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A cunning plan will be announced this week that will see Rangers in the bottom flight next season:-
A Scottish Premier League of 20 Teams
A Scottish Championship of 22 Teams ( Including Rangers )
Three relegated from the SPL at the end of the season. Top two in Championship automatically Promoted. 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th in play - offs for third Promotion spot ( Beginning to sound familiar ) Sky to cover play-offs.
As soon as Rangers make it back to the SPL the cry goes up for League reconstruction and we revert back to a 12 - 10 - 10 -10 format. Simples
Am I a cynic ..... oh, yes
That would still be the best season in years.
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On a more serious note you wonder what brief Longmuir has set the legal advisers
Is it 'What's the majority required to parachute a newco into the First Division?'.
Or is it 'We want to parachute a newco into the First Division on a simple majority, now find us justification for doing this'
It's more likely "how do we avoid a vote entirely". Even a secret ballot would be suicide for any clubs who hadn't previously announced their intentions.
How times change. Wasn't that long ago that Longmuir and Petrie were firmly in the good guy camp. Good luck shifting your £3.50 hot dogs at Easter Road next season, Rod.
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But in this scenario isn't there a high chance SFL clubs... suitably infuriated at such acts of dictatorial abuse... then votes to demote Rangers on the grounds they did Gretna, or alternatively Livingston?
Not without a tsunami of paperwork.
I doubt this is likely anyway. We've already seen the SFA's contingency plan: an SPL2 consisting of Cowdenbeath, Sevco (Scotland) and whichever other seaside / basement league teams have the chairmen with the weakest bladders.
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Before I start, let me say that Virgin Trains's Glasgow-London service's free wifi is fucking horrific. One of the few times in my life I've actually wanted to listen of Off the Ball and I've had no chance.
Surely if gate money was to be split in any fashion it would be based on match ticket sales for that game alone and not from the season tickets.
It sounds like a convenient compromise. It offsets the direct impact of gate splits for the likes of Celtic (with capacities over twice that of every other team in the league) while ensuring that Celtic season holders can feel good about themselves when visiting away grounds. Everyone else benefits across the board.
Up to a point. The discount on walk up could be under a ton. Next season our crowds will dip, but half of say 40,000 one week, and maybe 9,000 the next, is still less than keeping the whole 40,000 every 2 weeks.
Not sure if I get you. I'm talking about *you personally*, attending every away game while having a home season, rather than every Celtic season holder, as plainly they can't all go to away games. Presently, *your* impact on Celtic's gate revenue is capped the minute your season form is processed. It will always be less than the walk-up fee for attending every home game (not to mention the frees). If sharing were in place, then so long as the total price that you spend on away tickets exceeds what your season costs, your impact on Celtic's revenue is a net positive.
Fans who don't go to away games will only be worth 50% of their previous revenue to CFC. But you're not one of them.
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What, my 620 quid should comprise of £310 to my club, and £310 spread around other clubs? I already pay every fortnight to other clubs.
Ummm. If you attend away games, then presently those teams get 100% of your gate. If gates were shared, Celtic would get half that back. Given that you've a Parkhead season ticket, and hence a hefty discount on the walk-up fee over the course of a season, you'd end up seeing significantly more of your hard-earned going to your own club than at present (where they get the whole of your discounted season seat, and nothing every second week).
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Given servco are not going to be in the SPL next season I'd hope that Celtic would be at the forefront of suggesting a more equitable share of available monies rather than getting dragged screaming to it. IF servco are elected to division 3 then I'd honestly like to see some form of payment to the visiting league team to Celtic park. We'll all have to cut our cloth, we have much more cloth than the rest.
I honestly hope that Celtic can build better relationships with other clubs, as the song says it's now or never
This is getting a greeny once mine have refreshed. It is indeed true that if (and this is still a big if) the stitchup fails and there's no quick return to the status quo at the top table, Celtic would be very much better off trying to make friends quickly than being the lone dissenting voice against future diddy reforms.
Naw - C4 would be better off sending him back to Syria or Afghanistan - he simply couldn't cut the mustard up here trying to get to the bottom of the Rangers' corruption. Just my opinion.
Aye, because that's much easier work. You're a fucking idiot.
The two can't really be compared tho, the NFL is run on its socialist model and that only works because it's a closed shop and no one else in the world plays that game, it could never be done with a global sport like the fitbaw
Not sure if serious.
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I see the Record is running a Third Lanark story today. Wonder why that is.
Also still going with the "...are expected to play in the First Division next season" line. Aye, by a group of alcoholics who have been wrong about every single part of this story so far.
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Does anybody have an argument as to why a gate money split *isn't* a viable option?
It discourages stadium capacity upgrades, as every new seat benefits the opposition as much as the home team (the not-actual reason). It would also significantly reduce the overall gate revenue for the Old Firm (the actual reason).
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Not really. The term SevcoFC or Sevco or Sevco 5088 is really only known to those who hang around on football message boards. The rest of the world have a life.
The words "fourteen years old", "basement" and "parents' laptops" come to mind.
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So say only three clubs vote yes. Do they f**k off into a four team SPL2 with Newco?
Of course. "The product" cares not for such things as sense, only for having Lee Wallace on the telly.
More interesting would be if 14 teams voted for it. Have fun working out your fixture list for a 14-team SPL2 two weeks before the season kicks off.
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Where are the thread police to get self-righteous about how the topic is the avoidance of £120m of PAYE and not the avoidance of a £60 fine?
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I work for the Crown
I imagine this to be a Game of Thrones line.
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This sounds sad as f**k, but can people who are more knowledgable and articulate than me please start bombarding UEFA with e-mails?
To do what? It's not as if Serie A's perma-corruption has seen UEFA chuck them out of Europe. I dare say that most of UEFA would very much rather the Scottish game died entirely and with that our undue weight at the game's top table.
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Just in case it hasn't been posted before.
All very well, but unless Cowdensash's vote counts for 15 they're not exactly getting early evidence that 50% will actually vote for it, are they?
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The new Rangers are not yet an affiliated football club. That doesn't stop them employing people as footballers. You don't have to be a football club to employ people as footballers. RBS could give Steven Naismith a contract as a footballer tomorrow if they wanted.
Surely they can't register him as a footballer, though?
You haven't seen the size of big Lachlan's hands though. Don't jump to conclusions without the facts.
Not to mention that a "handful of emails" could very well mean "as many as will fit on an iPhone".
Has Elvis had a wee change of heart...
Pressley has been entirely consistent throughout. He's perfectly happy to have the newco in the second tier if it gets him his personal laundry list of reforms. The only question is whether Operation Blackmail ticks enough boxes.
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STV suggests that this was something cooked up by Doncaster, Regan and Longmuir and simply dished out to the clubs today. No indication they were involved. This looks like a last-ditch offer. The only worrying thing here is the mention of Petrie, who is the last person who should be backing down.
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So what happens then? Do the likes of Spartans or Cove Rangers join the league, and if so, where does that leave Sevco5088? Taking a sabbatical year?
As Craigkillie has pointed out, in the event of an invitation being opened *someone* has to be voted in. Right now the biggest problem facing Those-That-Would-Be-Rangers is that Green may very well simply have no interest in trying, which means they may not have a ground. One is going to have a hard time convincing even the average Mirror Group reader that one is the rightful heir to The Biggest Trophy Haul of Them All if one does not actually play at Ibrox. But you can't imagine the SFL allowing the Third to go a team short.
Spartans' position, so far as I know, is that they won't apply for an opening if "Rangers" do. But if this gets any worse, there may well be no "Rangers" applying at all. Should that happen, I dare say that P&B members would be well advised to rapidly invest in Ben & Jerry's, or failing that Iceland and Farmfoods.
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If Brown get's his hands on the keys, who's the next "legend" to turn up and take over claiming to be the messiah?
It surely has to be Gascoigne. Nothing says "the limit of absurdity has been reached" these days like the appearance of Gascoigne.
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Sorry to see you getting red dots though for expressing a genuinely held view.
It's relatively hard for anyone who doesn't post with his trousers around his ankles to get a negative karma around here. Folk with Rangers as their clubs aren't getting it especially hard on here. You're being fished.
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Amorous, Hough
Autocorrect, how we love thee.
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I still don't think Green's an asset stripper. It would take a man with some balls to strip away the assets of a club with a fanbase that has a core of bigotry, violence and hated. He'd be a dead man walking.
what
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We have had the Arab spring around some countries, now Scotland it seems is having its own Arab spring with revolution within the Scottish game?
would be cool, especially when the dark side are destroyed, peace and balance will come to our little islandNot to put a dampener on things, but I'd be pretty cautious throwing around "Arab Spring" when it comes to all this. Libya, Egypt and Syria are not exactly peaceful and balanced right now, unless you're David Cameron. Should Rangers actually experience the true death (and there are certainly more overtones of the fall of Berlin today) everyone needs to rapidly get over the backslapping and get ready for a bumpy ride for quite some time.
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the most sensible solution for the dundee/dunfermline problem would be (Cosgroves idea) to have them play a 2 legged playoff
The most sensible solution would be to promote Dundee. What's the fucking point of bleating on about sporting integrity for two months and then not having a team in the SPL relegated (again)? Dunfermline are, by the rules of the organisations in question, already an SFL side. It's done. If the Dee are going up only to get rogered then so be it; they'd at least hopefully turn a profit given that they'd budgeted for the First.
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One thing that comes across from the RTC blog is the seemingly large number of literate, intelligent Celtic fans. Then you look at that forum and wonder where is the blue equivalent.
Local and national government, the police force, major industry. or so it goes.
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Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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He's right, you're wrong. Regardless of whether Celtic's silence is about tacit support for the newco or simply to avoid tabloid criticism, CFC are undoubtedly doing everything in their power to get some entity that could be described as "Rangers" back in the SPL as soon as possible. There's simply no avoiding that at all. For f**k's sake stop digging, you fucking cretins.