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The board should not be involved in signing players. The manager should have free reign to sign who he wants within his budget.
If the board appointed a competent manager they would trust him to manage the recruitment process. If they can't recruit a competent manager I don't fancy their chances of being any use on player recruitment either.
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Just now, rrfsee said:
How would you all feel about a Laurie Ellis/Craig Easton management team?
I've been thinking since Saturday, I'd like to see Laurie at least get interviewed for the job.
However, next season is huge for us and can really shape our future, we need to bounce straight back. Any appointment is a risk but I'm not sure it's the right time to appoint somebody with no management experience.
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If we were winning every week and Vaughan was sulking and his replacements were banging in the goals, I could maybe see the point.
Fact is we were getting beat every week, not scoring goals and Locke still wouldn't give him a chance. Not only that, we was persisting with his mate Rudi fucking Skacel in his position. If he wasn't going to get a chance then, when was he under Locke? I can 100% understand why he was desperate to go out on loan and play games. 2 years not getting game time at his age would be disastrous. He showed loyalty to us by signing a new contract.
I'd agree we've not seen the best of him yet but hopefully he stays and that comes next year. A season in League 1 scoring 15-20 goals would do his confidence and stock within the game the world of good and he could move on having hopefully got us back up, with things left on good terms.
Im happy with him being ambitious and talking about playing at a higher level. Like not wanting a manager for 4/5 years because it means we won't have progressed, it's the same for players. Unfortunately at our level, if a promising young player like Vaughan is with us 3/4 years from now it's because he's not progressed as he should have. Same goes for Matthews and Callachan.
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15 minutes ago, R.R.FC said:
I had a look previously and you can basically tie Vaughan dropping out the team with our drop in form and lack of goals.
I think a large part of that is coincidence and he is in danger of being overhyped slightly. However, our record with and without him starting this season makes for worrying reading. There's no doubt in my mind he would be a massive player for us in League 1.
Have looked into this further. Our record in games Vaughan has started this season is:
Played 9 - Won: 5 Lost: 2 Drawn: 2
Goals for: 14 (Average 1.55 per game)Games Vaughan didn't start
Played 36 - Won: 7 Lost: 18 Drawn: 11
Goals for: 35 (Average 0.97 per game)
Now a lot of this is coincidence as we were already showing signs of a dip with Vaughan in the team and he didn't help himself with his performances off the bench which were largely awful. However, I definitely think he would have added some much needed creativity to our team. Danny Handling was the only player willing to put his foot on the ball and show composure to pick a pass in the latter stages of the season.
Regardless of any of this, it wouldn't be discussed nearly as much if the board hadn't loaned him to a team in the same fucking league!
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I had a look previously and you can basically tie Vaughan dropping out the team with our drop in form and lack of goals.
I think a large part of that is coincidence and he is in danger of being overhyped slightly. However, our record with and without him starting this season makes for worrying reading. There's no doubt in my mind he would be a massive player for us in League 1.
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Didn't Toshney hand in a transfer request and demand to move and we still got money for him?
What was the difference with Bates?
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As covered, a pretty uninspiring interview. Quite right he says he will consider his position, seems strange the chairman has been given such an easy ride compared to the CEO. They should both go after this season.
I agree there is a lot of stuff to be sorted regarding players and manager and now is not the time for turmoil in the boardroom. However, can these people really be trusted to oversee these decisions over the next few weeks that will define our future? If they appoint another dud manager and let half our contracted players walk away for free before they consider their future later in the summer then the damage is already done.
On a positive note, fair play to the interviewer, thought he handled it well. Asked most of the questions we all wanted answered which must be easier said than done when you work so closely with these people.
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Been asked a bunch of times but I'm too lazy to trawl back through, who is under contract for next season? Off the top off my head I've got:
Cuthbert
Benedictus
Davidson
Matthews
Callachan
B. Barr
Vaughan
StewartI'm sure I read Craig Barr may be too?
That's actually a really good base to build a side around for League 1 if they all stay. Stewart and Davo are the only 2 I wouldn't be too disappointed to see go. Though in saying that someone like Stewart may thrive a level down. Who knows, he may reunite the goalscoring partnership with Vaughan that nobody told Locke about!
Anyone know what the contract status is of the development squad players and if any are likely to be ready for the step up?
Of the players who have featured regularly this season and aren't contracted for next season there's hardly any of them I'd want back. Handling and Hardie have been decent but are never dropping down to League 1.
I'd give Court a deal, he's very raw and must improve his hold up play but he's got something about him and don't think he'd be expensive to keep. Aside from that I'd probably keep Jason Thomson in the hope he'd get back to form but would admit he's not done enough this season to deserve a contract.
That would mean we'd have the following players leaving:
Brennan
Penska
M'Voto
McHattie
Thompson
McManus
Handling
Skacel
Johnston
Hardie
Robertson
RobertsI'm probably forgetting a few such is the size of the squad this season.
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15 minutes ago, Wardy said:
We might still finish 8th remember. I know it's pretty hard to compute, but it is possible.
Fair point. It's the hope that kills you! Given our home record, I'm actually hopeful of getting 3 points but I just can't see St Mirren not getting at least a point.
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32 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
You should, these are the guys on the park who will be trying to get you out of this desperate situation. They absolutely wont want to play for a guy who stands infront of the TV cameras absolutely slaughtering their ability and their professional attitude.
There's a difference between telling the "truth" in the dressing room/at training/in one to one meetings than there is to the national media.
The whole "back in my day" nonsense he's spouting is the type of patter you'd expect to hear from a piss stained, racist alchy propping up the bar at the local hell hole. Times have changed, folk no longer react to boots up the arse with no talking back. He clearly needs to adapt to that.
I get what you mean but it looks very clear cut that Hughes is leaving at the end of the season. A lot of the players are signed with us for next year or playing for their futures as a full time footballer.
They have 1 possibly 3-5 games to shape that future. I may be slightly naive but I would think they should be willing to put any personal feelings about Hughes to one side to get through this for the good of the club and themselves.
As I say if Hughes was on a 2 year deal and committed to next year, what he said would have been disastrous and alienated the players. But as one final roll of the dice to try and get a reaction before he goes, I think it's worth it.
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I wouldn't keep Hughes for next season, a lot of his decisions have been downright bizarre since he came in.
But, having said that, it is difficult to judge properly when he has not been able to bring in own players. You just have to look at St Mirren. Jack Ross is being hailed as a hero, and quite rightly too for a fantastic turnaround. However, the initial turnaround when he took charge was minimal at best, it wasn't until he got his own players in that things started to change.
Locke was a disaster that everyone could see coming and Drysdale should walk for the shambles that he has caused. Hughes has came in and been a huge disappointment. Despite all this, the players really do have to start taking their fair share of the blame. It's quite incredible how lightly the players have got off this season.
I have no problem with Hughes interview, says it like it is. Couldn't care less if the players don't like it or don't like him for it. The interview seems to have been picked up quite a lot by the media so there is a bit of spotlight on the players now to see how they react. They know as well as we do Hughes won't be here next year, downing tools because of that interview would be far more likely to affect them than him.
Being honest, I think most of us would accept we deserve to go down, it's actually quite incredible that despite our form since November that we go into the last game unlikely to be relegated automatically. Would be great to see a positive response from the players on Saturday to send us into the play offs with some sort of positivity.
Any news on if Cuthbert would be back for the play offs? Brennan is hopeless and Penska has yet to convince me fully (last 2 games in particular).
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It just shows what mug punters football fans are. Despite the absolute shit served up on and off the field this year, I'm still probably going to end up buying a super early bird season ticket.
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1 hour ago, CALDERON said:
Each to their own, but any professional footballer who struggles to control a football in acres of space and resort to just booting it, id class as terrible.
Would you class M'Voto as terrible?
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Vaughan league record is good since he got canned just as things started to go downhill.
Davo's result stats are pretty irrelevant as you could produce similar stats for the majority of the team. This run of form is down to far, far more than one player.
In fact I don't think it can be argued that Davidson has actually been a better right back than Thomson this season. Agree he is finished in midfield but he was never very good there to begin with.
He seems a popular but strange target for abuse IMO. He is one of the few who can't have his commitment questioned this season. His distribution is and always has been pretty woeful but it's not really what I look for in a defender/defensive mid. That's what our 'forward thinking' players are for.
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1 hour ago, Kdawg said:
I though the former player that Hughes tried to sign that asked if the wages on offer were for a day and not a week, was perhaps Tade.
I thought it was one of Hughes' former players rather than an ex Rovers player?
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2 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
Since that game we've been promoted and regained our title as the Kings of Fife.
Cowdenbeath have been relegated twice and could well make it three, they've had a vile time recently.They couldn't of hired anyone more capable of finishing the job.
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6 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said:
Just means they'll be able to beat you in the play-off final.
At Starks.
It could be our Cowdenbeath moment.
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1 minute ago, The Minertaur said:
Any good or should we be looking out directions to Selkirk?
We wouldn't know.
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With the size of squad and paying off around 18 months of Locke's contract, I can't imagine we've run at a profit this season. Serious questions should(and will) be asked of the board at the end of the season, regardless of where we end up.
Looking at the table, I think we need 10-12 points to guarantee safety. Looking at our fixtures I'm struggling to see where we'll get them. We really need 4-6 points from our next 2 home games which is a big ask. But with 4 of our last 6 games away from home with our awful away form we need to give ourselves a good cushion.
Hughes hasn't had the impact any of us hoped and he has already made many decisions that would have seen Locke slaughtered (Triple sub vs Hibs, playing Bene and Thomson out of position at QOS when McHattie was available, no goalkeeper vs Ayr, subs against Dumbarton) but I still feel his hands are tied by the guff he has inherited whether it be through lack of talent or confidence.
Someone suggested trying a back 5 but I think that's part of our recent problem. We are changing personal and formation on a weekly basis which doesn't help anyone. Understandable given our terrible form but it doesn't help. Hughes needs to pick a formation and his preferred 11 to fit within that and give them a decent run together to develop some consistency. I think his lack of knowledge of the squad is part of the reason for the changes too, he's still trying to find out who he can trust but that's where Craig Easton should help out.
The team I'd for (and this will get hounded) would be:
Whoever is fit
Thomson
Bene
M'Voto
McHattieDavo
C.BarrB. Barr
Callachan
CoustrainHardie
I realise C.Barr and Davo in there would be eye bleeding but I thought Davo did a pretty good job shielding the back 4 against St Mirren(distribution aside). Also playing the 2 of them would give more defensive security to free up our attacking players to express themselves. It also frees up Callachan who I feel is much better when he's playing on the front foot.
It wouldn't be pretty to watch but I'd be more than happy to see us shitfest ourselves to a few 0-0's and 1-0's to get us over the line.
TL; DR version = Sack the board, stop tinkering Yogi and lets shitfest our way to safety.
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24 minutes ago, Sonsteam of 08 said:
Lost his passport, aye? Be some laugh (for all of us) if he was some random Slovakian bloke chancing it. A sort of goalkeeping Ali Dia if you will.
Give how this has gone so far I wouldn't even be slightly surprised if that turned out to be true to be brutally honest.4 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said:Had his passport stolen
Guaranteed this is part of a hidden camera show. I hope he has massive haggis hands.
Fucksake I'm now going to have the fear until his first save tonight now! Given our season so far it would surprise nobody if you were both right.
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3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said:
I'm actually astounded this still hasn't been dealt with.
What's the major hold up? Is it a financial thing or is the gaffer just unable to find a keeper he's happy with? Either way, Raith fans must be fuming that it's taking so long.I'm more at the laughter and despair stage. This season has taken its toll. Difficult to be fuming or surprised by anything anymore.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. I'm pretty sure that's the exact signing Gary Locke would have tried to make!
Seriously though, if it is Kello, I'd be pretty happy with that. Was reasonably well thought of at Hearts though that was a long time ago. How was he for St Mirren?
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Scary just how strong the Gary Locke effect is. With 10 games to go, we already can't match last seasons points total. Even winning every game (I know) we'd be 6 points worse off.
Anyone less lazy than me got the line ups from the play off games or one of the games on the unbeaten run last season? Interested to see just how much our starting 11 has changed.
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Obviously the Vaughan thing has been done to death. I think he's exactly what we're missing just now as the link between midfield and attack and would really suit Hughes style of play.
But I started to think we all (myself included) are maybe in danger of overhyping him just a tad. After all most of us agree he wasn't at his best earlier in the season...
However, looking back at the start of the season, as far as I can see he only started 5 league games. We won 3, drew 1 and lost 1. So yeah Locke is fud and Vaughan should still be here.
Not really sure what that adds we already knew that, I'm just surprised how few league starts he actually had.
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The New Raith Rovers Thread
in Scottish Championship General Chatter
Posted · Edited by R.R.FC
Agree with this. John Potter's performance at the Pars gives me the fear about appointing a promising youth coach with no management experience.
Easton is doing well and I can see him being our manager one day but now is not the time for such a gamble.