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30 minutes ago, tamthebam said:
That's the Boys' Brigade in HJ's pictures above I believe.
Correct.
BBs still own Letham Park... Edinburgh HQ ('Pollock Pavilion') is adjacent @ 227 Ferry Road:
formerly @ 73 (which until recently had become HQ of the Prince's Trust):
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I think Easthouses Lily are the only senior club ever relegated (under regular conditions) without negative GD... EOS Premier Division 2008-09: came 11th on 0.
Inverness have come 9th on +1
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Playoffs await them...
Dumbarton were promoted via playoffs from SFL2 2011-12: finished 3rd on 0... Brechin from SPFL1 2016-17: finished 4th on -6... Edinburgh City from SPFL2 2021-22: finished 4th on -6.2 -
1 hour ago, ICTChris said:
The Sky News prediction is also a little unlikely. Voting patterns in a General Election would be different to a local election and drawing conclusions on overall vote share doesn’t take into account weighting towards winnable seats etc.
Just now, Michael W said:There won't be anywhere near the same volume of votes going to local independents in a GE for starters. It's also hard to draw conclusions in terms of how this will play out nationally from the very weird way that England organises and elects its local authorities.
Quite, it's junk: a GB extrapolation Lab 35%, Con 25%, LDs 15%, Rest 25% (high in council elections from Inds: was 10% in 2019 GE).
Polls have Lab far higher, LDs far lower, Rest lower (despite Reform)/etc.0 -
6 hours ago, eez-eh said:
Utter c**t absentee owner tries to stop the final stage of the demolition after ignoring the council for about a decade.
Thankfully the court says "carry on": Demolition work to resume at Ayr Station Hotel following owner's court challenge | STV News
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2 hours ago, tamthebam said:
Where did Leith Amateurs play their games?
24 minutes ago, Cowdenleith said:Here, there and everywhere it seems.
Chancelot Park in Bonnington, off Ferry Road - now Letham Park - that season:
Incidentally they took-over Edinburgh Civil Service's record halfway through 1923-24.2 -
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USM Algiers forfeited SF 1st-leg of African equivalent of EL - which they're defending - last week after police seized opponents Berkane's shirts citing its map of Morocco:
Row over map of Morocco on shirt sees Confederation Cup game postponed - BBC Sport
Morocco map row: Club given 3-0 win after refusing to play in Algeria - BBC Sport
USMA now forfeited 2nd-leg too:
Morocco map row: Second game involving USM Alger called off - BBC Sport
Morocco map row: Cas to hear appeal from Algerian federation and club - BBC Sport
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46 minutes ago, Eednud said:
Scotland 2 Uruguay 3 at Hampden on 2 May 1962 att: 67,081.
I was surprised by 'low' attendance.
There was always a Hampden friendly v foreign opposition right after season ended but many had noticeably poor crowds for the time... fans more parochial?
28 Apr 1948 70,000 Scotland 2-0 Belgium
27 Apr 1949 125,683 Scotland 2-0 France
26 Apr 1950 123,751 Scotland 3-1 Switzerland
12 May 1951 75,690 Scotland 3-1 Denmark (Festival of Britain)
16 May 1951 75,394 Scotland 1-0 France (Festival of Britain)
30 Apr 1952 107,765 Scotland 6-0 USA
06 May 1953 83,800 Scotland 1-2 Sweden
05 May 1954 25,897 Scotland 1-0 Norway
04 May 1955 20,858 Scotland 1-0 Portugal
02 May 1956 80,509 Scotland 1-1 Austria
08 May 1957 88,890 Scotland 4-2 Spain (World Cup qualifier)
07 May 1958 54,900 Scotland 1-1 Hungary
06 May 1959 103,415 Scotland 3-2 West Germany
04 May 1960 26,643 Scotland 2-3 Poland
03 May 1961 46,694 Scotland 4-1 Eire (World Cup qualifier)
02 May 1962 67,181 Scotland 2-3 Uruguay
08 May 1963 94,596 Scotland 4A1 Austria
no game in 1964
08 May 1965 60,146 Scotland 0-0 Spain
11 May 1966 16,513 Scotland 0-3 Netherlands
10 May 1967 53,497 Scotland 0-2 USSR
no game in 1968
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6 hours ago, ICTChris said:
today a 17 year old has been arrested on suspicion of murder after an attack at a school in Sheffield. Two teachers and a child were minorly injured
Controversial.
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Southerly tier 6 update:
South of Scotland League (22 games)
Dalbeattie Star will be champions unless they lose to Creetown
West of Scotland League (30 games)
allowing for GD advantage Beith - who are ineligible - will be champions unless they lose both their remaining games and Auchinleck Talbot win all theirs
Run-ins:
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Broxburn Athletic are CHAMPIONS
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Vale of Leithen are RELEGATED
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2 hours ago, SandyCromarty said:
Lord Mackay of Clashfern, the Lord Chancellor and top law officer in Margaret Thatchers government, an Invernessian and the son of a railway worker was severely admonished by the Free Church for attending the funeral of two Roman Catholic colleagues in London, he was suspended as an elder and asked to repent and vow that he would not attend a Catholic service again. The Free Church regarded a Roman Catholic Mass as an abomination against god. He resigned from the Free Church and worshipped in the Associated Presbyterian Church here in Inverness. He had an illustrious career from humble beginnings but in religion he stood by his principles.
2 hours ago, ICTChris said:I though the APC was set up by Lord MacKay and his supporters?
2 hours ago, tamthebam said:He was a member of the Free Presbyterian Church (the Wee Wee Frees) and not the Free Church (Wee Frees). I don't know if anyone well known ever joined the Popular Free Church (wee splitters)
SandyCromarty is mistaken.
Lord Mackay was an elder in the Free Presbyterian CofS (the 'Wee Wee Frees'), a conservative minority which had left the Free Church of Scotland (the 'Frees') in 1893... Forbes belongs to the conservative minority of the latter (the 'Wee Frees') who didn't unite with United Presbyterian Church in 1900 to form the United Free Church... However in a more contemporary context she belongs to a liberal majority the FC Continuing left in 2000.
Ian Blackford is also a 'Wee Free' - as was Gordon Wilson.
Mackay and a liberal minority left the FPs in 1989 forming Associated Presbyterian Churches. (Incidentally the APC has since declined to only 6 congregations; only Inverness + Stornoway still have their own churchbuilding).
There hasn't been a Scottish church census since 2016, but on 2nd Sunday in May that year Church of Scotland attendance was 136,910... Free Church (i.e. Forbes & Blackford's denomination) 10,210... UFs 3,220... FC Continuing 830... other presbyterians combined (FPs + APC i.e. Mackay's denomination + RPs + IPC) 2,180.1 -
8 minutes ago, Shadow Play said:
I thought an election could be called anytime or is that just in Westminster and not the Scottish Parliament?
ETA called by the party in power.
Holyrood elections happen in May every 5 years.
MSPs can call an extra election - by 2/3 majority vote or by going 4 weeks without a FM - but unless after Nov 2025, there'd be another in May 2026.1 -
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1 minute ago, Ivo den Bieman said:
Yeah Brechin are close, Hawick plummted but not in consecutive seasons.
Should Vale drop again next season think that's pretty much history-making. I doubt they've mustered more than 3-4 wins in total, across the past few seasons
Hawick do have a gap for 2019-20 (as 2020-21 was null & void); albeit wasn't actually possible to go down that year, and did come 2nd bottom!
Vale got kept up in 2019-20 and struggled since:
4pts from 119 games (19pts won but 15pts deducted)
5 wins
4 draws
110 losses
77 goals for
548 goals against
-471 goal difference
(not including expunged 0-6 and 0-2 defeats v Rosyth)
2019-20 Lowland League
2020-21 Lowland League
2021-22 Lowland League
2022-23 EOS Premier Division
2023-24 EOS First Division (to date)
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25 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said:
If Vale drop into the third division for 25/26 wil that have been four successive relegations from the Lowland League? This by my reckon ing is their third successive relegation having barely troubled the scorers all season.
Wow. Reminiscent of Northampton in the 60s (Div 4- Div 1 and then straight back all the way to Div 4 again) or Wolves in the 80s (3 successive relegations from first to fourth division, 1983-86).
There's been the odd double relegation in Scotland in my time (St. Johnstone certainly in the early 80s, maybe Dunfermline / Dumbarton as well) but three successive relegations with barely a win across those relegations in three seasons is impressive San Marino-esque form. Quite astonishing they were in the Lowland League for so long.
Brechin basically suffered 3 consecutive between 2018 and 2021 allowing for disruption in 2020... Hawick got relegated from LL to EOSL in 2018, to First in 2019, Second in 2022 and Third in 2023 = 4.
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Yousaf's constituents react to resignation
Catriona Renton - BBC Scotland reporter
It started to pour with rain here in Humza Yousaf’s Glasgow Pollok constituency in the minutes before he resigned as first minister. I broke the news to several of his constituents. It came as a surprise to some but no great shock to others who have been following the events of the past few days.
It would be fair to say that many of those I spoke to were not particularly engaged with what is happening. Others did not even know he was their MSP.
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Since returning to Hampden in 2016 the Amateur final AFAICS mostly got to use the day after the Scottish but it's now used for Womens... last 4 will have been midweek (Wed, Tue, Wed, Thu).
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7 hours ago, Eednud said:
1962 both out of the Cup so Arsenal and Dundee met home and away. 17 Feb 2-2 at Highbury and at Dens Park on 10 Mar 1-0 to the Arsenal. 16,341 at Highbury and 10,000 at Dens. Not sure if a programme was issued for the game at Dens. Can’t find anything about the game at Dens other than the Arsenal lineup. http://www.thearsenalhistory.com/stat/aftlu.htm
7 hours ago, Eednud said:The same day Dundee were at Highbury, Dundee United beat Manchester City 2-1 at Tannadice before
Occurs to me that as English clubs were banned from preseason friendlies until 1961 (for Scottish clubs 1966 and not at home until 1967): it also was about only chance to meet on a weekend.0 -
Still, at least Jenny Gilruth gives a clean break from Sturgeon-Yousaf continuity and Green beholdenness, a high public profile, and successful record in her 1yr at transport + 1yr at education...
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14 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:
The Liverpool game was over 10 years before I was born but the same principle (out of the Scottish/English Cups) resulted in a game I WAS at.
ST.Mirren v Arsenal February 1981
Sunday 15th February 1981 - St Mirren 2-3 Arsenal (9,389)... for the Provan Jewellers Challenge Cup
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EDIT: interestingly moved back 24hrs from Saturday over SFA objections it might suppress attendance at Morton v Aberdeen (which drew 8,350).
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Trapdoor to Hell
in Scottish League 2 General Chatter
Posted · Edited by HibeeJibee
Rangers wanted 2 divisions of 16 back as had operated until 1955 (when C Division was abolished and a Scottish Reserve League began).
To get around supermajorities they proposed winding-up SFL then immediately forming a new league with 5 'smallest' clubs excluded (not bottom 5 clubs: they'd actually finished 8th, 9th, 11th, 12th, 15th out of 19 in 1963-64).
At a secret meeting of 'the 32' threats were made to 10 more - Alloa, Arbroath, Ayr, Cowdenbeath, Dumbarton, East Fife, Montrose, Queen's Park, Raith and Stirling Albion - that some of them might find themself 'swapped' for the 5 if voted against.
28th April 1964 20th May 1964 26th May 1964
The press sided with Rangers in their illogical attempts at bullying | borussiabeefburg (wordpress.com)