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    All things Dundee FC

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    Today gave me some optimism going into the league season, played well against Raith but the last two results weren't great and Inverness were our toughest opponents so far so to keep the clean sheet yet again and look very comfortable against a side in our league that's expected to do well was pleasing.

    Early days still and a long season ahead but positive signs, seems like we managed to get the feel good factor back around the club after the shambles of last season don't think the importance of that can be underestimated either.

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    All things Dundee FC

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    2 hours ago, EpicMike said:

    Dundee will face much tougher sides than Raith in the Championship but there's a lot to be optimistic about from this match.

    Dundee finally look like they have a midfield that can impose their will on games. When off the ball they pressed and harried Raith until they gave up possession and on the ball their clever passing and movement meant Raith couldn't get near them. Ness and Bryne look like great signings.

    If Meekings stays fit, he'll be one of the best defenders in the Championship. Strong in the air and comfortable on the ball.

    Andy Nelson looks like a natural goal scorer, gets in to great positions and took his chance well, he'll be a massive problem for most Championship defences.

    And now for the negatives...

    I have doubts about Nelson's fitness, he stretched to control the ball near the end of the match and was holding his hamstring after that. We need another striker as we can't be too reliant on Nelson and though I was thrilled to see Curran finally get his goal as he works his arse off, he is not a reliable goal scorer.

    Jack Hamilton didn't have much to do but there were two occasions where he really messed up. Stood glued to this line while Dundee were desperately trying to head the ball away from the 6 yard line and completely misjudged a long ball from Raith and got caught in no man's land and had to be rescued by the Dundee defence (again). McPake needs to help him find his confidence again, or get a new keeper in, as it stands Hamilton is a liability.

    Think a bit harsh with the ball and in no mans land, think the unnatural bounce on the shitty plastic pitch had an effect, but aye he doesn't fill me with the greatest of confidence hopefully a few clean sheets get his confidence up and playing better.

    P.S. f**k plastic pitches

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    All things Dundee FC

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    First real positives under JM from me, well I liked the system and squad system against St Mirren as well wanted to see Miller and Curran on the wings ahead of those two, they've done alright so far like that.  Hope we can build on this and JM can win me over with a few good results.  A great comeback and we were well worth the point.

    Only thing I wasn't too happy with personally was not putting the corner into the box in the 93rd minute, yeah a draw is a good result but sometimes you need to be brave and take risks too but that said I understand totally, we need to build some sort of momentum and taking risks in our position at the moment maybe isn't the right thing to do but I'm a risk taker :lol:

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    All things Dundee FC

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    1 minute ago, Spikethedee said:

    McIntyre can't really bring in new players (Woods and, God help us, Quinn, excepted!!), so he can either change the team tactically or shuffle  the current squad on matchday to bring out the best in players already here.

    Can anyone honestly say that we've looked better organised in the last two games? That we've had a stronger starting line-up this week, compared to before? That we have been better organised and better prepared in defence? 

    I honestly think that not getting at least 4 points from the first two games in November will mean we are off the Cappielow and Palmerston next season...

    Spot on.  We've been less organised, had less fight and the players don't look like they know their jobs at all.  We've went from bad to worse. Worrying.

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    All things Dundee FC

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    1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

    Frightening that we could choose from Caniggia, Falconer, Sara and Milne up front - not to mention Caballero being out injured at the time.

    On their day they were unstoppable.

    Ahhh, the memories.. being excited to go to Dens on a Saturday and watching quality players underachieve instead of shit players do the same ;) Good times.

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    All things Dundee FC

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    1 minute ago, Crawford said:

    Are you McCann?

    He was fucking dreadful. The perfect time to get rid of him was when he first knocked back the job.

    He has been in the job a week and played tough opposition. Our defence was shit before your boyfriend left and it's not going to be fixed over night either. 

    Give the man a solid chance. At least wait until our first realistic shot at points (Motherwell and the other saints) before we all wet the bed.

    I am not McCann, no but I have my eyes open and can see that the way McIntyre has set us out to play so far has been horrendous.  Two of the worst performances in the league this season, conceded seven going on twelve and scored none going on none.  There has been zero organisation, zero back to basics, I haven't seen much of that fight and determination we had against Hamilton and Kilmarnock.

    Whilst I thought McCann was a strange appointment, even on the interim basis on which he was brought in (again, I feel Hartley could've achieved much the same in those last few games) the fact remains that overall in the league we haven't played nearly as bad as we did in these last two games.  Are you saying the players have looked inspired and eager to impress the new manager? 

    You say the defence was shit beforehand - was it that bad that we lost seven goals (should've been more) in two games?

    We lost 2-1 to St Mirren, one poor defending, one the goalkeeper f**k up - should have won the game.
    We lost 1-0 to Aberdeen to a penalty kick - should have got something from the game.
    We lost 1-0 to St Johnstone, again should have got something from the game.

    We then had a bad patch and conceded a few goals losing 3-1 to Motherwell, 4-0 to Rangers and 3-0 to Hibs.  The Motherwell game we changed the shape and were going for an equaliser got caught on the break as happens.

    We went to Hamilton, clean sheet won the game.
    We lost to Killie 2-1 to a dodgy penalty and a deflection.

    Now say what you like, we're all entitled to our opinions but in the first eight games was the defence shit in them all? The answer is no, we took a couple of hammering to Rangers and Hibs put our problems were in the other box.  All of a sudden after the positives of the last two games and starting to build confidence back up we've been absolutely battered by both Livi and Hearts.  it's fair to say that the four teams we've been hammered from so far, Rangers (more so at Ibrox than away), Hibs, Livi and Hearts are good teams.  IMO in most of the league games we have played relatively well, the general feel around the club and supporters was until recently that the players would gel, things would click but as usual people get impatient and make rash decisions one of those being bringing in a man that plays a contrasting style of football, hasn't put us back to basics and has killed any confidence from the positives from the last two games prior to his arrival.  I've said it before and I'll say it again I really, really hope Jim McIntyre can turn it around for us but I'm not going to be holding my breath he is in my opinion the wrong appointment and sadly I think I'll be proven right.

    I understand that he is only a week in the job but as I pointed out before, this is the worst start of any Dundee manager at least since before Bonetti and probably longer.  Hartley, Brown, Smith, Jocky were all only in the door from 1-4 days and managed to get results, managed to make us organised, managed to make us hard to beat so I don't buy the argument about not having enough time to work with them, that is the fault of John Nelms - if a change was to be made waiting ten days obviously wasn't the way to do it but that apart you can get your ideas over to the players, tell them what their jobs are and organise them, set the team up in a way to make us difficult to beat and he's done none of that so far.  I don't want to be critical of him, I wish I could be here praising him saying what a fantastic start and he's the man to take us forward but the reality is the opposite.

     

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    All things Dundee FC

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    52 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said:

    That's how bad we have came when we need to rely on Moussa to help us out. As a striker he is brutal.
    Kallman seems lost.
    Mendy hasn't really had much of a chance.
    Miller is a joke.
    Any youngster seems to get zero chance.

    Zero to look forward to and the board have watched this happen.

    A new stadium to look forward to in a few years time ?

    Well yeah can't argue with that really, he's just the best of a bad bunch at that particular role.

    Nelms doesn't have a clue, terrible timing to get rid of McCann, the whole appointment of Jim McIntyre doesn't inspire me and on the evidence so far inspires the players even less not to mention the Dodds situation.  Typical of Dundee though to have jokers in that sort of position at our club, Scot bloody Gardiner pretty much appointed Bomber Broon FFS.

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