Livi

You still rattled? Despite what you post i have no idea who Roger is although you have convinced yourself that i do. For your record I have had a few civil chats with fellow Livi fans on this thread via DM. See my post above to Liviforever re my position on the club. I've never hid that fact. You just don't agree with it. with all due respect to you. You'll no tell me what i should and shouldn't post. Remember the deal i offered you above

I don't hate anyone. I have made a judgement as an adult based on what i have seen and heard over a prolonged period of time and have come to the conclusion that Ward and Martindale are not the right people to take the club forward. I have further seen a sway of additional supporters who are of the same view. Some who have said enough is enough while they are at the club. So its not a narrow view with a particular agenda. If you have other evidence that you want to put into the mix i am very happy to consider that but let's not hang onto Martindales performance of 4 plus years ago. Let's look at the last few years. Furthermore and not to burst your bubble i have no other amigo on here i am adult enough to come to my own conclusions based on my own mind. i am not asking you to comment on my posts or agree with me but i am asking you to accept I am allowed a different opinion to you without dissing it or accusing me of having an agenda. Thank You

This article is nonsense. He has already agreed a way forward. https://news.stv.tv/sport/david-martindale-wants-to-agree-a-route-forward-at-livingston-after-relegation?utm_source=app

Just playing your game we're both raving weirdos then

Thanks works both ways

Maybe my arsehole comments have something to do with your approach towards myself. I accept we have differences of opinion, however, we both share the same "want" of having a Livingston FC. Cut others a little slack and we can maybe lift the debate up a notch or two otherwise i would stick to your blocking keystroke

** Updated News ** I hear there will be no further action taken against Hogarth on stealing money from Livingston FC from the police action that was taken in 2022

Your prerogative to renew thats the democracy we live in. Lets hope your not funding more court cases and that the money is spent wisely

The village idiot strikes again. Go and read the FB forum, Twitter its not just the same few voices.

It needs a formal approach /group to take the lead not an individual but thanks I would certainly join in and like you sign an open letter. Protest was one example. The facts are with a core fanbase of 800 and no real collective voice through a supporters club or supporters trust it is going to be very difficult. Roll on the new season

You are correct. We have spoken about it here before and it kinda falls on deaf ears. Its like we get the tambourine out and sing if your happy and you know it clap your hands kinda a cathartic approach i am talking about a more co-ordinated approach to the unhappiness. A boo here or there wont cut anything i'm afraid. There could be a co-ordinated approach to stand at the front door in silent protest with banners "Martindale Out" "Resign" on the last home game of the season - might not change anything but at least he would be in no doubt (he said recently he's off social media) Copy what other clubs do when they have managers and volunteers boards like we have. Not asking the media to report on live cases (albeit that happens every day in the criminal courts) but asking hard questions of ownership would be a start. i accept we won't agree on this. i'm away looking for the tambourine.

Seriously thats whats holding up the Trust moving forward?

I guess i was just going by whats said here and on the FB forum. You are right i should have said minimum pressure being asserted rather than ZERO. i seen on here and FB forum people say i will renew regardless. That was my point. When are the Trust due to announce names for the committee roles?

I get that but there looks to be on the surface ZERO pressure from the fanbase. A lot of fans saying had enough but still going to fund the club with season ticket purchase. There seems to be ZERO media interest to the behind the scenes shenanigans of court cases. I just don't get it any other club there would be some from of external pressure but seems there is nothing at Livi despite how many are feeling Any news on the Trust asking hard questions of the club?

Why is Martindale being afforded the opportunity to keep going? Saw a fan put a thread together of Martindale's last 18 month performance and its a shocking read. why is no-one absolutely no one challenging him?

Some facts in this article. There are no championship discounted legal fees unfortunately. Why is Ward and Martindale holding on screaming and shouting for something thats not their company

We disagree on somethings but we agree on this point you make about respect

You know and I know we should be building for next season with a new manager. Martindale should do the honourable thing and walk but looks like he's no honourable so we're stuck with him

Martindale couldn't care less that he has just relegated Livi and just moves onto next season already. Wonder if family members will lose their jobs as a result on the less revenue coming in. I am sure we will hear from the volunteer chairman soon on the plans for the club from here on in. I wont hold my breadth

We'll agree to differ

This is worrying https://news.stv.tv/sport/martindale-reveals-livi-have-signed-three-new-players-for-next-season

Hopefully Martindale is looking down south as well (for himself)

I've been outed as a few people over the last few months so lets throw that option in as well. Along with also being @Roger the cabin boy Anyone know how the court cases went last week?

He treats the Livi fans like Mushrooms. (Kept in the dark and fed sh!t)

I am not sure i agree. Carson i believe was just too close to the club. As a local sports reporter he must have known about the off field ownership issues in court and yet chose to blank them out. Sometimes you felt it was more about him than the club.