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Just now, Bairn Necessities said:
I meant Hartley but if you want to own up.....
Maybe I am Hartley?
Nah, not really. By the time he was shitcanned I was as done with him as anyone else.
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Just now, Bairn Necessities said:
There's actually some decent stuff in there . Some laugh out loud stuff as well (Some fans were asking why Paul Hartley did nt get more time" Were they f**k. Unless their addresses were in Dundee.
Hiya buddy.
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20 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:
Again we have not been stuck in the championship for the past 10 years because we had an academy for christs sake. We are in this league still due to god awful recruitment of players to play alongside our academy players like kingsley and mcgrandles etc. Funnily enough we now dont have an academy and our recruitment is still shite and now we're even further away from. promotion than we were in all the years we had an academy.
I think the point was made to let people know that although players that came through the academy were sold for money, most of that money was used to pay for the academy.
Second place or ninth is the same with regards to getting up in this league. We'd all rather be second, don't get me wrong, but it still didn't get us up.
10 minutes ago, AL-FFC said:On a plus point Morton supporters can calm the f**k down now knowing they got 50k compensation and there was a release clause in McKinnons contract.
Morton haven't been paid anything, the compo was for the hairy tramp.
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8 minutes ago, Branch Ton said:
Putting trust in your Chair not to screw up a legal issue only makes sense if your Chair actually had sight of McKinnon’s contract with Morton before she made the approach. So she either went in blind or there was prior clandestine contact. Which is it?
Clandestine, aye? How do you know that it wasn't your own chairman that let it slip and he's now feverishly back pedaling to cover his arse. Or someone else at the club that called us? And is it actually illegal for an employee of a club to discuss the contract he has signed, unless there is some sort of non disclosure agreement around it?
You simply don't know what happened. None of us do, and the silence from Cappielow is becoming deafening.
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I'll happily call bollocks on the whole thing until Peat names names. This is press distraction from all the ex Rangers players that are away to get reamed from the taxman. It's a random fucking thing for anyone to suddenly give a shit about, unless there's an agenda behind it.
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To be fair, Branch Ton would wind himself up in an empty room.
I know, I'm one to talk. #headsgone.
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On 23/07/2018 at 19:38, Drew Brees said:
Let it go man, 26yrs of hurt.
We'll let it go when you all stop on about the potato famine. And the other lit forget about the boyne.
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We had a great plan, then for some reason the board left it in the hands of this fella and fucked off for the summer.
Unconfirmed rumours that Ray has been seen running around with a pair of pants on his head and pencils up his nose.
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2 minutes ago, MrDust said:
4 or 5 right backs in there !!!
Left back incoming!
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3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:
Think a problem we'd have there is that St Mirren will be looking to bring in couple of free agents after a similar failed experiment with Jamie Vardy Academy duds. They're a more attractive prospect just now.
Irvine, Quinn, Ross, Smith and Woods are potentially realistic options. Right back has to be the priority.
I'd take Scott MacDonald as well btw, he could still do enough of a turn for one more year.
We could get an entire defence out of that list. Shame we can't to them as a swap deal
MacDonald would be a great signing. We'd get 60 Minutes out him then bring on Froxylias for the last half hour.
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8 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:
List of players from twitter who are still free agents.
https://twitter.com/Nareystoepoker/status/1042427223763038208?s=19
I'll take every one of them. Which is a sad I dictment of our recruitment.
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23 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:
Regardless, it’s gone for the foreseeable future, and what has replaced it (a new results focussed first team squad), is calamitous.
It all boils down to decision making, and while there is no blueprint that guarantees promotion at a single bound, the numerous errors of judgement have to bring into question the competency amongst the MSG, and the people they appoint to deliver success on the football field.
Ultimately, they own the club, and if they choose to continue to blunder around with new initiatives and hand those initiatives to people that are clearly way out of their depth, then what we have experienced is what you are going to get over and over again.
Our CEO got his fingers burned badly on the crest copyright fiasco, and then chose to be the chest beating front runner of the “Mitch” clusterfeck, yet it doesn’t seem to have damaged him at all in the eyes of the MSG. To your average fan who takes an interest beyond simply attending on a Saturday, he has long since been written off as another George Craig in a different shirt and tie.
He was also heavily involved beating the drum wrt communication, but now has chosen (or more likely been instructed) to shut the f*ck up about anything that isn’t partner, community or charity related.
I reckon we should replace the entire board with a tombola machine full of random management ideas. At the end of each season, we pull out enough balls to make a mission statement, and that is what we go with the next 12 months.
We might end up replacing all match day staff with squirrels and only playing players older than 40. But it's a more coherent vision than we are likely to get.
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2 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
Aye, after all there's only two formations isn't there? Absolutely only one way to set up in each formation aswell.
We'll, to be fair, 352 is a 532 with a slightly different set up. A 4321 is a slightly different 4231 or 451.
Point still stands, if you've tried both of those, and played around with them, then you've tried at least 6 different formations and set ups.
So if it's not the formations and the players are OK..?
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2 hours ago, DAFC. said:
Read my post closely. Formation that suit the players.
If you've tried all the formations, then it's not the formation that's the issue.
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2 minutes ago, Factoids said:
Commonly known as the "Brentford Model".
Currently being applied at Rangers, apparently.
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9 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:
With respect, that's absolute bollocks. I say that as a (hopefully) competent lawyer. Parties talk shit about each other all the time before, during and after cases without it having any impact on the proceedings.
That being said, Morton are very unlikely to have any sort of claim against Falkirk anyway. Falkirk may (depending on what actually occurred) have breached SFA/SPFL rules regarding inducing an employee of another member club to breach his contract but that's a matter between Falkirk and the SFA/SPFL. Nothing to do with Morton. Morton can submit a complaint to the beaks and hope that Falkirk get hammered but it won't benefit them. Their claim lies against McKinnon for breaching his contract (if that's what he did - again, that depends on what actually occurred).
That's not to say that there might not be money changing hands between the clubs but if there is it will be because Falkirk are paying on behalf of McKinnon for his breach, not because they have any obligation to Morton. Same thing happened with United and Jobby many moons ago. Falkirk had a good old grumble about United but no substantive claim. Their claim was against McCall. Eventually everyone saw sense and United paid over the odds for Collin Samuel on the understanding that Falkirk would drop any claim they had against McCall - or so the story goes.
Don't be bringing rational statements in here, this is a football forum. Thank for actually bringing a sensible answer in, not that it will deter any Morton fan.
Rae has probably shut up after taking legal advice. Or he's realised he made an utter fanny of himself.
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2 minutes ago, Branch Ton said:
It’s sub judas sy.
It's probably not, given that your chairman has publicly stated what he thinks the outcome will be. Given the public statements he's made, any competent lawyer would get a case tossed before it made it to a judge.
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6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
Ehhh.... Abnormally excited for a Falkirk game over a month away, where no doubt the Snake factor will swell your crowd possibly into the thousand, and where the aforementioned seethe will underpin it all.
Aye nae bor m8. Not bothered one bit.
Have you considered what you will do if we turn you over? If your wee broken heart doesnt get the closure it needs?
There's nothing else happening in their part of the world. It's really that simple.
6 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:Nobody is saying this anywhere.
It's been implied, if not outright stated in regards to Sammut being at Chelsea. He's not going to play in the first team, so he's surely just filling a jersey, yes?
And the boy that's gone to Rangers. Until such time as he's in someone's first team, we don't know what he's doing. He may or may not have a great future. I said that he may well have been in the reserve team to fill a jersey because of injuries, instead of merit. I got shot down for it, but I've yet to see anyone prove the contrary.
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43 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:
It proves one thing that you will twist things to suit your argument. People can’t bitch about no players coming through than dizzy lads who were in our academy but have moved to bigger clubs. In the case of the lad Maxwell at least three scouts and coaches in the academy have told me independently that he was better than Dunne. As quick but technically better. We have to remember our first team was pretty much outplayed by Rangers U21 side a few weeks ago. That team was full of Rangers kids of 17 and 18. Many may not make the top standard at Rangers but the leagues are full of kids who have come through the academies of Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen and the likes.
Shutting the Academy was wrong for the long term future of our club IMO.That's is a priceless statement from you. Really is.
Bizarre that youth coaches responsible for coaching a player would feel that he was a great player. Really is. Wouldn't at all be putting the boot into the club that binned them.
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1 hour ago, Marshmallo said:
I can't do this
Silly me, keep forgetting that every academy in the land is only filled with players of the highest caliber. Nobody gets released and there's never any wastage or players hanging around riding out contracts. We've never moved players around to fill a jersey, and neither has anyone else.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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1 hour ago, Shodwall cat said:
No whataboutery at all. I saw him play on a number of occasions and the boys a fantastic talent which is why a number of clubs were chasing him when we decided to just let him go. But as I said never mind we've got Tom Owen Evans and Dan Turner so that makes up for it anyhow.
Good for you. Not say g it was a great decision. But it's done now. Was poo ting out that the hooha over him playing a reserve game has been blown way out of proportion. Christ, even when we had a good academy squad, half the players who played reserve football were average at best.
1 hour ago, Shodwall cat said:I think the bod have fucked us far more than we've fucked them.
Yeah. Again, was my point. Look at our current mess. We should be chasing them over the state of the first team, not distracting ourselves over what an academy player may or may not achieve.
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49 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:
I doubt a club the size of Rangers sign players "to fill out squads". There's nothing to say he'll play for Scotland or anything but to suggest they struggle for numbers is baffling.
Of course they do. Are you suggesting they run with an academy of 14 players and drop reserve players down to make up the numbers?
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3 minutes ago, Branch Ton said:
Your evidence for this is what exactly?
You might like to brush up on your use of pronouns and put down the lighter fuel before you draft a reply.
Your chairman has what evidence that we induced Ray to break his contract? To get compensation from Falkirk, that will have to be proven. Even then, there won't be points deducted.
You're pretty much becoming a fixture here. Nobody wants you here though. A bit like the Morton thread. And every other thread.
And no, I'm neither angry nor raging. My heads not gone either. You however, are tedious beyond words.
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1 hour ago, Shodwall cat said:
Have you actually seen him play?
Nice bit of whataboutery there.
1 hour ago, Back Post Misses said:
He left our Academy, Rangers gave him a 2 year contract and he made his debut for the reserves yesterday. Doesn’t sound like jersey filling to meWas does that prove? How many academy players do clubs the size of Rangers have? They need a set number of players to fill out squads, training sessions and the like. The fact he is an academy player means they feel he might have promise.
Can't believe after everyone saying that Sammut is a jersey filler at Chelsea, we've now gone the other way and are saying this guy is great because he's got a jersey at the Rangers academy and has played a reserve game.
If he makes a lot of appearances, and gets on the bench for a league game or goes out on loan, u til then there's literally nothing to see other than a club signing a young player to fill a roster spot in a youth team. Has it occurred to anyone that he was likely filling a jersey due to injury or similar, or are we just off on another f**k the board rampage.?
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The Falkirk FC Thread
in Scottish League 1 General Chatter
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What was the cost breakdown between the academy and the dev team, not seeing/seen that anywhere?