Davie Bhoy
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You can't really argue with that...
Here's a picture of the old Firhill Shed complete with drench lighting [emoji6]
Remember being in there in the 90's to watch Thistle beat us. Remember walking up the stairs near to the fence that segregated both fans & it was like walking up a Ski Slope with the big angled stairs. Old school being able to walk around behind the goals.0 -
so we should all support Rangers or Celtic then?
Call it support if you want but I think it'd be a good thing to maybe wish us well in Europe until such time as maybe we are a direct threat to you.-3 -
Your club waited to see how the others would vote before committing to saying no to newco. So a bit of hypocrisy there considering Kilmarnock didn't say yes. Had the clubs said yes to newco your club would have followed regardless of how the majority of Celtic fans felt about Rangers being shoehorned into the SPL. The Celtic board would not want to lose the OF games, it makes business sense, its the guaranteed every season money maker for both clubs. Same applies to Kilmarnock fans with their club many of whom would have been horrified and angry with their football club for not saying no and also angry that their club has taken them for granted for years and put other clubs fans both Celtic and Rangers first before their own supporters many who had followed Kilmarnock for decades. Its all about the money before the supporters. Its not the supporters fault their club choose to distance themselves from them and regard them as nothing but spectators and customers. Its not a stick to beat the Killie fans about the head with, we all felt the same way during the summer 2012.
That's my say on it, now back on topic...please.
I agree with you. We only came out after Aberdeen & Dundee Utd spoke out. In terms of the 11 clubs outwith Rangers, we were one of the first in that case.
I was disappointed with my board in not leading the way & have to give great credit to Aberdeen & Utd for how they stood strong on this front. Even now the Celtic board continue to disappoint. I'm not beating a Killie fan with that stick though. Just saying it as it is. Their club were the biggest shitebags during that period & our fans haven't forgotten it. No doubt if we can clinch a title there though, many will put their moral stance to the side.
Right get back on track....I'm a wee bit of a stadium lover too lol.0 -
Davie, The reason other Clubs fans don't wish Celtic well in the UCL is because the £20-30m they receive for qualifying further desbilises our domestic league. Celtic not qualifying the last few years has pulled them back to the rest of the pack and made for a tighter league. Were you cheering Rangers on in Europe in the late 90's during their 9IAR?
Celtic & Rangers are different to the rest. A strong Rangers are a match for Celtic and therefor a threat but not being disrespectful here but the reality is that even Hearts & Aberdeen are not a match for Celtic over the course of a season. The past 2 seasons Aberdeen have apparently challenged Celtic & yet we won the league by 17pts & 15pts respectively. That's with us having a poor side and clueless manager. So if they can't do it in those circumstances, is an extra £20-30m going to really change much in the grand scheme of things? Also it means St Johnstone, Motherwell etc are not going to get closer with or without the money either so would it do their fans any harm to wish us well so that they can get the extra money that comes their way as well as the co-efficient points.
Plus if our fans are turning up in good numbers then this will have a knock on affect like we seen at McDairmid recently when we filled both our stands, something we haven't done in a while.-2 -
I see Davie Bhoy is back trying to derail the thread again.
How am I the one derailing it? I'm responding to comments made. Get a grip.Fergus McCann ain't yir mate.
Ssssshhh stop derailing the thread. Although I am a tip top guy
if Davie had his way we would all be showering Celtic in gratitude for being the saviours of all of Scottish football
Nope, just a sensible debate would be nice instead of people adopting their positions & feeling it's beyond them to give credit where it's due. Just look at the European threads as an example. Celtic fans all wishing the other clubs well. Was it reciprocated? Nope...only a very small number of decent posters did. The majority were too spiteful.
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You are being paranoid, which is not a surprise given your team. You are also being liberal with the truth.
We gave Celtic three stands when the won the league at RP. The previous season we refused Rangers 3 stands (although a lot of them bought home end tickets)
Hence why I said I was being hazy with it as I was trying to remember & in no way passing it off as a fact, although you have clearly taken it as a fact.5,000 fans at RP? Ok then, lets look at facts eh?
05/01/2015 - Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 2 (Att 5,329)
12/08/2015 - Kilmarnock 2 Celtic 2 (Att 6,090)
19/03/2016 - Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 1 (Att 6,867)
That's the last 3 games we've played you, last one was when the league was tight against Aberdeen so slightly higher.
I clearly said "about 5000". So that's a ballpoint figure. You have just selected 3 games to suit your argument. If you maybe look at say the last 10-12 games & give our average then you'd get a more accurate reflection.If Celtic take 5,000 to RP regularly, are you seriously saying that a club with 2500+ season ticket holders had less than 1,000 fans at these games?
Again, reminding you I never said an exact 5000 & the fact that according to fans of smaller clubs on here who have at several times in the past said, a lot of their own fans tend to give games against us & Rangers a miss when we play them as they can't bear to be around us...their excuses, not mine...then who knows how many Killie fans are there. Certainly less than the visiting fans.You bring less than 10% of your home support to RP, Motherwell bring about 25% of theirs, Thistle bring about 25-30% of theirs. What is hard to understand about that? I take it you do understand what proportion means?
Yes I do & I think it's a silly way to decide a good or a bad away support. For a start if we were to bring down about 25% of our home support, where would you put us? Secondly is that exactly 25% of Motherwell's support or are you accepting it as "about" unlike how you did with my claim?There's probably 5000 Celtic fans in Killie, there certainly will be in East Ayrshire but they certainly don't attend RP when you play us.
Are they all season ticket holders though. As you know they need to be in order to apply for tickets for away games.Next time you are going to get all defensive about your clubs support, please at least get your facts right.
The next time I'm making any "facts" I will. I was clearly speaking roughly, but you decided to seize on an opportunity to try & get all high & mighty. We bring over 4,000 fans to your stadium. If you want to post a novel arguing over the difference of a few hundred in the past few games, then fair enough.As for bumping the prices up, it won't stop you frothing at the mouth to hand Rangers £49 so don't buy that excuse. Especially when we get charged the same at Parkhead for an inferior view.
Now you're arguing with me...despite me clearly stating I don't agree with that argument that some Celtic fans put forward. Wow! Oh & as a season ticket holder, I personally won't be shelling out £49 for this game & have no issue with any Johnny come lately's from being charged that. Unlike yourselves, I'm glad to see our glory hunters being charged for coming out the woodwork.
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I doubt the Main Stand at Dundee was built as an echelon to give people a better view. I'm not aware of another stand of the vintage which was built like that, in fact I struggle to think of many at all. It follows the line of the road behind. I would imagine this was done to maximise the paddock in front which before it was reconfigured for dog racing was a full terrace?
Was thinking that myself but wasn't 100%. Sure enough I'd have said that then 2 mins later somebody would've presented a 20 page dossier 5 mins later to prove otherwise
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We've won once at Parkhead in 61 years. You can be rest assured that not many of the self proclaimed best fans in the world would attend RP year after year in those circumstances. Celtic can't even sell out one stand at RP despite being only 35-40 minutes down the road and having at least 10x as big a home support as us so proportionately you're support is one of the worst to visit RP.
You know that's not true though. We sell out one stand and there are a thousand or so fans in the other stand with the banners.
Many Celtic fans refuse to go to Rugby Park due to Killie being vocal in their opposition to the The Rangers not being elevated straight into the top flight of Scottish football & eventually when more voices came out in opposition, could still only bring themselves to abstain at best so they could attempt to keep more visiting fans on-side. Plus there is many who are sick of Killie bumping the prices up for our fans (although given our prices are comparable for Killie fans, it's not an argument I agree with). I'm a bit hazy with this but was there not a case of Killie previously handing over a 3rd stand to Rangers but then refusing to do the same for Celtic?
Either way given we roughly bring about 5,000 fans to your place, it's just plain silly to suggest we are one of the worst fans to visit RP, proportionately or otherwise.0 -
Look at this "mate" nicey nice shite.
Absolute cringe, mate.
I'm a nice kinda guy, mate
Contrary to what people on here think.0 -
Not missed a game we've played there in near enough 20 years.
Shame majority of Celtic fans can't say likewise.
Fair play to you then mate. I doff my hat at you. Especially since Killie are one of the poorest travelling supports to Celtic Park and they're only 30-40 mins down the road. So fair play to being one of the few.
I'm also with you on the absent fans on our own side. They do my head in too mate. The same ones who moan about the club not spending money, but who don't turn up to put the money in unless they get the big names signed.0 -
They only have one mob, it's Dundee Utility. A mixture of both sets.
That's what I mean mate. It came about because originally neither side was big enough to stand up to the firms from Glasgow, Edinburgh & Aberdeen so they combined forces. Just curious what they do, if anything when they meet each other. Can never get my head round going to watch your rival team every 2nd week.I didn't realise that.
I always thought it was a novel way to give spectators a better view of both ends of the pitch
I'd been up there a few times and didn't realise that's why it was like that. Only found out a few years ago myself thanks to the wonders of t'internet
Just don't understand why they didn't make it a straight stand.
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Yeah you also pointed out that it only has some seats with a totally shite view and contains a sky box where rich people can watch the game without mixing with the scum.
All top reasons why the average fan should recognise it as superior
I also pointed out it's only some of the seats down that's affected due to the gradient. The back section of the lower tier is ok as is the upper tier. Don't have to be filthy rich to sit in there. I know plenty of working class guys who do.
I'd personally love to see us build a new main stand or carry out work that would do away with the pillars, & any restricted view to home & away fans as well as offer fantastic seats from everywhere in the stand.
No doubt that wouldn't go down well with the away fans who'd need to find a new excuse for not turning up to Paradise.0 -
Just because it has more seats doesn't make it superior ffs
Just one of a few reasons I gave. It's no less a contributing factor though.0 -
Was wondering about Dundee and United being so close. Are their specific "Dundee" and "United" pubs nearby? Or do they all have memorabilia of both or neither teams on the walls?
I've always wondered what their casuals do when they play one another. Remember watching a programme...prob the one with Danny Dyer, & seen that the Casuals from Dundee & Utd realised they were too small when bigger firms came to town so they joined forces & watched whoever was at home that weekend so they had a bigger firm.
What do they do when they face each other? Anyone know?0 -
Davie can you stop getting so fucking defensive over everything Celtic ffs.
What point were you actually trying to make when you said the main stand at Celtic park held more than Caley Thistles ground? Fucking obviously. The entire population of Inverness would only have Celtic Park 3/4 full.
It's not a case of being defensive. It's s forum, people have different opinions. CityDave made S comment saying the main stand at Inverness was superior to the one at Celtic Park. His opinion & fair enough but on an open forum, opinions are there to be challenged are they not? I disagree with most of that opinion & gave my reasons why. I fail to see why you have taken issue with that. Should we just accept every opinion we disagree with. Not sure it's the best way for a forum to work though.0 -
Please read the thread title and understand!!!
If you want to take pot shots at other clubs grounds, could you start your own fuckin' thread for that, ...please??
Don't get yer knickers in a twist. It's not a pot shot & it's in line with the title. Dens isn't my favourite quirk but I've seen plenty of people criticise other grounds on this thread without you spitting the dummy. If you want to pull me up for it then at least be consistent otherwise don't single myself out, ...please??0 -
Another main stand that irritates me is the one at Dens Park. I know it's bends in because it takes the shape of the road outside but why did they feel they had to? Could they not have just built it straight? Just another wee curiosity there.
I know there is talk of Dundee moving & TBH it's not a bad idea as Dens Park is a bit of a dump but it would be disappointing to see an end of the two grounds being on the same street. It's a fantastic wee oddity.-2 -
I find that 'weird' Main Stand excellent, I nearly always sit in there. You get a very good view of the pitch for a start and plenty of room between seats. Everything is there that you would ask from having a Main Stand, plus there's a bar down the stairs. I would say certainly a superior Main Stand to that at Celtic Park. The temporary stands are not among my favourite stands in Scottish football mainly due to the shallow gradient, its stands you would probably be better of standing. Location, although scenic could have been better thought out but at the time there were limited options for where to build a football stadium and the council were not keen on a stadium being built in or close to the city center. But its out of city center location is no different from many new modern stadiums these days.
I've never been in it so I'm not knocking it for practicality, just for the look of it alone. I just don't like a part of it being covered then both wings of it, uncovered.
I disagree that it is superior to the main stand at Celtic Park. That's just a crazy comment. Given that the main stand at Celtic Park can accommodate roughly as many fans as the entire Tulloch Caledonian Stadium can, makes it superior already. I agree that 'some' of the seats in our main stand are not great due to the gradient, these are only in some of the front section but about halfway up from the front it is a lot better. The seats in the upper section have no problems at all & offer a fantastic view. So I'd say there are far more good seats in our main stand than is in the main stand at Caley.
Then when you throw in the Sky Box, executive boxes, etc, it makes it a superior man stand. It's all about opinions though.-3 -
Is it the weird men that put you off?
Good spot. Really need to stop expecting the predictive text to sort itself out on here. Will go & edit lol0 -
Inverness stadium would be superb if they had Gayfield'esque terracing around the other 3 sides.
Lovely city but not a stadium I like. That side that is as good as empty then that weird main stand just looks horrid.
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Yes, although nowadays the distinction has effectively ceased to exist... There is an excellent book called "Blinded by the Lights: a History of Night Football in England" which despite the title actually covers the rest of the UK too, and there's a bit about it in there. For whatever reason the drenchlighting idea which as I say seems to have been pushed by a Scottish engineering firm never caught on. Bit like Betamax and VHS, perhaps.
It might be worth a new thread in 'Infowire' but the book has a list of when each Football League club opened their floodlights, and who against. Quite a number were against Scottish clubs... 5 against Hearts (Aston Villa, Blackpool, Bolton, Manchester City, Swansea); 2 against Hibs (Doncaster, Leeds); 2 against Dundee (Doncaster, Sunderland); and a few which seem surprisingly unglamorous - 1 against Queen of the South (Coventry); 1 against St Mirren (Rochdale); and 1 against Falkirk (Walsall).
Accrington Stanley hanselled theirs against East Fife!
Here are a few I know of definitely:
Stenhousemuir (first in SFL)
friendly v Hibs, 7th November 1951
Leith Athletic
East XI v West XI, 13th January 1953
(involving Leith) friendly v Dunfermline, 10th March 1953
Rangers
friendly v Arsenal, 8th December 1953
Hibernian
friendly v Hearts, 18th October 1954
Partick Thistle
friendly v Spurs, 14th November 1955
Heart of Midlothian
friendly v Hibs, 7th October 1957
Celtic
friendly v Wolves, 10th December 1959
Queen's Park / Hampden
friendly, Rangers v Eintracht Frankfurt, 17th October 1961
Stirling Albion
friendly v Birmingham City, 27th November 1961
Brechin City
League Cup tie v Hibs, 30th August 1978
Alloa Athletic
League Cup tie v Kilmarnock, 22nd August 1979
Stranraer (last in SFL)
League Cup tie v Albion Rovers, 19th August 1981
An interesting piece on Celtic's old floodlights.
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/page/Celtic+Park+-+The+Floodlights0 -
Talking of the old floodlights got me back thinking about the old Celtic Park floodlights. Used to love them & could see them from miles around. Loved seeing them lit up in the Sky as a wee boy from my area just 2 miles away & could actually hear the songs & cheers of goals being scored from there.
Got me wondering if they were the tallest floodlights in Scotland. Certainly looked like it, although Hampden might well be a contender.
Anyone of the stadium geeks know?
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Is that top picture not a recent pic of Ibrox just now
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You can draw a straight line between Celtic Park, Shawfield and Hampden, not a lot of people know that.
I certainly didn't. Can also see the floodlights of the new National Hockey Arena from my seat. Those floodlights threw me for a bit trying to work out what it was.1
Favourite quirks of Scottish stadiums.
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I was talking about Caley Thistles stand. It was CityDave you brought the Celtic main stand into it & I merely replied.
Apparently it's my fault for not ignoring or agreeing with an opinion. Modern day forums eh!