Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 World's gone mad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Wow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just watched it. Amazing. Never heard of this guy Munch before. Fair play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Shows how much everyone loves Lewis when thr locals are cheering for a German. Joking aside Munch was fantastic top quality finishing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Aye, some brilliant darts from Munch last night.He got to the last 32 a few years ago but done relatively bugger all on the tour since.Would love to see more of him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) As said a few pages back, the standard of darts, even in prelims has improved massively in the last few years. There are now literally dozens of guys in the PDC who could walk into the BDO and be top dog. Look at guys like Bunting, Winstanley and Kist who have been lost in the mix coming back the way. Edited December 20, 2017 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, djchapsticks said: As said a few pages back, the standard of darts, even in prelims has improved massively in the last few years. There are now literally dozens of guys in the PDC who could walk into the BDO and be top dog. Look at guys like Bunting, Winstanley and Kist who have been lost in the mix coming back the way. Aye we get it you think the BDO is shite which for a large part is true but here is a wee shocking fact for you MVG, Anderson, Gurney, Suljovic, Whitlock, Chisnal, Van De Pas, White, RVB, Norris, Klaasen and Bunting. So 12 of the top 20 in the PDC before the worlds have infact moved from the BDO in the last 10 years. So given time it shows they can improve and it can be done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, diamond_for_life said: Aye we get it you think the BDO is shite which for a large part is true but here is a wee shocking fact for you MVG, Anderson, Gurney, Suljovic, Whitlock, Chisnal, Van De Pas, White, RVB, Norris, Klaasen and Bunting. So 12 of the top 20 in the PDC before the worlds have infact moved from the BDO in the last 10 years. So given time it shows they can improve and it can be done. Congratulations on completely missing the point. What I was saying is that there are guys in the PDC who may never even win a tour event but are raising the standard to such a high level in the last 2 or 3 years that they'd walk across to the BDO and be right up there. If you're throwing a sub 97 average these days, you're not going to win too many in the big tournaments. None of your stat shocks me. I know exactly who came from the BDO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_for_life Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Congratulations on completely missing the point. What I was saying is that there are guys in the PDC who may never even win a tour event but are raising the standard to such a high level in the last 2 or 3 years that they'd walk across to the BDO and be right up there. If you're throwing a sub 97 average these days, you're not going to win too many in the big tournaments. None of your stat shocks me. I know exactly who came from the BDO. bah humbug Im not trying to get into a tit for tat but the preliminary averages this year have been by the larger part shite. Asada - 86 and won Dolan - 92 and won (hardly a prelim standard player) Jeff Smith - 95 and won (BDO finalist 2016) Jamie Lewis - 93 and won (PDC ranked 43) Cody Harris - 84 and won Paul Lim - 86 and won Kevin Munch - 84 and won So the only players to hit 90 or above are the PDC tour car holders in the top 50 and 2016’s BDO runner up. BDO worlds last year Final averages 95 and 94 Semi Final averages 96, 96, 95 and 94 Waites lost in the Quarter final with a 94 average. A lot of it is opinions too mate and I wasn’t trying to sound like an arse earlier but to me the PDC has a myth about the prelims being great. They are average at best. The BDO outside the top what 8 are usually shite but in the PDC if you watch the Euro Tours and Players Championship events. Outside meeting a handful of players a solid 95 average can (not always) get you far in tournaments 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkneil Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, diamond_for_life said: bah humbug Im not trying to get into a tit for tat but the preliminary averages this year have been by the larger part shite. Asada - 86 and won - Then averaged 92 but lost Dolan - 92 and won (hardly a prelim standard player) - Then averaged 94.83 in the first round but lost Jeff Smith - 95 and won (BDO finalist 2016) - The BDO 2016 finalist then went on to average 78 losing to Anderson Jamie Lewis - 93 and won (PDC ranked 43) - Then averaged 99 in the first round (PDC ranked 43) Cody Harris - 84 and won - Similar performance in the first round Paul Lim - 86 and won - Then averaged 96 in the first round Kevin Munch - 84 and won - Then 93.48 in the first round, knocking out a 2-time world champ So the only players to hit 90 or above are the PDC tour car holders in the top 50 and 2016’s BDO runner up. BDO worlds last year Final averages 95 and 94 Semi Final averages 96, 96, 95 and 94 Waites lost in the Quarter final with a 94 average. A lot of it is opinions too mate and I wasn’t trying to sound like an arse earlier but to me the PDC has a myth about the prelims being great. They are average at best. The BDO outside the top what 8 are usually shite but in the PDC if you watch the Euro Tours and Players Championship events. Outside meeting a handful of players a solid 95 average can (not always) get you far in tournaments See above the averages of those prelim players later in the night in the first round. By and large they improved their averages, Among those prelim players, their average average is 91 Last year's BDO 1st round average avergae was 85.12. The PDC prelim players' 1st round average averages are actually slightly higher than the BDO's quarter finalists' average average. Also, taking stats out of it. When 3 of the 7 prelim round winners then go on to win the 1st round matches, knocking out Adrian Lewis & Mark Webster in the process you can't deny that the standard is improving massively. The only stuff that is 'larger part shite' are your posts on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Didn’t realise that Adrian Lewis will be outside the top 16 once this tourney is over. Oaft!Big fight on his hands to qualify for most of the majors next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 146 out shot to win it. Naw bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Michael Smith infuriates me. He's the most effortless, phenomenal player when things go right and an absolute haddie a visit later. I get he's fast as f**k but he has to just take a second at times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Both Whitlock and Schindler stuck in the mad house. It's laughably shite. Love it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Bernie Army! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Justin Pipe getting it tight from Sky Sports after the coughing incident last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Alcinas has been off the boil for a good while so I'm surprised that the got the job done against Reyes. Another seed goes out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I disliked this guy Richardson as soon as that walk on music kicked in. p***k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysart Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Would be interesting to see if Richardson till used that song if he ever qualified for a tournament in Scotland. Hopefully Huybrechts will thrash him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Richardson is wiping the floor with Huybrechts so far. Reminds me of how he played against Barney a few years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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