaka out the game. McGinn seemed to be pushed just a bit too far forward, which almost took him out the game, but you know what you get from him. The 2 of them being closer to Adams allowed him to actually look a part of the game this time too. Still a bit toothless, but managed to put himself about more. Gutted with the Tierney injury. Against a side like Hungary where we have to win, that's a massive attacking option gone with his overlaps. Could be a massive miss at both ends of the park. At least it now feels like the team have turned up for the tournament! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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