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1 hour ago, Raidernation said:
Just means in any pre-season friendlies (they've got the time now!) the opposition fans can sing :No %^&s in Europe"
They haven't booked any!
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Brilliant. The only trick you missed was, " the running costs of the asbestos-ridden stadium must be pretty gargantuan".
Aside from that you are cliche-rich and information-free. The few Sellick fans who are able to form a complete sentence welcome you to their ranks.
Enlighten us then as to why your club's finances are a perma-mess!
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Not really. How many administrations have Dundee and Livingston racked up between them?
Neither of them liquidated and started from scratch though. The problem for Sevco seems to be institutional and inherited from Rangers - overestimating their size and financial power, and a deep-seated addiction with spending well beyond their means just to show they are billy-big-boots. I am sure the running costs of the stadium must be pretty gargantuan for a club at their level, too. If that isn't close to being filled at least a FEW times a season then it's just a drain on finances.
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Is he the perma-seething mess I always see retweeted on my feed by some Sevconians I follow? God help them.
He's the guy who, in the midst of the original club collapsing, took time out to write the totally unhinged 'enemies of Rangers' list on his blog. For some reason that includes Stuart Cosgrove of all people!? Also staunchly backed Whytey. Couldn't be a better man for the job quite frankly.
edit: this thing. https://forweonlyknow.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/chris-graham-rants/
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Must be... along with a plethora of rain-jacketed hangers-on in the away dugout. Pay day must be soon, eh?
There's a rule about having directors of liquidated companies involved with new companies... you can't use the same name if you do this. Willie Pullar was a director of Rangers, is he involved with the plucky newcomers too?
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Regan must go. Insane statement to make. I wonder if he's trying to work his ticket?
Nah, that would be crediting him with too much sense.
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Cowdenbeath say no to newco. http://www.cowdenbea...iewNews&id=1075
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Chairman Donald Findlay added – “Speaking for myself, and myself alone, it is clear to me that people at the highest levels of our game have tried to hold a gun to my head and the heads of my colleagues. That will never work. But I have a long memory and will not forget what they tried to do and the way they tried to bend me, and this Club, to their will. That will never be allowed to happen”Findlay sounds raging,
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Jardine and various fans getting pissed off with Bomber? Oh I wish there was a live feed of this.
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Niall McKay@nmckay82Bombers back, he's got more to say. Making sense,
First time for everything.
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Cosgrove is off on one
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Doncaster seems to be rather abruptly backtracking from his doomsaying.
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So the daily record has been setting the agenda on Rangers' shenanigans, claims Traynor
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In fairness to Kilmarnock (never before or again shall I utter those words), they seem likely to be the worst affected club given the (apparently) parlous state of their finances. Of course, it could just be Johnston is hoping all the ex-Rangers fans in Kilmarnock (which must be 70% of the town's population
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It's quite exciting to realise that this is a full scale propaganda attack by the media and all the bad guys in the game. It's a sign that they're getting desperate as they're losing. The fans and clubs need to hold the line just a bit longer here. Bit of a concern that some club chairmen are wetting themselves, of course.
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Expected to play in the First Division? That is worrying and I don't mean through fear that it might happen. It is worrying that a Glasgow-based national newspaper does not have its finger on the pulse. If you were a Rangers supporter who relied only on the Record you'd hardly have a care in the world.
And I suspect that's why they've left any action to save their club so, so late.
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Are you not frustrated yourself seeing this?
Of course!
As I say, would be nice if clubs would be more open about what the hell is going on. Instead we seem to have more deals being done in smoky rooms, and an apparent deliberate ignorance of the perilous state of 'Rangers'.
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Aye but...............it has Liewell's name written all over it to save your OF buds - did he pen it himself or get one of the PR people to write it? That could explain why Celtic can't make PR announcements, that Department of the East End is too busy writing crapola to stitch the rest of Scotland up eh?
I really don't think Celtic are behind it, there's no evidence for that, it goes rather against what I've understood to be the board' internal thoughts on the matter, and the (few, sometimes veiled) statements they've made. We don't gain anything from it - Celtic's board know fine well that they'll lose orders of magnitude more money if they gerrymander a fake 'Rangers' into the league than any losses from missing two pretend old firm games for the next few years. If we cared that much we'd have given them a loan to help them pay their bills.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility, but I just don't see it. That said, I'd be much more comfortable if we were to make a statement against it, otherwise it provides tacit approval.
It smacks of Doncaster (and Regan?) and Longmuir cosying up together to try to scare the SFL clubs. I'm not sure what the SFL's motivation is, but Doncaster is more worried about his bonus than anything else. I rather doubt even SPL clubs would support it.
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Can't be done. They'd still be SFL clubs for a start.. Sheer crotch-rubbing fantasy on somebody's part.
True.
The silence from SPL clubs (apart from Aberdeen?) on this proposal is worryingly deafening. It's looking like a stitch-up. Isn't it the SFL board who supposedly published the document?
We'll see who comments in the morning I suppose.
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I've had some time to think about this now, cooled down and here's my 'revised' thoughts.
The actions of the SPL (whether its Doncaster, the chairmen themselves, whoever) are absolutely outrageous. No doubt. Even the Rangers fans seem to be disgusted by it, with little wonder. It's the case of 'having your cake and eating it too' from the SPL from their perspective, and I can completely understand that stance. STV have been quite good during the whole saga, but they have caused a lot of the hysteria in this. They have sensationalised the document in my eye, made it seem likely the SFL clubs were likely to accept and it's caused an unbelievably hysterical response from everyone.
It seems to me that the SFL clubs are not going to accept this. There's no incentive for the SFL2 and SFL 3 teams here and the SFL 1 clubs can't accept this either, the fan pressure wont allow it.
But there is - the SPL will just take any SFL clubs who do vote for it, stick them in SPL 2, then close off the door, leaving the no votes to become non-league sides. It's blackmail of the worst kind. It's much like what we see happening in politics at the moment - more and more outlandish policies are proposed that no one bothers opposing as they seem to far 'out there'.. and then they become law.
obv. it's a celtic site, but this is a pretty good post about the situation. Fans need to act now to stop this happening, and the good thing is that it's clear that the fan anger is there.
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With regards to the discussion of Celtic threatening legal action over voting changes, I don't know about that specifically. Must be said that we are no doubt fully aware that some SPL clubs want a 50/50 gate share or something insane like that. We'd be obliged to do everything we could to stop that happening, quite obviously, as there's no logical justification for it other than smaller clubs being greedy and wanting to weaken Celtic, which is rich coming from those in favour of Sporting integrity.
Increase your own attendances, don't just try write into the rules that you are allowed to steal money from another club that happens to have bigger attendances.
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Was this cooked up at that meeting of the SPL clubs last week (to which Celtic weren't invited, intriguingly)?
Whoever is behind it though, we can all agree that it's totally insane.
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I don't think the SPL document or threat of a 'breakaway' league will scare those in SFL1-3. We aren't the ones with twitchy bank managers and high levels of debt.
This is very true, the majority of SFL clubs seem to be smarter than to be won over by such a farcical document.
The threat of an SPL 2 doesn't make any sense without any SLF clubs willing to join it, either.
Fair point. The Italian authorities aren't ones to be admired. Why don't we look at a more reputable association, The FA.<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-family: verdana, tahoma, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); "><br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-family: verdana, tahoma, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); ">How did they treat a newco? Here is a complaint brought by Rotherham against Leeds(2007) My link. Basically the FA rolled over, let Leeds continue in their current league with a 15 point penalty.<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-family: verdana, tahoma, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); "><br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-family: verdana, tahoma, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253); ">So the SPL/SFA/SFL proposal to the clubs is harsher than that.Leeds agreed a CVA. A more relevant example: http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18209679
Darlington failed to agree a cva, formed a newco, and were relegated four divisions on the FA's instruction.
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I'm sure ransom notes are more subtle than this SFL document.
It has to be Scenario 5, regardless of the blackmail.
The only money that oldco brought into the game was for the benefit of RFC, not the game as a whole.
The only fans that will be lost are oldco fans.
More clubs will go under if the leagues are reorganised for Club Zombie, because their fans will not be party to this.
Commercial deals will need to be renegotiated, but the existence of any deal based around the survival of any particular club just shows yet again that the game is corrupt.
The key assertion that 'fans will be lost to the game' needs to be challenged. They cite no research on this - I could say that all of the fans will support Partick Thistle, and attendances at all SPL clubs will soar', and it would be just as valid to appear in such a document.
Shameful blackmail. Thankfully, the SFL clubs seem smarter than to give in to it.
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I wonder what kind of research they did into their 'sky is falling' conclusion to the SPL document.
I would hope Celtic and all other SPL clubs would distance themselves from it, otherwise it looks like they're complicit in the blackmail. If Celtic are party to this then Celtic Park is going to be a ghost town.
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The Chronicles of the Banter Years (2012 - ∞)
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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I noticed today they seem to have convinced themselves twenty million quid is still coming because of stuff like '5m for shirt sales' and '3m from hummel'.
So not only do Rangers have no running costs to pay from that money, as discussed already, but is that how shirt sales work, aye? The manufacturer takes all the costs, pays for the privilege of doing this and then passes on 100% of the sales as well. Interesting business model.