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53 minutes ago, Sylvester said:
A lot can change in 5 years, I bet you've done things you regret...
Yeah I regularly beat people with a bottle and then regret it...... sober up ffs. My original statement stands. He`s a clown and that particular incident is the most high profile of many throughout his glittering career.
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6 hours ago, dmkeenan85 said:
Unbelievable player and brilliant bloke.
Great signing.
I`m sure his previous Coach that he attacked with a bottle agrees with you. He`s a clown ffs and he`s been playing Amateur for a reason........
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9 hours ago, Terry Tibbs said:
Whitletts have signed Bobby Colligan, ex Winton and Irvine Vics. Played the last 3 games as a trialist and has looked a right guid player
Good signing for you. He was at the Glens as well. Really good getting forward and attacking defenders and he`s not scared to put a shift in either. Didn`t see him at Winton but he looked good for Vics and Glens...
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14 hours ago, Black & Red Socks said:
This has got to be one of the poorest posts on this or any other thread that I've had the misfortune to read. In the face of properly constructed, rational and, indeed, factual information being laid before you and everyone else reading this thread on the reasons why a fair amount of SJFA clubs consider a coherent and sustainable future lies in the EoSFL and the Pyramid you first claim to be working on a pitch that will detail all the benefits of remaining Junior and then, when you're called out on this repeatedly by a variety of posters, you fail to come up with even one worthwhile reason and, instead, resort to infantile retorts and obscene language.
As has been said before, no wonder teams are fleeing from this bully boy style nonsense. There will be more doing so in the years ahead too, and in some small way your contributions on P&B this last wee while might just help them to make up their minds on that very course of action.
You could take some time to read through the utter pish that you posted previously under your other user names and that will give you a decent base-line for assessing and comparing poor posts. Take a week or two to read through the voluminous threads on the pyramid which are full of the same ass-clown characters vilifying anyone who dares to hold anything even resembling an opposing view to their pro-pyramid stance and then come back and talk to me about infantile retorts ,obscene language or bully boy style nonsense.
If you think that any club makes a decision about it`s future based in any way shape or form on what`s written on this forum then you need to stay off the glue..........
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2 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
You came on here being the big mouth a while back and made an absolute arse of it and slunk away for a couple of months. This is a thread about the future of the Junior game which I started when Kelty left, its not difficult to know the content. If you hate it that much then simply ignore it, instead you post on other completely unrelated threads and talk about......the Pyramid, and try to be the smart arse big mouth again.
You've failed to convince anyone of the merits of remaining Junior, your promised thread never materialised, and now you resort to pathetic sniping (along with others), incapable of reasoned debate. So forgive me for not really giving a shit what you think, you're all mouth and no substance, and to think you're involved in running the Junior game. Frankly, you're not selling it to anyone.
Look at you getting your pyramidpanties in a knot. I`m well aware of the content. The future of the Junior game (on the thread that you started.....really?) is now out of your hands and nothing more than an interesting distraction from your impending move to Utopia. Frankly I`m surprised you`ve got so much time to spare to pour scorn all over anyone else`s opinion if they appear to waver from your party line. I thought you would be filling out application forms for all the cash that`s coming your way for being in the pyramid?? For the avoidance of any doubt I`ll post where and when I see fit and if that irritates you (and it clearly does) then so much the better. You`re actually a bigger ass-clown than I gave you credit for if you think I`m involved in "running the Junior game" I`ve no need to sell anything, lets see how it plays out and then see who has the last laugh........... Now I`m going to apply the pigeon rule to you so feel free to howl away. I won`t be listening to anymore of your over inflated , self important bullshit musings............
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1 minute ago, Burnie_man said:
Oh dear, the blazers are slowly losing it. Glad to see you care enough by taking time to mention the Pyramid in every thread you post on
The amusing thing is with every post, you and a few others confirm why most clubs want to leave. Ironic eh lol.
So the reason that the East is imploding (with the exception of the big clubs) is because I`ve outed you and Hamish for having wet dreams about the pyramid??? It`s an interesting opinion but like most of the other stuff you write it`s utter bollocks.......
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Just now, Burnie_man said:
Any chance of starting up that thread you promised to detail the benefits of remaining Junior? you've been working on it for a while
Bingo!!.....Is Pro Pyramid Gansta the same as Wanka?? Asking for a friend.....
............ between you and Hamish you must be getting through some amount of bed sheets with all these pyramid wet dreams that you`re having. You have now left the building so why are you persisting with your barrage of pyramidpish? I see you were catching farts on another thread about your move to Utopia and if things are so bad why the f**k do you care what happens, you`ve left. Be a good chap and let the door hit your arse on the way out..cheerio noooo...
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3 minutes ago, Dipple burn said:
Had a quick swatch at the grounds in the current EOSL and its an umbrella you pyramid throbbers will need never mind soul.
Not required because the sun will be shining every Saturday and every midweek when the games are being played as well. They will also be getting an extra Bank Holiday and discounts at Nandos and Greggs.
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1 minute ago, archieb said:
Make of it what you will, I'm sure we'll get an official figure in due course.
If they issue an official figure then the appropriate level of detail in terms of the number of responses they received etc would need to be published as well before it could be viewed objectively
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3 minutes ago, archieb said:
I have NO information on the number or percentage of replies it's based on but presumably it's an East+West figure (I don't think the North Region clubs were asked).
And yet you have a figure of 95% with zero substance to it referring to "a first indication of a likely result".......
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26 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
I've said I thought, at one time, the Juniors could have done more to attract clubs from senior and parallel leagues, with a view to providing an alternative to SPFL football. Unfortunately time has moved on. What is your proposal to make sure the grade prospers?
I believe the grade can prosper. It`s been imperfect for a number of reasons for a number of years but that doesn`t mean that it should be forced into accepting a half arsed solution that`s been cobbled together with practically zero consideration for all the member clubs and offered up as some sort of after thought....the grade needs to evolve of that there`s no doubt but it needs to be inclusive and take along the Royal Alberts as well as the Auchinleck Talbots and I believe there`s enough good people within the Clubs to help the game evolve into something that people fifty years from now can get nostalgic about.........
I`m going to run a seperate thread on this at some point over the weekend and see where it goes.
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9 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
Do you think the posting style you've adopted is doing anything to protect or promote staying Junior?
The posting style adopted or otherwise is suited perfectly to the people it`s directed at. There`s multiple threads on here about how shite the juniors is and its full of dinosaurs and it needs to integrate or just find it`s level (which basically means f**k off and die in a corner quietly because any club that doesn`t integrate is dragging all the good clubs down etc etc) It doesn`t even cross the minds of these people that there is an alternative viewpoint and they have thus far been assuming that the lack of any vocal opposition of their position means that they must be right. Well in my humble opinion they are wrong and I`ll continue to share that opinion with them in the appropriate manner.........
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34 minutes ago, Goalie Hamish said:
Weegieboy will be greeting
Breaking my heart into the last of the brandy from today....that`s the meeting finished now as well so it`s off to the Savoy
in the taxi`s that will be claimed back on expenses......Looks as though the East Region won`t be able to finish the season as a result of all the teams deserting in their droves...
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Just now, stanley said:
Any word on the actual meeting?
Getting boring reading the same argument from the same poster.
Food was great, brandy and cigars were exceptional as always and the lap-dancers....well they were totally arousing..................oh and if you`re bored then you don`t need to read it. You can tune into Kelty TV or Blackburn TV to get the latest Integration Update but you will of course have to reward them for the service they provide....
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Just now, kefc said:
Iv stated numerous times why we moved, biggest reason could probably have been the inept running of the SJFA and the non improvement or ambition to improve a grade, something that went way against what our club were/are doing.
Dont talk to me about finances or rewards, I talk the talk mate, I gave while my club was part of the SJFA, never took, having invested into the SJFA as a sponsor of a cup competition for no reward.
I`m not. You mentioned finance and rewards............
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4 minutes ago, gogsy said:
Just to make it clear, we are not laughing with you, we are laughing at you.
Ok thanks for clearing that up because i was really worried there for a second........................if you take a picture of that and keep it on your phone then it might be relevant it to you sooner than you would like if you don`t manage to increase the population of your home support but I`m sure your investor(s) aren`t worried in the slightest about that...............
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12 minutes ago, kefc said:
Handout Money?
Money that’s a reward for good practice and meeting requirements for your club members and customers (supporters), Money that’s re-invested into the club to improve on and off the pitch, Money that’s given as a reward for on the field success.
Whats wrong with that? See when you invest so much time and money into a club over the years it’s sometimes nice to be rewarded for that work and investment, the SJFA treat their clubs with contempt and it’s now being recognised by most.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Kelty have taken the leap because they think they should be rewarded
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49 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
Let’s get one thing out of the way once and for all, you seem fixated on my club. To repeat, I do not have any input into the running of the club. I used to, I no longer do. Therefore I comment as a fan of the club, and as a fan of the non-league game in Scotland. Try and remember that.
You obviously have a close working relationship with the SJFA Exec Committee, you know what the agenda was that much is obvious and people can speculate as to who you are but it’s a fairy unprofessional approach to go arguing the toss on here instead of engaging with member clubs in a meaningful manner to gauge their current opinion on the Pyramid. To not do that for 5 years (and counting) is reprehensible.
I’ll pull no punches, you appear to be the living embodiment of a dinosaur and one which will do untold damage to Junior clubs as the gradual slide into insignificance continues. The landscape has changed forever and whether you like it or not, the Lowland League and the Pyramid is the future, it’s not going away and it will evolve, other clubs will follow Kelty’s lead if the SJFA refuse to integrate. That’s a fact, no ifs and no buts.
As such, working with other members clubs to make the Junior grade better as you suggest is just an exercise in flogging a dead horse, why would people put efforts into something that has no long term future? In the East you are one or two clubs away from a trickle of defections turning into a tide. We have reached the point that there is little left to lose, the centrepiece of the grade is a sponsorless Junior Cup which costs clubs money to take part in and which brings the fixtures to a grinding halt almost every year when bad weather hits. We still don’t have fixture lists. We still have fixture chaos in May/June. We still don’t play under floodlights. We still have a re-instatement rule. Meanwhile, everyone can look over the fence and see the LL being run on a more professional level, with clubs benefitting financially from full SFA membership and Scottish Cup participation, with a chance to progress to the SPFL. It’s not perfect, but Junior clubs participation can shape it’s future.
Bottom line is, more and more people are waking upto the fact that they support a football club, not a grade of football (just look at this thread as evidence and others over the last couple of years). If by looking over the fence they see that there is something on offer that will help progress the club on and off the pitch then that will be something that they will seek, whether by moving through the gate as part of an overall integration of the game, or by jumping the fence.
The SJFA have the chance to bring the Junior clubs into the Pyramid in an organised and agreeable manner, there are various ways to achieve this, but in light of your comments and lack of consulation, I have little faith that will happen.
I dragged myself away from the post meeting lap-dancers for this................zzzzzzzzzzz You really are deluded if you think I`m anything to do with the SJFA but I think you doth protest toooo much about your own position within your club but we`ll leave that there shall we....
If the Junior grade is as bad as you say it is then I look forward to your next post confirming that your club are doing "a Kelty" and trotting off to the land of milk and honey. Make sure you don`t get your stilletos caught in between the cobbles made of gold on your way over and whatever you do, please make sure you take at least 4 other members of your committee with you when you`re going to pick up your BIG BAGS OF HANDOUT MONEY......... as for the rest of it, I can see I`m actually playing chess with a pigeon......
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13 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
Because I believe - as do many others - that the Juniors should integrate and stop being parochial dinosaurs, and yes at the time for the club it was a risk to move alone, and I explained why. We were not and are not Kelty.
Do you believe in the principal that all non league clubs should be part of the one overall league system under the jurisdiction of one governing body?
Also I'll ask again, why did TJ go into the meeting with no real information on the current opinion of Junior clubs? The 27 clubs 5 years ago may well be 50-60 clubs now, he simply doesn't know.
Your turn to provide the answers.
How do you know what the actual meeting agenda is? How do you know he isn`t at the meeting to be informed of some development or material change in the offering that he will then be required to present to the members? How do you know he`s actually offering any sort of opinion that`s supposed to be representative of the members (although 20 from 120 using your figures is not a mandate for any sort of change)
I`m going to put something up just shortly which will deal with the issue ,in my opinion anyway. Because clubs don`t share the same view as you in relation to integrating with another far from perfect system/organisation doesn`t make them parochial dinosaurs. The short answer is NO. I don`t believe the Juniors should be part of one overall league system under the jurisdiction of one governing body. Which single entity are you referring to? The SFA or SPFL or any of the other acronyms that currently deal with funding etc from within.
So the Juniors don`t integrate as you call it do your club have a working plan to jump over the fence to the field where the grass is greener OR do you stand and look over the fence whilst staying where you are and pouring scorn on the organisation that you`re a member of OR do you stay where you are and try and work with the other member clubs and produce something that makes the grass in the other field look a lot less green.............
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5 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
Yes, I was on the committee, was delegate for the period under discussion (hence why I have a lot of knowledge of what went on) and was briefly Secretary. As for a direct answer, have a look at the below link and in particular page 4
http://nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=6299;guest=68405259
"Over 20 SJFA teams have expressed an interest to join the SHFL/LL and the pyramid structure"
I think the final number was 27. At the time, we expressed an interest. What the current thinking is I don't know, but I suspect it's not changed. My own thinking at the time was that a club like us (at the time struggling in the South Division) would not be in a position to make the move without being part of a wider move by the SJFA towards a Pyramid. We were in no position (ground wise or financially) to take the risk and had other priorities to deal with to progress the club, but we were supporters of the principal of Junior football integrating.
So why do you need the SJFA to integrate en-masse if the offering is that good and your club is in favour? Interesting also that you`ve used the word RISK...
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4 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
I look forward to you posting up the minutes shortly.
The minutes are....... the lunch was superb as always. When the meetings over we`ll be retiring for cigars, no time for minutes...
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19 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
You tell me, you have access to the results.
There were two surveys from memory, one in which 20-30 clubs responded by saying they were interested in joining the Pyramid (one of them was my club, I filled in the survey), there was another which included the question along the lines of "in principle would you eventually like to play in the Scottish League" and again there was a significant positive response.
Neither of these surveys were followed up on.
Maybe you can answer my last point since you have quoted me.
Sorry for the delay in replying there......me and the guys were just necking some brandy to wash down our working lunch...............
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11 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
You tell me, you have access to the results.
There were two surveys from memory, one in which 20-30 clubs responded by saying they were interested in joining the Pyramid (one of them was my club, I filled in the survey), there was another which included the question along the lines of "in principle would you eventually like to play in the Scottish League" and again there was a significant positive response.
Neither of these surveys were followed up on.
Maybe you can answer my last point since you have quoted me.
If I had the answers I wouldn`t be asking. That`s interesting though that you are at pains to point out you aren`t involved in your own club and yet there you are filling in surveys.... notwithstanding that the answer is you actually can`t or wont give a direct answer to my question. According to you, from circa 120 Junior clubs that received the survey you think that"20-30" replied they were interested in joining the pyramid. Given that you indicated on behalf of your own club that you would be interested in joining the pyramid it really begs the question , why haven`t your club done just that?
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28 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
There was evidence 5 years ago when the SJFA surveyed its clubs. The survey was ignored and has never been repeated as they wouldn't like the result.
How can TJ attend todays meeting without being armed with upto date data of what clubs would like to see and in what form. What is his negotiating position and who authorised him to go in with it?
Can you put up a summary of the evidence/results that you are referring to so that everyone can see what you`re using as the basis for your response?
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............ between you and Hamish you must be getting through some amount of bed sheets with all these pyramid wet dreams that you`re having. You have now left the building so why are you persisting with your barrage of pyramidpish? I see you were catching farts on another thread about your move to Utopia and if things are so bad why the f**k do you care what happens, you`ve left. Be a good chap and let the door hit your arse on the way out..cheerio noooo...
in the taxi`s that will be claimed back on expenses......Looks as though the East Region won`t be able to finish the season as a result of all the teams deserting in their droves...
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Put the crack pipe away and stop talking shite. You`re that stupid you`re lacking the basic intelligence required to understand the point being made...