forza ton
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The Stone Roses are fine if you don't know much about music but if you do you'll know they basically ripped off loads of cult bands, in some cases almost note for note,
Do you have some examples of that? Not having a go but i'm a massive roses fan and other than "Velocity Girl" by the Primals i can't think of any other note for note copies. The guitar line in Fool's Gold had been round the block a few times, mind you and Tim Buckley had a similar arpeggio to Ressurection on Buzzin' Fly but that's about it
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Another forgotten Madchester outfit...
My shitty band at the time backed them up at a gig in 1992!
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I've put some of my shit on soundcloud. Have a listen if you can be arsed.
good stuff ^
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This is us
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HB is getting a bit ratty because he knows in his heart yes will win this.
I expect this time next week he'll be saying he wasn't that bothered.
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So that's my entire family and wife's family voting yes including all their in laws. Every acquaintance I meet is yes. I must move in really cool circles or it's going to be a right solid yes victory.
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it not on the sky news website either so its a load of crap
It's from Faisal Islam @skynews
Very interesting indeed
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Twitter bud
Cheers but I can't find any mention of it on sky twitter
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Unnamed MP from No tells @SkyNews that internal polling shows Yes lead. No are expecting to lose Aberdeen, Dundee and GLASGOW.
Where you getting that from, mate?
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Times certainly are a changing
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Took a straw poll at a kitchen party last night
yes: 0
no: 9
undecided: 0
wont vote: 3
doesnt take a genius to figure out the percentages there
Big deal; Orangemen having a circle w**k in a kitchen are generally no voters.
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It's "Patriotism is the refuge of the scoundrel."
Aye, that was the joke, you thick twat.
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This whole "I don't believe in borders maaaaan" shit is ridiculous. Grow up. The world population is ordered into nation states and thank f**k that it is. This is the way of things so stop coming out with the 'last refuge of the scoundrel' line because all your other unionist pish has been debunked.
Scotland is not a region and anyone claiming it is is a moron. The act of union was between Scotland and England not Lanarkshire and Lincolnshire. Indeed, this argument is the last refuge of the britnat fandan
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Scotland has a fair share of utter wankers and a huge amount of shitebags but day by day they are shiting it less and there will be enough good guys to carry us to independence. One day the no voters will thank those of us who had the vision and balls to bring democracy to Scotland.
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Isn't it funny when no voters see themselves as pragmatic types and yes voters are dreamers? It's actually the opposite in most cases. Most no voters I see online or know personally have some crazed view about old Blighty's traditions and an absolute obsession with two wars from the last century. Yearning for a state that basically doesn't exist any more ain't pragmatic.
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So HB is saying Scotland is a region therefore there is no democratic deficit. Fine. It's bullshit but hey ho. Funny how no-one else from better together will call Scotland a region.
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Yes. You seem to find this surprising for some reason.
Almost as many Scots voted for the current Westminster government, as voted for the current Holyrood administration
Yes; almost.
The union contains constituent countries. My country, Scotland, has a democratic deficit when Westminster governments are elected. There is no disputing this.
What no voters could say is "I can accept the deficit as I believe the benefits are outweighed by our loss of democracy". They could say this but they don't.
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But we're not electing a Scottish government.
What is being offered is not independence either but a facade of independence. Swapping one group of centralising wankers in London for another group of centralising wankers in Edinburgh, but losing any semblance of input in to monetary policy whilst still being dictated to by NATO, the EU and big business.
Ok, I think you and I have taken this as far as we can. At this late stage for someone to still come out with that level of shite shows that you'll merrily skip about from one debunked argument to the next purely because you're voting no.
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I notice there's been a lot of this nonsense recently. It's one of the most dishonest arguments going. Scotland is not a bloc vote that's somehow not being represented.
People don't vote down ethnic lines - bar the ethnic nationalists that troll these pages. People vote along political lines. If anything the argument is that the UK does not get the government it votes for because of FPTP. One could also say that becsuse of the disproprotionate nature of AMS that Scotland did not get the government it voted for in 2011 either.
I can understand that a case can be made for bringing government closer to the people - that's a different argument altogether. However, I believe it can be done in a better way than the pseudo-independence on offer.
Oh dear! "Scotland is not a bloc vote"...
Yeah, that's what the referendum is about; a government chosen by the Scottish people for the Scottish people.
What did you think the referendum was about?
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England gets the Gov they vote for 100 per cent of the time, Scotland gets their choice 50 per cent of the time?? You've completely lost me Pal!!? Sorry!
I don't know how I can make it simpler for you. If the majority in England vote for a particular party then that party will be the government or choose a coalition partner. If the majority in Scotland vote for a particular party Scotland only gets the government chosen by the English vote.
You didn't know this? You should be voting yes, mate.
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Really mate? Really?What happened from 1997-2010, 13 Years!!? That's not chicanery, they were in Government! And the Majority in Scotland voted for them!
So England gets the government they vote for 100% of the time and we get the government we vote for 50% of the time. That's a democratic deficit. Do you understand this?
Hold on. You're just at the wind up, right?
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Lol? Are you 12?
I fully understand what democratic deficit means. Holyrood are a perfect example - no second chamber, misuse of the committee system. 44% riding roughshod over the other 56%.
You are choosing to ignore the glaring democratic deficit which Scotland experiences within the UK. Shall i spell it out?
England votes tory; Scotland votes labour - Scotland gets tories.
No amount of chicanery is going to change that fact. Typical no voter doesn't understand/ won't acknowledge the democratic deficit.
Fucking LOL
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Yes. The wishes of 44% are imposed on the other 56%. But unless you are advocating absolute PR that will not change.
So you don't understand the democratic deficit? There's a surprise . It seems to be a really hard thing for no voters to figure out. Evidenced by none other than Mr.Darling screaming at Alex Salmond, "I didn't vote for you!!!"
Lol
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Denying themselves democracy? Utter scaremongering nonsense. The UK will continue to be one of the world's great democracies after a no vote. If you seriously believe otherwise you need to seek either education or medical help.
Does the country of Scotland have a democratic deficit? In your own time.
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Glasgow green was a phenomenal performance musically. Brown's vocals were perfect.