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2 hours ago, Darvel legend said:
I don’t know the manager but what a job he’s done with the rug pulled from Him halfway through the season to be if he won the Scottish the most successful manager in Darvel’s history , it actually beggars belief
How can winning the junior cup now in 2024 make him the most successful darvel manager ever ? Mick Kennedy is your most successful manager ever as it's harder to win the wosfl than a cup!
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30 minutes ago, Casper Wilson said:
More - "Not true but I'll make it up anyway' pish.
Need to keep the chip on the shoulder salted.
We will soon find out if it's true or not ? Hopefully I am talking pish and making things up !
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17 minutes ago, glensmad said:
Not that I'm aware of.
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As I've been told not to spoil the junior cup thread and move over here .
Why does the pro junior West club's need to press gang the club's who wish not to enter the junior cup by putting a motion forward at the AGM to make it mandatory that every wosfl must play in the junior cup?
What do they hope to achieve by this ? All it's going to do is cause unrest between club's and fans and all the good work the wosfl have done in its short history will quickly turn sour and we will end up back to where we were just before the old West region juniors folded a region full of infighting amongst club's which is not good for anyone going forward.
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7 hours ago, allyg1977 said:
So u tell people talbot the only team to win the cup 3 times in a row twice which no other team has done or will do how's that cause we did that before and after the millennium so history before and after
I'm not trying to erase history great at the time talbot won it 3 in a row or any other time they won it the same goes for every club that's ever won it. The problem we have here is why does talbot and all the other West pro junior cup club's want to make it mandatory for all West region club's to play in the junior cup . According to you and plenty others on here it's so wonderful but you have to press gang other's in the hope it boosts its popularity?.
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2 minutes ago, Shanner said:
Yes, having an engaging history based on generational affection is a massive drawback. Nothing worse!
Fucking hell.
Oh dear
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19 minutes ago, Darvel legend said:
Bullshit all our parents have mostly passed away unfortunately but ask them what trophy they would loved to have won and to a man they would have said the Scottish junior cup
And there lies the problem ! It's 2024 not pre millennium most of us are trying to brace the new not sit around the coal fire telling our kids how it used to be and lying to them it's still wonderful winning the junior cup and it's live on the telly with a language no one speaks .
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14 minutes ago, santheman said:
So what's your idea of democracy.
Letting a minority dictate to the majority.
I always thought it was the other way around, silly me.
The sjfa can't take control of the wosl even if 70 of the 80 clubs vote to go back under their control they would need to start up a new league with a new name and start from scratch just like the wosfl had to do and any assets or monies that were left from the West region juniors belonged to the sjfa? So if 70 clubs vote to leave the wosfl they leave with nothing and the 10 remaining clubs then continue as. The new sjfa West league would no longer be part of the pyramid.
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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Not really sure the Junior Cup could be made mandatory without fundamentally changing the competition. Right now its a cup open to members that pay fees or guests who pay a fee.
I'd say the SCC has been quite transparent about the fact it doesn't have a pot to piss in. Originally, the home teams kept the gate until the final where the competition committee took everything. Which is how they would fund the travel expenses. That was changed to a 50/50 split after match official costs and then still take everything from the final.
The Junior Cup had its old guarantee model that it was losing money on, that took a third from the semis and final. Which has seen the switch to prize money, bringing back two-legged semi-finals, taking 15% from every game now, and 60% from semi-finals, who knows what from the final. Its still to be seen if they're onto a money loser. The course correction then is either lowering prize money or gouging participants for more money. Its a situation that's only really tenable due to whatever cash reserves the SJFA has, same with the £400 to every member that complete fixtures the other season.
I've got to agree with you I don t think you could force teams to play in another associations cup as the wosfl operates in the pyramid system under the sfa so I think they would have a say if this was a rule and also they have licenced member clubs within the west. If Alex were to get voted in as chairman which he or any person has a right to be put forward I don t think this plan if true will be forceful. If the West club's voted to go back under the sjfa banner for the West leagues then in my opinion they would need to form a new breakaway league as the wosfl belongs to the sfa within the pyramid system and any new West league under the sjfa would not be recognised by the sfa therefore it would not be part of the pyramid.
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Just now, GIRUU said:
I don’t understand that either. Someone who has went power mad in the juniors, doesn’t like the wos, but now wants to join the board? Something doesn’t smell right and can’t be for the good of all clubs.
The plan he has is he has been going around pro_ junior cup club's get them to propose him for chairman and that's what's now happening then once he gets voted in as most of the West club's are pro_ junior cup and care more about that cup than the league they represent? Then gets the club's to vote that all club's in the West MUST play in the joonyur cup to boost its flagging numbers and finances because he cares about nothing else .As for Alex he is reading this now as his user name is obvious on here and on this thread.
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2 hours ago, BANKIEBILL said:
And the SJFA - with the 60% take from each of the semis - are not exactly diminishing the pile.
Old school sjfa back to their old tricks trying to boost their dwindling bank balance . An example of this was we went to a semi final at love street over 8 thousand fans club gets 5k sjfa pockets the rest. As for the sjfa and there big bank balance remember where all this money came from it was generated from every junior club that ever existed and a few of them no longer exist and what help did the glorious sjfa do for them to stay afloat zero but they took their membership fee each year from them, fined them for bookings ,paid them for reinstatement for players who weren't juniors and let's not forget all the club's who had to give them their cut from their gates where some small club's who only had £150 at best through the gate and if it's a team from the North you were having to give the over £300 from your £150 gate ! Fans from the bigger clubs clearly have no clue what's going on at the other end of the money train in order for them to get their big prize money at the end of the tournament remember where it came from!
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1 hour ago, jimbaxters said:
Would agree with that but watch the attendance figures for the upcoming semis and final. The fans who turn up aren't doing so for the prize money.
The attendance for each semi final won't be over 2000 at any of the games the biggest will be the home tie at beechwood a shadow of a crowd from the past .
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If the sjfa never had a big bank balance and didn't pay out the prize money that they do no one would care about the cup and it would just be history like all the other local cups we used to play for.
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37 minutes ago, PossilYM said:
Exactly what happened when the West Juniors moved to set up the Wosfl?
Did nobody think to ask the question, what will happen if a non licensed club win the league?
What would happen if Beith say won 9 in a row and never bothered to apply for a licence?
I can agree with the first part the reason the wosfl was set up was to be part of the pyramid and all club's who joined the wosfl should be committed to the process of being promoted to the lowland league and beyond.
Dont think the wosfl have anything to be embarrassed about beith are there on merit as they have been the most consistent team over the season.
Going forward who knows what beith and other club's plans are for their sfa licence I'm sure they see the benefits of having one it takes time and money to achieve .
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3 minutes ago, Kennie said:
There WILL be.
Lessons have been learned and as I said they agreed at the recent General Meeting to accept that there needs to be midweek games at the start.
You were asked about why no midweek games a few weeks ago for teams who have games in hand and we were told you wanted to give teams free midweek to prepare for cup games on a Saturday and now we find buffs and talbot have two midweek games before a semi final cup tie ? So what changed your mind there!
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6 hours ago, Ben10 said:
Gid at the rules Hiy!
This yin I’m informed signed a boy who cost the Kiwinnin 19 pints in wan season.
hawf wit.
And that's joonyur football in all its great glorious history and that's how it's no longer there
As for the 19 points the Secretary who I trusted at the time signed him.
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1 minute ago, edinabear said:
Why do auchinleck and kilwinning still have half a season to play in 2/3 months?
Dont go there mate
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Talbot are tier six not the spl they dont need to go to the sfa for an emergency permission to sign a keeper because sparky was cup tied for the South challenge they then had to sign another keeper who wasn't cup tied and for some reason they missed that he had played for clydebank in the early rounds.
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3 hours ago, BigAftonBear said:
Have a look for yourself. Talbot and darvel fans with a few more teams fans (all coincidentally are out) claiming it's lost the magic etc.
It's clearly lost it's magic like a of of things you will be one of these guys still driving a Ford cortina and try to convince everyone it's still the best car out there!
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When you chat to other clubs it used to be not for us we can't afford it now you are seeing club's all of a sudden putting lights up and more now saying they are proactive trying to get the funding in place so it is more promising than we think .
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Just now, wow-wee said:
Troon and hoping once funding in place beith will be going for theirs next season
Also Rob Roy next season if and when they move ? When chatting to the guys at hurlford they are also planning for the following season so that should give the West a good amount
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11 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
Definitely not. If you understand all the workings of each of the clubs in the West Premier and let just say the First division, many wont or cant get their SFA license for a while or some don't have the capability of getting it for different reasons, well not in the near future. I don't think the East did that, I'm sure of it, and how many have their SFA license in the EOSFL Premier and First division ? Anyone know. I'm sure the next WOSFL looking for their license is Gartcairn and Glenafton unless they have already been approve
Troon and hoping once funding in place beith will be going for theirs next season
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8 minutes ago, Thejackdaw said:
I think that being promoted just now would be a bit of a downgrade, our top division is far stronger than the LL and crowd wise what would we be getting in the LL as opposed to playing your Clydebank, buffs, Talbot's and polloks , plus loads more travel and often to dreaded astro turf community grounds.
In say 15 years when lots of our clubs move to the LL it will be strong but the current West premier is real deal and Curry wise we are a restaurant and the LL is a 1980s boil in the bag effort
100% agree on everything you say but someone has to start the progression of teams going I would like the buffs to go soon as but we're t the wrong end of the table for that to happen.
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If beith win the league them they will get all the same plaudits as any other team being licensed doesn't give you the right to finish top to go into a play off . Looking from the outside of makes us in the West look poor that we still won't have any of our teams moving up the pyramid where in the east apart from linlithgow all their top teams have now got out of tier 6 . Some fans in the West dont want their teams to go up because the way the West league is and most want to wait until it suits them to go when the West tier 6 becomes weaker but reading on here and talking to others it seems to be an East Ayrshire thing that( we dont want to go up ! ) they seem happy with the status quo and the junior cup .
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Can't agree a league is always the biggest prize for any manager.