THE KING Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 At least 90% of your posts on this site concern "the Jews" or "the Zionists". The blatant bigotry that got your Captain Kirk alias banned being a particular highlight. you drunk? Ive never started a topic that has any relation to jews or Israel?http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=forums&mid=33652&sid=63703cedb95d06b68e4a3802da5afe66&search_app_filters[forums][searchInKey]=&userMode=title ...Most of my post are in thd bralt and im not even one of the top posters in any threads about israel, jews or Zionists? ! So did you just pull 90% out of your bigoted arse or back it up . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Im new to this thread. Has anyone mentioned Glasgow City Council planning to fly the Palistinian flag from the city chambers? Bizzare!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Im new to this thread. Has anyone mentioned Glasgow City Council planning to fly the Palistinian flag from the city chambers? Bizzare!! Yeah. The seethe from Sevco fans over it is hilarious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 And im not aware of any other mentioned countries banning immigrants from Arab countries, Like Israel does? What about Saudi Arabia then? No non muslims are allowed citizenship, and are only allowed to enter the country to work. Both Christians and Shia muslims are heavily discriminated against with public worship and religious items such as Shia texts and Christian bibles and crucifixes banned. In one case a Shia was beheaded for refusing to convert to Sunni. Arab Christians and Shia muslims are fleeing Arab countries en masse, including Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Gaza and the West Bank due to religious persecution. The majority of those fleeing persecution are not being welcomed with open arms by other Arab countries. As for the Jews, around 900,000 resided in Arab countries in 1948. This dropped to around 100,000 by the early 70's and is down to around 30,000 today. If you're are a non Sunni muslim Arab and need to emigrate to another Arab country due to persecution as a Shia muslim, Christian, Jew or even a Buddhist, I wouldn't fancy your chances. So now you know. It's happening on all sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 yes thats why I called them terrorists? You claimed Israel were "worse" because of the civilian deaths. Why is this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 You claimed Israel were "worse" because of the civilian deaths. Why is this? because the incredible number of civilians israel has killed ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 What about Saudi Arabia then? No non muslims are allowed citizenship, and are only allowed to enter the country to work. Both Christians and Shia muslims are heavily discriminated against with public worship and religious items such as Shia texts and Christian bibles and crucifixes banned. In one case a Shia was beheaded for refusing to convert to Sunni. Arab Christians and Shia muslims are fleeing Arab countries en masse, including Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Gaza and the West Bank due to religious persecution. The majority of those fleeing persecution are not being welcomed with open arms by other Arab countries. As for the Jews, around 900,000 resided in Arab countries in 1948. This dropped to around 100,000 by the early 70's and is down to around 30,000 today. If you're are a non Sunni muslim Arab and need to emigrate to another Arab country due to persecution as a Shia muslim, Christian, Jew or even a Buddhist, I wouldn't fancy your chances. So now you know. It's happening on all sides. My reply refered the previously mentioned states by another poster , none of which were Arab countries, so your point is invalid. Although I agree with you Israel is just a bigoted fuked up racist sectarian dump like all other middle eastern countries. and thats my point , its not a civilised western democracy it pretends to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Zionism is not a synonym for Judaism. A zionist is a person who believes the Jewish people have the right to their own homeland. If someone is anti-Zionist it means they believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist as a nation for the Jewish people. I think that's anti-semitic. Someone who is anti-Israel may hate Israel or disagree with its policies in some way but not that doesn't mean they hate Jewish people. Zionism is the desire to have a Jewish state, not specifically one based around some lose idea of 'homeland' (if Israel is the Jewish homeland it could equally be argued to be the homeland of Christianity or Islam, we can't exactly have the 2 billion in that area. Disagreeing with the idea of a Jewish state, or Israel existing as a state for the Jewish people isn't anti-Semitic. And that should be clear to anyone who understands logic. One religion states are a bad idea, a really bad idea. Anti-Semites are most likely anti-zionists but that doesn't mean anti-zionists are anti-Semites. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 If someone is anti-Zionist it means they believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist as a nation for the Jewish people. I think that's anti-semitic. Seems you're on your own with this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 You claimed Israel were "worse" because of the civilian deaths. Why is this? because the incredible number of civilians israel has killed ? Nice logic. If a murderer kills 10 people, then he is a better person than the murderer who kills 20? I think the majority of us (obviously excluding you) would deem them both to be scum. How far do you go with this logic? Is Pete Townsend a nicer pedophile than Gary Glitter because he only got a caution and Glitter got a conviction? Christ on a bike. and thats my point , its not a civilised western democracy it pretends to be. Can't recall Israel ever claiming to be a "civilized western democracy" any more that the government of Gaza, who incidentally came to power by murdering the opposition Fatah party members. But feel free to prove your "point" by posting where Israel claimed this. Have to say, it's beyond my understanding why football supporters in Scotland with no ties to either Gaza or Israel feel the need to wave the flags of governments who condone the murder of unarmed civilians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Nice logic. If a murderer kills 10 people, then he is a better person than the murderer who kills 20? I think the majority of us (obviously excluding you) would deem them both to be scum. How far do you go with this logic? Is Pete Townsend a nicer pedophile than Gary Glitter because he only got a caution and Glitter got a conviction? Christ on a bike. I am happy to say if one person kills more than another then they are a worse person, similarly if one person commits a minor crime in one category it doesn't make them as bad as someone who commits a more severe crime in the same category. I would say that's perfectly normal reaction, you know unless your a little simple and unable to separate crimes or have no concept of scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I am happy to say if one person kills more than another then they are a worse person, similarly if one person commits a minor crime in one category it doesn't make them as bad as someone who commits a more severe crime in the same category. I would say that's perfectly normal reaction, you know unless your a little simple and unable to separate crimes or have no concept of scale. It's your choice, and indeed your inalienable right, to separate pedophiles or murderers into nice or nasty categories if you believe that's perfectly normal. It's also my right to believe they're as bad as each other and anything otherwise would make me an apologist for mass murder or child abuse. Hope that's simple enough for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 It's your choice, and indeed your inalienable right, to separate pedophiles or murderers into nice or nasty categories if you believe that's perfectly normal. It's also my right to believe they're as bad as each other and anything otherwise would make me an apologist for mass murder or child abuse. Hope that's simple enough for you. So watching underage porn is as bad as buggering an eight year old? And killing one person in a rage is as bad as massacring a village? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So watching underage porn is as bad as buggering an eight year old? And killing one person in a rage is as bad as massacring a village? As I've said it's your right to believe kiddy porn or murder isn't so bad. If you're happy with it, then it's your choice. No arguments here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 As I've said it's your right to believe kiddy porn or murder isn't so bad. If you're happy with it, then it's your choice. No arguments here. Your world is nice and simple. It suits you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So watching underage porn is as bad as buggering an eight year old? And killing one person in a rage is as bad as massacring a village? And doing 71 on the motorway is as bad as driving 100mph through a built up area whilst wasted. Both driving offences after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So watching underage porn is as bad as buggering an eight year old? That's two different offences champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodmoorhill Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Your world is nice and simple. It suits you. Your right. Mass murder = wrong. Child abuse = wrong. I would lock them all up and throw away the key. However, it's my opinion, and I'm not really going to be convinced that either act is acceptable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 And doing 71 on the motorway is as bad as driving 100mph through a built up area whilst wasted. Both driving offences after all. That's two different offences champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 That's two different offences champ. He was claiming Pete Townsend's offences were as bad as Gary Glitter's. Wooden spoon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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