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Christian following his grand tradition of only feuding with people who he can berate for their Da being dead. Extra touch to it this time though - the address he gave during his promo? A graveyard. Ooft.
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I assumed they'd fucked up with that Boston announcement (fucked it up is obviously pretty strong, I'm sure it was absolutely intentional, even if I will always disagree about teasing surprises) by showing the Boss part in the background and basically telegraphing that fka Sasha Banks was going to debut, but would the boss stuff not be one of those WWE only things? Either that or Bruce Springsteen is finally making his long awaited debut in the ring
If ever you want to see how best to use blood for the image it'll bring, watch the ending there. The blood on the white suits is such an effective image compared to how it's previously been used in AEW.
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As someone who won't be travelling so not needing to hope for good away trips, Croatia, Hungary and Poland I guess. Although to be honest, there's not too many combinations where we'd be expected to do much. Avoiding relegation would be a massive achievement.
Shame we can't go Friends Across the Euros and draw Germany, Hungary and Switzerland again. I'd settle for Hungary and Switzerland though, so we can pump them again.
10 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:Somehow, we'll end up with Israel again.
Are any of the matches scheduled before the Euro finals?
It'll be in the Autumn, September, October, November windows I'd imagine, with the World Cup Qualifiers beginning in the Spring through to the next Autumn.
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On 03/02/2024 at 14:28, forameus said:
Will it though? Rock vs Roman is going to be an absolutely over match, built for all those tedious "stop-and-slowly-pan-to-the-crowd" looks and probably with about 5 minutes of actual action if we're lucky, but it is going to be massively over unless they completely f**k the booking. I don't get the feeling like this will go the way that Batista vs Orton did before Bryan got put in, for example. I don't think there even would be a modern equivalent of that now, as Reigns is far more over than Orton was back then. Maybe Orton now going in? a fine match on paper, but nowhere near as good as Rhodes vs Reigns would be.
At the risk of answering my own post...aye, it kind of will. People are fucking raging.
However, given how this has blown up, and how WWE seem to be sticking their fingers in their ears so much, I wonder if this is all just a big work, or at least that they're already moving on the path to the "Bryan Protocol". We're going into a WM that ends in 0, and it seems like their default setting for one of those appears to be "have a triple threat". They kind of lucked into the WM30 story, as I don't believe for a second that they intended it to play out that way until the last few weeks before the event, but it just worked out so incredibly well for them that I wonder if they're testing the waters to do it again. Granted, I think it's an arse backwards way of going about it, and the resulting match would be a much worse version of what they could have had, but I could see them making it a triple threat, and sending Rock out there knowing that Cody will be the overwhelming face and Reigns the overwhelming heel. And unlike Batista at 30, Rock wouldn't go in a massive huff to be the baddy (maybe, he has built the sacharine, sanitised brand in cinema, but wonder whether wrestling would be the one place he'd be happy to turn up the charisma and be an arsehole again).
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Given the dirtsheets seem to be pinning all of this on Punk getting injured, saw a good wee rundown on Reddit of how this is all Christian's fault.
He turned on Jungle Boy, and that feud ended up leading towards the latter getting tired of being the face everyone cheered for, turning him into Jack Perry. This eventually led towards the confrontation with Punk over "real glass", which ultimately led to Punk getting his marching orders. Punk ends up back in the WWE, to get injured in the Royal Rumble, which leads to plans changing, and Rhodes losing his spot. f**k sake Christian, all because his dad's deid...
I suppose you can also argue he did it to himself. If Rhodes hadn't made that little bet with Dave Meltzer, AEW isn't a thing, and Christian likely doesn't come back to WWE in the same capacity, and certainly doesn't turn into the uber-b*****d he is now. Rhodes screwed Rhodes.
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18 hours ago, RuMoore said:
It took me far too long to realise tackling was bashing into folk, spamming r1 usually works too.
Yeah, it's quite an odd control scheme, at least compared to something like FIFA, but quite intuitive once you get the hang of what you're doing. I've accidentally done some decent body checks, and imagine it'll get extremely satisfying when you can start timing them right.
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2 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:
Unless we get Cody/Roman at EC with Rock helping Cody.
Main event at WM will get booed to f**k out of the building.
Will it though? Rock vs Roman is going to be an absolutely over match, built for all those tedious "stop-and-slowly-pan-to-the-crowd" looks and probably with about 5 minutes of actual action if we're lucky, but it is going to be massively over unless they completely f**k the booking. I don't get the feeling like this will go the way that Batista vs Orton did before Bryan got put in, for example. I don't think there even would be a modern equivalent of that now, as Reigns is far more over than Orton was back then. Maybe Orton now going in? a fine match on paper, but nowhere near as good as Rhodes vs Reigns would be.
1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:Literally the only sensible choice would be Cody stepping aside for Rock as he's picking his shot at EC.
Why though?
Because he could reason that completing his story wouldn't be winning the title at Mania, it would be walking into Mania as the champion. The flag bearer. He wants to walk into Wrestlemania as the man. He's the man to take Roman's symbol of power over his family away - Rock is the man to deal the fatal blow and wrest grip of his family back from Reigns as that's something Cody can't do.
That's the literal only way this could be salvaged to even make an iota of sense.
Think that might be where they're going. The "taking everything from you" line seems to point towards that, and it does track with how you imagined the Bloodline stuff would happen with Reigns finally losing his title, then losing everything else after. BUT, I assumed that would happen post-WM with the big title moment happening there. Maybe they genuinely think that because they've picked a big stadium in a new market, that Elimination Chamber can be made into a much bigger deal. And I guess if Rhodes does finally dethrone Reigns there, that is going to be a huge moment for that show, and it gives Reigns 6 weeks to go proper mental in the build-up to a final match against Rock. It gives Rhodes not the chance to take the title at WM, but walk in with it and get a big retention. They can also still say he earned his main event slot at WM from the Royal Rumble, as that's presumably where he'll be (because they'll probably just say there's 8 main events per night or something stupid), but...
...but it's just...a bit w**k, really, isn't it? It was all right there. And in less than a week, they've lost a big component of their WM plans in Punk (not their fault), and then in one tight 20 minute segment, they managed to burn down a story that's been, what, 16 or so months in the making? With a byproduct of making two of their top guys - and a title one of them holds - look like complete gimps. Impressive.
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They've been so sure-footed on storytelling most of the time that you have to imagine there's something else to this. But, in terms of the old story of the good guy beating the bad guy, even if they do get there in the end, they've started it out with the good guy falling down a fucking well. I tried to put out some logical direction they were going based on just this promo, but there's just nothing. at this point it's just a massive, massive own goal, and one that not even company man Cody Rhodes could sell for the entire segment. Either his clear squirming discomfort is a subtle part of whatever story they think they're trying to tell, or he just couldn't hold it in any longer, because he looked like he wanted to be anywhere else towards the end.
There's also the more unsavoury note to it that Rock is taking a massive risk with this. I thought that once the Vince stuff broke, big Dwayne would be massively distancing himself as much as he could from the company publicly. The dirtsheets seem to be pointing to them using this as a distraction, but I'm really surprised Dwayne Johnson The Brand would jump in at a point where there's a chance this story could grow and swallow more of WWE up.
And all such a shame given that all the hype will overshadow that they've probably built a story with the potential to be one of the greatest ever told in their women's division with Bayley.
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The whole JD Sports deal has been shambolic. Not only is the price of any new top absolutely mental (not a JD problem, to be fair), whenever I have actually wanted to entertain buying one for the wee man, I don't think I've ever actually managed to get one in the right size. Again it's likely not a JD problem, but surely it points to an issue somewhere that someone wants to buy a top, despite the ridiculous prices, yet they can't be arsed actually stocking it reliably enough because there might be a new one in a few months?
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I gave it a go on the trial last night, and...have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm absolutely shite at the game, sitting it at the lowest possible difficulty with the screen looking a mess with all the assists, but it's really good fun. Plenty of stuff to do offline to stop me going online and getting all the enjoyment stomped out of me. I cannot get the hang of defending at all (probably just as much to do with mashing R2 from muscle memory given that was sprint in FIFA), but starting to work things out going forward.
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How are the NHL games? I've obviously done FIFA and have no interest in going back, done Madden in the past, and it was...fine. But getting really into ice hockey, as is my son, so wonder if it could scratch that itch of a pick-up-and-play sporting game without the obvious cynicism EAFC brings. I know they're both EA games, but is the approach any different? If their version of FUT is just as bad, is it worth getting to play the offline modes?
Reading reviews, the main complaint seems to be that it isn't much of an upgrade, but given I've had no experience of the games previously, shouldn't be an issue. Think I get a 10 hour trial with EA Play so maybe give that a shot unless it's a complete mess.
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If he can come back from this one, he needs to be treated as a special attraction and have his appearances limited, and even then it seems like a big risk to both WWE as the paymasters, and Punk as a 45-year-old man who presumably wants to not have a completely fucked body when he finally decides to call it a day.
Still, at least this time he managed not to turn an injury into an opportunity to set everything on fire at a press conference. Although maybe having him do that might not have been the worst thing given what actually happened.
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I will never not see Meltzer as a complete gimp. By all accounts, his wrestling knowledge is extremely strong, and seems like he writes a good article when it calls for it, but he can't seem to contribute beyond that without making himself look like a complete dildo.
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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Meltzer is saying that the Network will be closing down and content moved to Netflix internationally starting next year. How much of the archive that moves across is an unknown at this point.
While I wouldn't usually trust much of what big Dave says when he gets going, this is going to be the big question. Part of what made the Network so brilliant was the wealth of content that it brought, and that you could pretty much drop into any era in WWE (or owned companies) history and watch pretty much anything from it. We saw when Peacock took over that different companies start to have different ideas into what's appropriate, and stuff was censored, but I guess Netflix probably doesn't have too many issues with this given they host stuff worse without much issue. But the question will be whether they're interested in having the whole back catalogue, or whether they're even capable. In pure terms, how big is WWE's catalogue compared to Netflix? I wouldn't imagine they are a whole lot different, but say it's even half the size, would Netflix be able to or want to increase their content immediately by 150%? Obviously more content is better for Netflix selling their product, but it's a lot to add that will likely appeal to a tiny slice of their membership.
To be fair, if they announce that the Network is dead, Netflix is taking over, and Raw, Smackdown, NXT and all PPVs will be live with catch-up and no delay, I'll be delighted. I don't think I've used the Network for anything other than watching the most recent PPV on catch-up for a long time, so to be able to drop that and keep Netflix would definitely suit. If they add even part of the archive, even better.
EDIT: And, like FifeArab said, get right in amongst documentaries. They do far too few of them for how good they are. Get one of those WWE24 ones for every big 4 show, and pepper in a few more if there's a story worth telling.
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Worth noting that it seems like Gibraltar have a manager who is absolutely at it, and only in the job due to friends in the FA. I think that France result was blamed not only on them being absolutely pish, but because a lot of the players really, really don't want to play for the manager.
So hopefully he's still in place in June and McGinn can get 14 so he can break the record. Then we can start sharing the goals around.
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9 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:
Okada apparently on his way to WWE, starting in NXT.
That would be absolutely terrific banter from WWE. I know he's probably not as known to your average WWE fan as others might be, and there might be a language barrier, but he's carried NJPW for near enough a decade, and it's not like this is the NXT of Nakamura's era.
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That Netflix news is interesting. If it means that we essentially get the same service that the Network is giving us, plus RAW, Smackdown and NXT, then that will be great. Means I can drop the Network and keep Netflix, happy days. I wonder if there's going to be a delay on things though, then the Network still around for live? Remains to be seen. No-brainer for WWE though to be able to completely offload the requirement to handle the Network and still have control over their output. Good deal for Netflix too to have constant new content that people will happily subscribe for alone.
1 hour ago, DA Baracus said:A recording was recently discovered that was taken shortly after his scumbag son was a car accident in which Hogan expressed worry that, should his son die, he would be reincarnated as a black man as punishment.
Yeah...he just about survived the last one, which you can maybe argue for if he makes it clear it was a different time etc and show some contrition. He seemingly didn't do that at all, even facing down a number of black wrestlers. But they still bring him back, because a lot of wrestling fans are happy to separate the art from the artist. Fair enough for them, I can see their point. But this adds a few more cases of racism on top of some pretty horrible stuff. I'm sure they were pretty dismissive of the guy who is now in a coma with serious brain damage because of that accident, and instead wanted to talk about starting up a reality show for the son.
He's a massive part of their history, and fine if you want to retain that without celebrating him, but if I was HHH I'd be getting someone to put a quick note towards Terry and tell him that he's never appearing on anything even tangentially related to WWE ever again. Let AEW pick him up once they're bored of Flair.
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8 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:
Nah, by putting the title up in the Rumble you eliminate a few guys as winners, most notably Cody, who has always said he wants the WWE title. Also takes away the (storyline) intrigue of who the winner will pick to face at Mania (although we'll be all but certain who they'll pick given who wins it)
If Seth is out for Mania then Drew vs Punk for the title makes sense, with Drew winning the belt fairly soon to defend at Mania (him vs Priest for the vacant title on Raw or at the Rumble?).
Yeah, fair point. I doubt they would suddenly flit to that, but I guess it would take the match down a path it doesn't need to go down given this field is probably one of the most open ones since that time they decided to put everyone in including Lesnar, Goldberg and Undertaker (hopefully a better ending this time though).
Although if we are thinking along those lines, does that eliminate anyone who wouldn't be going for Reigns from winning? I guess it depends how they handle Rollins injury. If he comes out on Monday and drops the title, then do they really have the choice of the winner be either Reigns or "whoever has the title in April"? Probably depends what their plan was before the injury. I think it was probably being given to Punk, so maybe book it that he gets the title match at mania but gets to pick his opponent? Then Drew comes in and kicks the shit out of him for 2 months to set that up. I'd definitely take that, particularly if it's with Rhodes/Reigns (because surely Rhodes has to win then...) or Rock/Reigns (because it'll be a fascinating watch).
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f**k it, put the title up in the Royal Rumble match. If the plan was always to give Punk (or anyone else) the win to set up a match against Rollins, then just have the title be on the line and add an extra sizzle. With 2 months to go until WM, if it does turn out to be a minor injury, you could always play out the originally planned match but with Rollins trying to win it back instead. Or just let him go away and have a well-deserved rest, and start another program.
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6 hours ago, O_Kahn said:
To carry on with my slightly negative approach to this thread, bear in mind that Netherlands doesn't give the usual 10% allowance to speed limits that we do here.
I got my first (and only) speeding fine over there for doing 43 in a 40. Generally driving over there was ok, I would say folk take slightly more of a chance changing lanes/pulling out that we do here.
I was heading to Amsterdam on one of those awful stag weekends where you only know a couple of people and the rest are arseholes. We landed in Amsterdam, and one of our number was stopped at customs and invited to step away by a rather large police presence. Instead of being the international terrorist he might have been, it was an old speeding ticket that I don't think he had been aware of, and think it was similarly close to the edge. Fine paid, and off he went. Although truth could've been worse given how much of an arsehole he was that weekend.
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I think RDR2 has a bit of a shit honour system given how strong the rest of the game is. It ends up being quite a chore to be a properly horrible c**t for the game with the law system, and the boosts you can get to your honour are incredibly strong compared to those that can kick it down. I think greeting townsfolk and throwing back fish you catch get you a bigger boost than the drop you get for massacring a town. Would have been better if it was a little looser and let you play properly as an outlaw and maybe spend a little less time chasing down witnesses because you've bumped into someone in town.
My favourite way to play was being a proper horror right up until the "diagnosis", then claw it back until you're in good honour at the end of Arthur's story. Seems like that's how they would have written it if it was a linear story.
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I tried to understand the logic of that statement replied to when it's relating to pre-determined fighty soap operas, and I got a nosebleed and had to lie down.
I'd say the big moon-faced c**t would do the same, but I expect that type probably thinks it's brilliant he got dressed down online.
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"Here Tony, I've got a great idea. 'ken how everybody loves Judas but hates me? Just play Judas ALL THE TIME!"
Think that speaks volumes about how Jericho sees himself. Would be the easiest thing in the world to film some write-off for him, particularly with Omega down too. But not only is he forcing himself onto TV, but just constantly trying to brush away the fact that a lot of people are just tired of seeing him, and a fair few of them will be outright hostile.
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I particularly liked him entering the Royal Rumble, grabbing a ladder, immediately climbing up to the briefcase that wasn't there and acting shocked to his core before being eliminated.
I'd give him something on every single show they have. Granted you might get over-exposed to him, but he's not going to be around forever, despite still looking like he's in his late 20s. He's in a unique position where it seems like everyone really respects him and enjoys working with him. Vince with his weird sense of humour fucking loved him. Brock seems to love him. Seemingly not a bad word said about him. Let him work.
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Shawn Spears/Tye Dillinger also returned to NXT completely out of the blue. Nice that stuff like that can still happen, even if it isn't the biggest name.