H_B Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Freud Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Oh dear - Pink Floyd isn't going to like that. Are you REALLY trying to point score on this? Beyond pathos. I really hope nothing like this ever happens to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Yes. Playing the devils advocate here questions is........ What would most of us done in his situation? Push comes to shove I would have done the same as a person can only take so much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted May 9, 2007 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 'Course she did man, she lived her life by the book. And you, do you live your life by the book too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 What would most of us done in his situation? Not what he did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Guy was called Tony Martinhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jht.../20/nmar20.html Do you think it was right he was sent to jail? What in the name of f**k has Tony Martin's case got to do with this thread? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamus Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 What in the name of f**k has Tony Martin's case got to do with this thread? I think he is trying to deflect his original point because he has realised he has been talking nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 What in the name of f**k has Tony Martin's case got to do with this thread? He commited a crime and was sent to jail but many people felt it should never have went to court on compassionate grounds. Where do you draw the line? Understand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I think he is trying to deflect his original point because he has realised he has been talking nonsense. Not at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 He commited a crime and was sent to jail but many people felt it should never have went to court on compassionate grounds. Where do you draw the line?Understand I think I could quite happily draw a line between shooting people and leaving kids unattended Understand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBud Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 He commited a crime and was sent to jail but many people felt it should never have went to court on compassionate grounds. Where do you draw the line?Understand He shot someone in the back, as they ran away. Hardly the same as parents going for a meal, and leaving their daughter sleeping in their apartment a yards away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Both are incidents where people felt compassion for them and felt the law shouldnt apply to them. Totally different in one sense but in another very similar with regards that people felt the law shouldnt apply to them. If we start disregarding the law (I sympathised with what he had done in some respects as who know's what we would do if push came to shove) but the law is the law and the day we start making the law more about emotion than reason and letting people off for neglecting kids and shooting people what next? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) If we start disregarding the law (I sympathised with what he had done in some respects as who know's what we would do if push came to shove) but the law is the law and the day we start making the law more about emotion than reason and letting people off for neglecting kids and shooting people what next? let me ask you a couple of questions : A woman was near death from a unique kind of cancer. There is a drug that might save her. The drug costs $4,000 per dosage. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money and tried every legal means, but he could only get together about $2,000. He asked the doctor scientist who discovered the drug for a discount or let him pay later. But the doctor scientist refused. Should Heinz break into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not? Edited May 9, 2007 by Ned Nederlander 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 let me ask you a couple of questions :A woman was near death from a unique kind of cancer. There is a drug that might save her. The drug costs $4,000 per dosage. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money and tried every legal means, but he could only get together about $2,000. He asked the doctor scientist who discovered the drug for a discount or let him pay later. But the doctor scientist refused. Should Heinz break into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not? Legally it's wrong but morally it's right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Legally it's wrong but morally it's right. Heinz broke into the laboratory and stole the drug. The next day, the newspapers reported the break-in and theft. Brown, a police officer and a friend of Heinz remembered seeing Heinz last evening, behaving suspiciously near the laboratory. Later that night, he saw Heinz running away from the laboratory. Should Brown report what he saw? Why or why not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Heinz broke into the laboratory and stole the drug. The next day, the newspapers reported the break-in and theft. Brown, a police officer and a friend of Heinz remembered seeing Heinz last evening, behaving suspiciously near the laboratory. Later that night, he saw Heinz running away from the laboratory.Should Brown report what he saw? Why or why not? I know what you are getting at! If it was me I wouldn't as I know it was a one off and they wouldn't do it again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 He commited a crime and was sent to jail but many people felt it should never have went to court on compassionate grounds. Where do you draw the line?Understand I understand - however, I would argue that "the line" comes a substantial way before shooting a man in the back from 20 yards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetooner Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I know what you are getting at! If it was me I wouldn't as I know it was a one off and they wouldn't do it again. In this case do you know if it was a one off with the parents? and do you really think they are going to do it again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_Wee Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Could someone please provide a link to this story. I haven't heard about it. Cheers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford-Rover Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Could someone please provide a link to this story. I haven't heard about it. Cheers. Where have you been for the past few days http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicest...ire/6623127.stm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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