printer Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 And doesn't take any shit, either. Mind you, I expected Barclay and the locks to put a bit of stick about and they didn't really. The Argentinians are so physical though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Barclay, Gray and Gilchrist did a huge amount of work at the breakdown and in the narrow channels around the ruck. They maybe weren't as high profile as they normally are, but without doubt the helped lay the platform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Just watched the last 10 minutes of Ireland/NZ. Both teams look utterly knackered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Job done. Huw Jones looks like he can be quite a player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy Blonde Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Japan pushed Wales all the way and Italy got their first every victory over the Boks, so grinding out a victory against the Pumas is a very good result in retrospect going forward towards the 6N. England are still the team to beat and look unstoppable atm. Edited November 20, 2016 by Leggy Blonde 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 For those more in the know about rugby, is there a difference in emphasis from referees from the two hemispheres (or individual leagues) or are they fairly consistent? It is the same as football. The refs from south let more offsides as they play a more running game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Leggy Blonde said: Japan pushed Wales all the way and Italy got their first every victory over the Boks, so grinding out a victory against the Pumas is a very good result in retrospect going forward towards the 6N. England are still the team to beat and look unstoppable atm. I don't know. They just shipped three tries to a team who look like they just met last week. We needed that win. We got dragged into a shitfest and came out the other end. That is unlike us, and very important. Thought Laidlaw was fantastic and Wilson was brilliant when he came on. He's so much better than the Edinburgh boys, and should be one of the first names on the teamsheet next week. Really need Nel back for the 6n though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on shire Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 6 hours ago, jmothecat said: For those more in the know about rugby, is there a difference in emphasis from referees from the two hemispheres (or individual leagues) or are they fairly consistent? They say the south offer the attacking side more whereas the north prefer defence. I don't buy it personally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on shire Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 6 hours ago, jmothecat said: 5 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Why so close? Argentina are world cup semi-finalists and beat Ireland to get there. In autumn 2012 they beat Wales and made them work last week. They've come on leaps and bounds in the Rugby Championship by making the All Blacks work to beat them, beating Oz and winning IN SA. A lot of the players are together in the new Beunos Aires Jaguars Super Rugby team. The game wasn't crap like some are suggesting imo. I thought that handling errors were made coz of the wet ball and surface and Argentina, knowing they were leg weary, decided that they wanted an arm wrestle. We showed that we can play poorly but still compete to the bitter end in tight games and even snatch a win, so in a way we built on the Oz game. Vern Cotter needed time to fix the devastation left by Hurricane Andy Robinson (recently sacked by Bristol) and is now building very good foundations. Toony will hopefully hit the ground running and build on this. Scottish rugby (the national team at least) heading in the right direction in great shape. Here's hoping it continues. Before we can relax for a few months, we have another potential arm wrestle in Killie vs Georgia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Watched the last 25 minutes of Georgia vs Samoa and the defence from Georgia was immense, they battered Samoa. However if Scotland get any ball they will run rings round the Georgian backs. Georgia are still a couple of years away from being a top team as although they were winning every time they got the ball back in their own half they just end booted it as far down the pitch as they could.To be fair was very reminiscent of the old Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Sounds like a decent game to be fair, unfortunately missed it as I was attending St. Mirren's most recent calamity. How was Fraser Brown?Will probably give the whole 80 a watch as I hate using highlights to judge an entire performance (not that anyone is awaiting my judgement with great anticipation, of course!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Brown was good, but there will still be question marks over his throwing under pressure. Thought Ford was decent when he came on the second time (came on for blood earlier) - for once he actually tried to make an impact rather than just being a body on the pitch. There is a decent player there, he has just become really lazy when it seemed he had no real competition for his place. I'd start with Brown next week and hope Ford can have a similar impact off the bench again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Brown was good, but there will still be question marks over his throwing under pressure. Thought Ford was decent when he came on the second time (came on for blood earlier) - for once he actually tried to make an impact rather than just being a body on the pitch. There is a decent player there, he has just become really lazy when it seemed he had no real competition for his place. I'd start with Brown next week and hope Ford can have a similar impact off the bench again. 'Just being a body on the pitch' is probably the most apt description of Ford's last 50 caps or so, agree that competition for his spot will hopefully put a rocket up his rather sizeable backside 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Decided to give the League game a go, what an eye-bleedingly awful non-event. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 15 hours ago, come on shire said: Argentina are world cup semi-finalists and beat Ireland to get there. In autumn 2012 they beat Wales and made them work last week. They've come on leaps and bounds in the Rugby Championship by making the All Blacks work to beat them, beating Oz and winning IN SA. A lot of the players are together in the new Beunos Aires Jaguars Super Rugby team. The game wasn't crap like some are suggesting imo. I thought that handling errors were made coz of the wet ball and surface and Argentina, knowing they were leg weary, decided that they wanted an arm wrestle. We showed that we can play poorly but still compete to the bitter end in tight games and even snatch a win, so in a way we built on the Oz game. Vern Cotter needed time to fix the devastation left by Hurricane Andy Robinson (recently sacked by Bristol) and is now building very good foundations. Toony will hopefully hit the ground running and build on this. Scottish rugby (the national team at least) heading in the right direction in great shape. Here's hoping it continues. Before we can relax for a few months, we have another potential arm wrestle in Killie vs Georgia. I posted that after the attempted drop goal. I'm still not sure why he didn't give himself a few more yards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Decided to give the League game a go, what an eye-bleedingly awful non-event. I suppose that's what happens in an international tournament where only one and a half countries take it seriously.I always struggle to understand why league and union haven't reunited. Obviously not going to happen these days but it doesn't really seem sensible that there are two major sports which are so similar but delegate from one another. All over something as insignificant as professionalism. The atmosphere at Super League games is great, but it's hard to deny its the lesser of the two codes when it comes to enjoyment and variety. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 59 minutes ago, jmothecat said: I suppose that's what happens in an international tournament where only one and a half countries take it seriously. I always struggle to understand why league and union haven't reunited. Obviously not going to happen these days but it doesn't really seem sensible that there are two major sports which are so similar but delegate from one another. All over something as insignificant as professionalism. The atmosphere at Super League games is great, but it's hard to deny its the lesser of the two codes when it comes to enjoyment and variety. The other issue with league is that the NRL is almost a completely different game to Super League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The other issue with league is that the NRL is almost a completely different game to Super League. In what way? (I've never watched any NRL). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just now, jmothecat said: In what way? (I've never watched any NRL). Faster, significantly more skillful, and the overall standard is far higher. If you think back to the whole North-South argument in Union a few years back, the gap in RL is even wider. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Faster, significantly more skillful, and the overall standard is far higher. If you think back to the whole North-South argument in Union a few years back, the gap in RL is even wider. I wonder why. I spent a month in Australia a few years back, and whilst it was cricket season (hence why I was there) everyone seemed to like Aussie Rules and dismissed rugby. Always thought it was impressive they have such good rugby teams (both codes) despite the fact it seemed to be considerably less popular than AFL or cricket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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