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.....or comparing nob sizes, and seeing who can piss the highest up the urinal.

I also notice that the number of spectators is down considerably on last week. Its true, the crowds aren't as big in the Third!!

Hmmmmm....now theres a thought. If I appeal. can I claim that I still have the 10,000th post, even though the actual figure shows 9,990-something? I will refuse to post again, claiming that I still own post number 10,000, and it would be prejudicial to my appeal if I posted using another post number

Fookin moderators!!! Stole Airdrie's only chance of glory this season!!! The buggers removed my post!!!

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Pardon my stupidity. I have tried to keep up with this thread, and if this has been covered then I apologise. If the SGM decide today to uphold Livi's appeal, do they then decide the punishment, or is it referred back to the LMC to review?

......and while we're at it, can we blame Livi for the dreadful showing against Norway tonight?

I agree that they may get a few votes, but certainly no-where near enough to overturn the decision. If the clubs vote against the decision of the LMC, then I think we would be looking at internal warfare within the SFL. The clubs have to be seen to be backing up the Office Bearers they elected to make these decisions on all of their behalfs. I can't see the SFL handing out anything less than a points deduction for the ES no-show. However, nothing in this whole sordid affair, would surprise me any more. What would they suspend it against? Not showing up next week? The week after? The next time Livi are involved in a no-show is going to be if they fold altogether. They have to be punished for the ES absence NOW, Maybe the SFL will feel that Livi have been punished enough, and , as you say, issue a warning as to their future conduct. However, this was a calculated act, designed to disrupt the league programme, and as such, should be treated as a seperate issue, and punitive action should be immediate. I have gone on record as having absolutely no truck with the genuine, honest Livi supporters in this, having gone through the death throes of my own club not many years ago. Several of them have come on here recognising that the club have been in the wrong, and should face the consequences. For those I mentioned above, I would not wish those consequences to be the death of their club. Football is an emotive subject, especially when it comes to our own clubs, and I can see why so many of the Livi fans get wound up. I've been there, done it, worn the t-shirt. Its not easy to stand back and be objective when your club is going down the tubes, and its easy to say they should stand back and be objective. I might get ripped here, but i wish them all the best to re-group, and be able to support a club that will learn the lessons of the past, and work within their means.

You could always say that your contributions were only a loan to P and B, and hold out for a large pay-off.

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I'm getting deja vu. Didn't I read this 30 pages ago?

Listen, here's a wee secret. Don't tell anybody this, but no, it didn't. They are ACTUALLY the same club under a different name!! Gonnae no tell anyone. Let's just keep it between me and you.......oops....too late.......everybody else seems to understand it.....except you!!

Thats why I said we shouldn't tar them all with the same brush. There are fans of every club who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, but I am a supporter of a lower league club in scotland, who has been through what is happening to Livi just now, and while I have absolutely no sympathy for the Club and the way it was run, I do have empathy with the genuine fans of the club.

I think Massone is going to take this to the wire. I just get the feeling there is something we didn't know about going to raise its head. Massone isn't going to walk away for that amount of money if he thinks he can catch a bigger fish. Why else would he be hanging round until this stage? There could be an endgame still to come into play which could take us all by surprise. If, however, it does all end in tears for the Livi fans, then I am looking forward to what should be an absolute cracker of a farewell speech from the Mad-one. Everyone in the world will be blamed from Barack Obama to Dr Who. Having been through it, I do genuinely feel for the Livi fans who have only tried to support their club. Like most fans, they weren't party to the internal politics of the Boardroom, and as such, couldn't influence the crazy spending habits of those in charge. I think it is unfair to tar them all with the same brush, and most of them realise they have been caught up in something which has spread more out of control than Jordans legs. I have followed this thread with a great deal of interest ( not self-interest, it has to be said), and there have been a lot of very good points made, and a lot of very good arguments debated. At the end of the day, whatever your viewpoint, real people have been, and are still to be, affected by this whole sorry affair. Thats the sad part about it.

Un-fuckin-believable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any truth in the story that Massone has fooked off back to Italia? If that's the case, it means he either doesn't want to face up to the inevitable, or he won't be seen again.

Mr Massone now says that the council are a joke and he won't be coughing up on Monday:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ton/8109765.stm If Livi were an injured animal, then surely the vet would be called in by now?

Party litigant cannot represent another person, or represent the rights of another legal entity, like a Registered Company Tommy Sheridan was able to represent himself, but would not have been able to put a case forward for his wife, for example.

He's an Italian lawyer.....in Italian law! If you have a court case in Scotland, you need a Scottish lawyer. Similarly if you were "lifted" in England, and required representation, then you would hire an English lawyer.