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Last night is all I ask. Effort, movement, determination, passing with purpose rather than 40 passes in our own half then hoof.
Keep that up and I would be happy as a pig in shit.
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24 minutes ago, betting competition said:
If we win tonight then we move up to 3rd, other clubs like Hibs and Hearts would love to be in our position.What a strange thing to say. Does the continuing failure of other clubs mean our own stagnation should be celebrated?
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2 minutes ago, DrewDon said:
Let's not pretend that "happy clappers" is only used to describe those fans who meet that rather narrow criteria.
You're telling me what I think now? I can't speak for others but that 'narrow criteria' fits my definition perfectly.
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3 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:
You’re understandably angry about our current situation but don’t make an enemy out of those who aren’t as raging as you.McInnes is not the main target of my 'raging' and I've been raging for a decade or more (with a brief respite between 2014 - 2017) and really I should have been raging for even longer but it takes time to see what's actually happening consistently, rather than a blip
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2 hours ago, kingjoey said:
Dearie me, “happy clappers”. Just use that term for anyone that disagrees with you.
Dinna spik shite ye bubblin' mess
A Happy Clapper is the fan who toes the 'party line' without question, who says idiotic nonsense like "remember Mark McGhee" as if finishing 2nd in 2016 justifies McInnes keeping his job ad infinitum, who supports the move to Kingsford without asking why it has come to this, who buys into the revisionism of Wiggy's tenure...
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On 28/01/2020 at 15:22, Dele said:
There's Aberdeen fans who wouldn't be happy with £2m for Cosgrove?
Nae ony mare I widna think
Of course the happy clappers can suggest It may be just a temporary loss of form, but without goals his general fucking donkey- like uselessness is thrown into sharp relief
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1 hour ago, naegoodinthedark said:
Be nice if we could score a goal from open play
Real nice.ftfy
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1 hour ago, KnightswoodBear said:
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Miami Dolphin? Very apt. They've won f**k all in the last decade too
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15 hours ago, EdTheDuck said:
I agree with you. I think someone will, maybe Stoke. However, if AFC hold out for £4 or £5 million I don't think they'll get it. If he played for either of the ugly sisters they probably would get £5 million just because of the skewed mentality about those clubs. Likewise *I* don't think Cosgrove has what it takes to be the success he has been up to do similar in that horrible league but that's just my opinion. Maybe he'll set the heather alight down there too.
'kin 'ell
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1 minute ago, Rodhull said:
Not really. My point was that there were recent instances of players showing unusual talent in this league, standing out for non OF teams and getting big money moves and the money spent down there seems to go up all the time.
I don't necessarily think Cosgrove would be a big success down there either but that doesn't mean an English club might not be willing to take the risk.
I agree with you. I think someone will, maybe Stoke. However, if AFC hold out for £4 or £5 million I don't think they'll get it. If he played for either of the ugly sisters they probably would get £5 million just because of the skewed mentality about those clubs. Likewise *I* don't think Cosgrove has what it takes to be the success he has been up to do similar in that horrible league but that's just my opinion. Maybe he'll set the heather alight down there too.
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2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Jayden Stockley had a 1 in 3 goal record in the Championship last season, its a vastly over rated division due to there being two or three high quality sides in it.
How many games did he play? How many goals did he score?
I didn't suggest it was a high quality league, I said it was ugly, physical and brutal. It's a harder league in than ours by fucking miles. There may only be a couple 'quality' teams in there but there's a dozen or more teams who could beat anyone in the division on any given day.
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1 minute ago, Rodhull said:
What about Mcginn and Robertson? Obviously I’m not saying Cosgrove is going on to be as good as them but I feel his impact in Scotland isn’t much different to what those players did before heading down south. The fact he’s young and a English will work in his favour too.
If you want we could list all the players from Scotland who have gone South and bombed, but what would be the point of that? It proves nothing and particularly not in the case of Cosgrove.
Think whatever you like, it's a free country. Personally, I will be surprised if Cosgrove is a runaway success in the English Championship as he is up here. It's an ugly, physical brutal league and his physical presence down there will not carry him as far as it does up here.
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8 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said:
Cosgrove is the 2nd or 3rd top scorer in the top flight of Scottish football this season.
He's scored something like 40 goals in just over 13 months. That's pretty remarkable. And it's not just his goalscoring....his link up play and general all-round game has come on hugely and is being acknowledged by those in the game.
How much do you think Rangers would sell Morelos for, or Celtic Edouard ?
So what? Our league is utter dross, it's the worst I can ever remember it being. He won't score 40 goals in 13 months in the English Championship. More like 13 in 40 months...
English clubs, when dealing with the ugly sisters, have the erroneous mentality they are dealing with big players and will pay accordingly. Dealing with Aberdeen or any of The Rest they have the equally erroneous mentality they are dealing with cottage industry clubs.
Aberdeen can hold out for whatever they want, they won't get it. Their choice is accept the couple of million or keep Cosgrove (and hope his form doesn't collapse) until he signs a pre-contract agreement and they get £150K
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1 hour ago, TommyDickFingers said:
You must rate him then ? Why not ask for 4 ?
I don't. Two million British Pounds is what Stoke (allegedly) have in mind. Personally I'd take it, no questions asked, in a heartbeat.
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1 minute ago, TommyDickFingers said:
You'd happily sell arguably our best asset for f**k all ?
No, for two million British Pounds
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On 07/01/2020 at 13:51, Aberdeen Cowden said:
This is turning out to be a right mess. Nothing will be progressed until the roundabout is sorted.
Could swear I saw something about traffic lights being installed there (finally) but fucked if I can find an article. Maybe I dreamed it
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7 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:
2m...
They think he's Peter Crouch's clone
He's nae
Bite their fuckin hand off (if true)
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3 minutes ago, tree house tam said:
Aye we did tell you about his limitations, he's still more than capable to achieve 3rd most years and a couple of cup finals, what more should Aberdeen expect?
They shouldn't expect anything more. He has AFC where it should be as their main contemporaries, Hearts & Hibs, are under performing badly. However, I've no doubt that the flat-line is the problem; the fear of celtic and rangers is there for all to see, the failure to learn any lessons in Europe, the dreadful, dreadful football on offer.
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2 hours ago, ScottishZizou said:
Genuine question or couple of questions.
Do you believe in the long run Aberdeen would finish as regularly in the positions they have without McInnes? Even discounting for the fact the Rangers weren't as strong and saying they were the equivalent of 3rd place finishes. Historical evidence suggests not
If the answer is no then does that even matter? Would you like a change just because it's something different from the norm? I am not suggesting there's anything wrong with that just curious as to whether some of the fans think that deep down we likely wouldn't be as stable and as regularly finishing where we are which there's no denying has been pretty good. They are just so fed up of the norm. Or do some people actually think a different manager could realistically compete for the league? surely not?
Yeahhh…I think the way the club was run and the circumstances has a lot to do with things before suggesting history supports McInnes.
Let’s ignore the Ferguson era because it prevents The Rest making faces and screaming “aye Ferguson n at but”.
From 1970 (when Dick Donald became chairman & Chris Anderson vice-chairman) until 1998 when you-know-who became chairman there were 21 seasons sin Fergie and AFC finished outside the top 5 just five times (and only twice outside the top 6). In that time they won 5 cups or 1 every 4.2 years.
Since 1998 until McInnes arrived there were 16 seasons. AFC finished outside the top 5 eleven times with only Jimmy Mahogany and Ebbe providing relief. They won 1 cup or 1 every 16 years.
McInnes has bucked the trend by getting Aberdeen back to no more than where they should be in the league (and 1 cup in 6.5 years) almost despite the chairman but for most of his tenure he has been the first AFC manager in two decades working without a £10M-£15M restrictive debt hanging over him.
Don’t get me wrong, McInnes can only work with the tools he has and he’s done a competent job and in the early years a bang up job. I honestly think his problem is a lack of confidence in his own ability. The longer he’s been here, the more safety-first he’s become which, to me, suggests fear. Incidentally it's also exactly what the St. Johnstone fans predicted way, way back.
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11 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:
Whats a happy clapper?
Those who recite the party line verbatim.
12 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:
or it could get better
Indeed which is why I said they could recover
12 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:For clarity, i think the issue is boredom.People just want something new,rightly or wrongly.
In a nutshell.
It seemed we were on an upward trajectory but, sadly, we have flat lined. The result is disappointment and, as you say, boredom.
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6 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:
Booing at full time isn't new nor is telling a manager he's a c**t and to GTF after a shit result / performance.
My point which i thought was fairly obvious, is it really "swathes of the fan base against him " or a vocal minority venting?
Fair enough. Although even some of the happier clappers in the various forums that I pollute seem to be turning...
How about the "regular" season attendances dropping 12% (almost 2,000 per game) compared to 2017/18 - is that a swathe?
Granted this season isn't over and the attendances could recover some...or, of course, could get worse.
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16 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:
is it really swathes tho?
or a couple handfuls of 20 somethings on twitter screeching and retweeting each other about Mcinnes, easily spotted by the use of "literally" at the start of every sentence. Only to be topped on the sadometer by the twitteratti that @cormackdavie every time they type "McInnes must go" etc
Wiz that the couple of handfuls booing at Paisley the day? Made a hoor o a fuckin racket for a couple handfuls - hope they're a in the Merkland in a couple wiks
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No one expects AFC to be above the ugly sisters but given the absolute dearth of quality in this league, dropping 21 points to The Rest this season is dreadful given our budget. If AFC had picked up even half of those we’d be 6 or 7 points clear in 3rd.
Sitting 3rd/4th in the league is bang average for Aberdeen given their budget (or 2nd without Rangers, Hearts, Hibs, United). McInnes is not over-achieving by doing so.
The problem is that he is achieving break even with a style of football that is fucking horrendous. He has learned absolutely Jack Shit about how to play in Europe over 6 campaigns. His cup record is chequered – capitulations, hammerings, and a couple 1/2-and-outs as well the finals and semis.
It may well be better than what went before but that to use that as justification for retaining McInnes ad infinitum is the strawest of straw men.
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and then I said " but it also shuts a few people up who questioned that"
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This. He's such a social inadequate he is doing the TV pundit equivalent of pulling our pigtails because he hasn't got the skills to actually tell us how he feels. Bet he has loads of bits of paper with stuff like 'Boydy & AFC 4EVA' doodled on them