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7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Decent chance Bair hits 20 now, seeing as he's getting a hat trick on the final day.
I like your tactical approach of being confirmed in the playoff after 37 games so he's not the one who sends you there!
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1 hour ago, ropy said:
I shouted for the penalty, it was right in front of me, but you do don’t you. When I sat down I thought, nah his hand was by his side, it did block the cross though. Couldn’t tell you what happened at the disallowed goal but I saw the flag go up as soon as it went in.
2nd and 3rd goals were excellent.
I did wonder if Casey would get pulled up for tapping the ankles of the Livi boy but I wasn’t sure why Casey went down in the first place, was he fouled?
Strange game, it’s the end of the season isn’t it.
Thought our penalty was ridiculous even by current standards.
Surprised their 'goal' even got that far, it looked a blatant foul.
I'd basically given up watching by the end but I think Casey was fouled first.
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16 minutes ago, 'WellDel said:
I thought Nicholson was very decent overall today, always making space and looking for the ball, a few really good penetrating runs and obviously that complete thunderb*****d of a goal. I'd definitely give him a run for the last few games to see how he goes. Wee Georgie was great again and got a few great balls in towards Bair, would say it's unlikely, but I'd love to see him back again next season as he is becoming more confident and improving with each passing week.
I've always been pro keeping Nicholson but must admit my conviction was beginning to waver. He looked excellent today though.
I'd love to keep Gent but I don't see it happening. I know a couple of Blackburn fans and they say he's not even been on the radar of the first team but given the rarity and value of his main attribute, they'll surely want a good look at him over summer. And even if he goes out on loan again, we can't be waiting to sort our lwb till late in August when they finally make their mind up.
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That was lovely boys, see you next year!
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Well this has been very pleasant. The sort of ideal day post split.
Thought we played some tidy stuff and never looked like conceding until we did. As we do.
Bizarre we didn't give Ross and Ferrie a run I thought.
Commiserations to Livingston going down but clearly it's been coming for a while.
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32 minutes ago, Phillips455 said:
From what I've heard, we have signed up two players on pre contracts already.
Not including the Livi guy we've been rumoured before.
Also Paul mcginn is waiting to sign as he is looking at all other options. Since he's 34, this will most likely be his last big move so he will be waiting for anything initially. Good luck to him but hopefully we either sign him on for another season or he leaves early so we focus on a replacement.
"Big" is very generous there!
And aye, no harm to him but no hanging around.
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Strange one for us as a win would mean we're still in with a chance of an ok-ish season, a loss means we've the worst squad in a decade and a disgrace of a manager who should be sacked immediately.
I guess Livingston having to win will make it a fairly open game. I think we'll edge it 2-1 but would take a Livingston, Hibs, Aberdeen treble if offered.
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20 minutes ago, Vietnam91 said:
Said a few pages back, I'll be interested to see if he's as ruthless with his own duds he actively sought to bring to the club as he has been with previous managers duds.
He ditched Wilkinson, didn't let Souare hang around, held his hands up on Obika and tried to get rid of Shaw.
There's nothing to suggest an arrogance in holding onto his own signings is on his flaw list.
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19 minutes ago, capt_oats said:
Admittedly I haven't watched the whole 17 min presser but I actually don't think his point about potentially having to coach players differently is that ridiculous. If we're bringing VAR into the equation and having to consider that a coming together may be interpreted as a red card on review then you're probably asking players to change how they approach the game - basically rather than commit they're being asked to pull out of challenges they'd otherwise have made instinctively.
I think his point is entirely fair in theory but in practice how often will it matter... essentially you're telling players to be extra careful when off balance because the apportioning of blame has changed. Which is sensible enough as a two line comment in the dressing room, allowing a newspaper headline to be made out of it was rather unnecessary.
There have been god knows how many wrong and/or stupid decisions this year, we said our bit after the game and he'd have been better blocking with a straight bat and moving on to this week imho.
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9 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:
The problem would be if we were to get into debt and selling fir park and moving to a much lesser stadium as a solution.
There is a history of teams moving from the centre of town out to the outskirts. It happened with Falkirk, St Mirren, Inverness, St Johnstone.
I don't think there is some mastermind plan to sell up Fir Park but I think the danger is there none the less.
We're perfectly open that we see our future in Ravenscraig which most fans seem to understand tbf.
Whether or not there's extra risk with an outsider doing it... probably?
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4 minutes ago, Swello said:
One thing I've always been sceptical about (more widely, not just us) - if buying and selling land for profit was your business plan, why in the name of f**k would you complicate your life by putting a top flight football club in the middle of your deal? There are lots of pieces of land about, and most of them don't come with a bunch of rabid lunatics opposing your every move and all the negative publicity and hassle that goes with it. If you wanted to make a return on land development, it would be one of the very worst ways to go about it.
I'm also sceptical about handing over the keys to FP to EB or anyone else but this is a good point and it's also a massive complication in what our, or any club, is worth. Yes, you can write down X million value for the ground on your balance sheet but someone will only buy it if they know they can build on it - and the prospect of turning McDiarmid, Fir Park or any other stadium into flats or a supermarket against the wishes of the fans because a foreign owner is going rogue is, though not impossible, realistically pretty remote.
The bigger danger of any investor is that they get fed up of their toy, neglect it and start draining it of cash... going totally bust is unlikely but it'll still be incredibly miserable if it goes wrong.
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1 hour ago, Doctor Manhattan said:
Wasn't the official (ludicrous) assertion that ours was chalked off because of a deliberate handball by Bair?
If I remember correctly the County one was deemed accidental because he mis-controlled it so it couldn't be deliberate. Bair was 'deliberate' as it was a first contact.
Could be bollocks mind.
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18 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
I like Vale and in an ideal world I don't think that'd be sending off but it's a really weird hill to die on. Our seasons over and Vale probably won't be here next season, just give Moses a start?
Would definitely like to see that, I think we should be a bit bolder - at least sometimes - with a 3-5-2. Vale, whether by accident or design, ends up so deep we're close to the legendary central six again.
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1 hour ago, Archie McSquackle said:
They should have a funniest goal conceded award, I'm sure we'd feature in that.
You could have a St Johnstone sweep with two free kicks bobbling around before being sclaffed in as runners-up behind Kelly soaring out to miss the ball completely for it to hit Bevis and roll in.
Actually Kelly could have his own section devoted entirely to corners.
I don't think it's unreasonable that we concede more this season - weaker wing backs or midfield, the middle of defence is under more pressure, Butcher never recovered etc. Annoying or not, there's a logical explanation.
The total collapse from set pieces on the other hand is a different matter. You can literally wander into position and do the same thing you've practiced five days a week before. But no, free kicks, corners, shys (theirs), shys (ours)...for professional players and coaches it should be an embarrassment.
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8 hours ago, MurrayWell said:
Fair play to Mandron, I must admit I didn't see a player there for us but seems to really fit that Robinson system and, by all accounts, is having a great season (haven't really seen much of him, games against us aside).
Absolutely, he's done brilliantly (although as an odd quirk I don't think he's played well against us yet).
Presumably it's a sliding doors moment for Bair too in that if we'd signed strikers who could actually stand, he would have had much less game time from being fourth-choice pick.
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5 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:
I mean that's what Olusanya did for St. Mirren on Saturday and Butland got booked, so...maybe?!
I find it very amusing that the Rangers fans who wanted Casey red carded are suddenly adamant this is fine. I suppose being correct 50% of the time isn't bad!
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8 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:
We'll still have Casey and Blaney, too, so I guess if we move SOD and retain McGinn we need a +1 to cover but that would be enough at CB I reckon. We'll then need at least what, three wing backs? Hopefully one of the younger crop of players comes in to stake a claim to reduce the need to sign another.
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Edit: what's everyone's expectations on Slattery? I wonder if we'll offer him terms for a year with an option the club controls; can get him fit again and hopefully into the shop window. Equally wouldn't be surprised if he ends up back in England on a free.
I wonder if we might try to get away with two wing-backs coming in...a risk but we obviously can't cover everything the way we'd like.
I expected Slattery to leave but could imagine another year (or even two) now suits both parties after his injury...I know pros recover from cruciates incredibly quickly these days but the middle of coming back seems an odd time to make yourself unemployed.
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56 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
I'd rather keep Bevis than SOD but I feel it'll end up the other way round
43 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said:Aye, was wondering this myself. I think SOD is perfectly fine as an option for us, but can see him moving into the back three and playing on the right of it to support whoever we end up with at RWB.
Ideally keep Bevis and just tell him to launch the ball to f**k as the middle CB of the three to minimise his potential to pass the ball to the opposition.
I think that's where we'll end up using SOD, if he stays, and I think it's fair enough really...if we're playing 3-5-2 you need at least two of your back three to be comfortable on the ball and get involved when we have possession or are attacking. And simply put, at our level they're much harder to find than guys who can head it a lot...so you keep SOD and McGinn, sign the Livingston guy as cheaper back up and use the savings plus Butcher's salary on a leader of men for the central role. That covers the back three and offers emergency cover for the wing-backs we'll no doubt recruit on loan.
Easy in theory...
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1 hour ago, Busta Nut said:
I know it's not a "source" but I kinda like Bev. I'd be sad to see him up here with some other mob.
(also cos we'd launch the ball at his head for 90mins and he'd be motm)It'd be a shame because he's likeable and has certainly contributed but ultimately he's now played for us under four managers and has never shaken off being a liability. We clearly can't go into next season with the same pool of defenders and if he's one who goes, fair enough.
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4 hours ago, Busta Nut said:
What does it take for Motherwell to be dragged in. I don't think we've another win in us.
An Aberdeen and Hibs double next week and we're safe in practice (not officially but with goal difference we'd be fine).
I think we'll win next week but even if not we're not going to lose the next four... surely!
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1 hour ago, well fan for life said:
I'm not sure you can say you won the ball cleanly when you follow through and stud the opposition player in the bollocks. He's caught the ball with his knee as he's hammered straight through the tackle without looking.
Probably a booking about 10 years ago. Nailed on red nowadays.
But he did win the ball cleanly, he clearly played it first right out the middle of his boot. He wasn't wild, he wasn't out of control, he wasn't high. The follow through was a perfectly natural continuation of him swinging his leg, it's ridiculous to ask players to stop their foot upon contact with the ball incase someone arrives late and runs into them.
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8 hours ago, well fan for life said:
Dunno why we were all making a fuss about that red card because it's an absolute howler of a challenge. Not malicious, just extremely fucking stupid.
You can definitely say in today's game making any kind of 'blind' challenge like that is stupid because of how it can be interpreted.
On the other hand, he's entitled to say he judged it perfectly, won the ball cleanly (and not just with a toe or his studs, he caught it perfectly) and it's not his fault the Aberdeen lad was late.
There wasn't excessive force, there obviously wasn't intent, for me it's a never red card.
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7 hours ago, Busta Nut said:
It's ok, I'll sit and watch people make excuses for Kettlewell, manipulate the stats in his favour.
I just hope he proves me wrong.
Regardless of "budgets" Aberdeen are dogshite and we've basically let them f**k us. Let's hope we continue to beat Ross County and Livingston.No one is manipulating in his favour more than those manipulating against tbf.
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The Big Relegation Thread
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Kimpioka looks decent for them tbf, I still think they'll be too strong. The chance of one of those Championship teams going through four or six games without fucking one is tiny.