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Is it safe to come back in yet? Has the Luncarty civil war ended with peaceful resolution?
I await news of the SJFA meeting with interest. New boundary maps less so...
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1 minute ago, Arthurlie1981 said:
In a more serious note I have always expected the number to be north of 30. Many clubs have become sick fed up with the way things have been run and now and alternative is being put forward there will be a move towards it for a majority of clubs.My expectation is, similar to what happened in the EoS situation, many late declarations will be made as clubs realise their local rivals etc are also making the move and don’t want to be left behind.
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Hearing that we’re over the 20 mark re expressions of interest. Going to need two (or even three) split divisions at this rate...
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If the WoS is in place for next season, I’d be very surprised not to see two automatic relegation spots in the Lowland.
With three feeder leagues, there can’t realistically be one relegation spot.
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3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Think it's significant this is being brought clearly under the LL with the wosfl email address disavowed as a point of contact. It's important people grasp that this wouldn't be a new league but a new division or divisions in an existing one, if it launches next season. The idea that the SFA can somehow block this from happening needs to be clearly false or some people are going to believe it and repeat it as if it were fact.
Very good point.
Its being done this way as the path of least resistance - all that’s required now are applicant clubs.
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Perfect statement. Clear on intent, next steps and timescales. Will be very interesting to see if the SJFA release a statement after their meeting tomorrow.
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5 hours ago, honestman54 said:
When do we expect the LL to make their next statement. I still dont understand why, to stop all of the current debate and silly TJ statements, they didnt just finish their previous statement with a link to an application for the new league and a deadline for such applications. That surely would have killed all this SJFA stuff dead in the water.
This week.
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7 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said:On 06/02/2020 at 18:27, Born To Run said:We're almost there...
This is HUGE for us as a club. Regardless of the result, people now know that we exist, and the funds generated on the overall run can (hopefully) go towards helping us find a home of our own in the near future.
For all the chat about moving the tie as well, looks like the Indodrill is the perfect capacity for selling out as the last tickets are going now.
Enjoy your day Hibees - just not too much, eh?
Are there any serious plans for a home nearer Broomhill? The cynic in me says the money will go into the playing budget rather than the infrastructure.
No “serious” plans in terms of anything imminent, but the club has been constantly looking at options ever since going to Alloa.
Luckily we have a long-term minded man at the helm. Moving back to Glasgow is our main focus (bearing in mind we may need to buy floodlights etc too).
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40 minutes ago, G4Mac said:
A LL2 would be a licensed league. There are no junior clubs with licenses and wont be by June this year. This would mean that they would have to gain their licence (next june at the earliest) then apply. By that time there will be other clubs than the clubs in the wrsjfa who might wish to apply for a new LL 2 west. Clubs that are already licensed.
Not that you are suggesting this (I dont think) but some junior oriented posters seem to think that if they port over as one now they would form the wosfl or a LL2 when it happens. For me the wosfl will be by application, as will any future LL2, where clubs will have to be licensed.
What makes you say that?
There is no requirement for any theoretical LL2 to be a licensed league. When the idea initially came up, it was very much as an unlicensed Tier 6 league.
Regardless, if the WoS gets set up LL2 isn’t happening for the foreseeable future.
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At the risk of interrupting the stramash...
Brilliant day for us. So proud of the boys, and if TC scores his chance on the hour mark it might have got very interesting!
Good luck for the rest of the tourney Hibees.
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1 minute ago, morley said:
Will we see a number more clubs come out with a position over the weekend as committees and fans meet up for games, or do we think most teams will keep quiet piblically for the next few weeks until more clarity on what the wosfl will look like and it becomes clearer if the Sjfa are bluffing or they do actually have a plan B (or x, y, z) they are exploring?
Don't expect to see many more statements. A few interested clubs have kept their council up till now, no reason for them to come out and say anything.
Assuming that any WoS follows the same dates as the EoS, we have almost two months until any applications need to be in.
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In a way, I’m delighted that this is now out in the open and that we will have movement in time for next season.
I’m also mindful not to “rub it in” for people who just want to stay Junior. At least this way clubs can choose their own futures for themselves - set local football, or the prospect of moving up the levels.
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Just now, Burnie_man said:
What's the next step? I guess they are going to have to ask for applications at some point and set a deadline date. EoS is 31st March so I'd expect something similar.
That’s my expectation, yeah. Keeps things aligned and manageable.
I suspect any interested parties who haven’t already been in touch will be e-mailing now. There is also an outside chance of the SJFA trying to shut this down by offering to take up “Option X”...we’ll see.
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3 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:
So now we sit back and see who publicly declares an interest today? They wouldn't release this statement without knowing some clubs would come forward to get the ball rolling. Right? RIGHT?
Right. This is happening - they aren’t waiting and gambling on declarations of interest post statement, put it that way.
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We're almost there...
This is HUGE for us as a club. Regardless of the result, people now know that we exist, and the funds generated on the overall run can (hopefully) go towards helping us find a home of our own in the near future.
For all the chat about moving the tie as well, looks like the Indodrill is the perfect capacity for selling out as the last tickets are going now.
Enjoy your day Hibees - just not too much, eh?
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1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:
If you look at his bizarre email to member clubs, TJ claims that one of the LL reps (from BSC Glasgow) at the meeting stated that the LL had been broadly on board with Option Z eight months ago, but had since changed its mind due to a dissident minority that persuaded the rest. Said rep has since stated on twitter that TJ's account of what happened is "creative writing", so who knows what the truth is. It's possible though that the LL may have been split internally on the idea of having an LL West and LL East and TJ and others were taken in by over-optimism on the part of the faction that was in favour of it.
Couple of things here:
- George isn’t just a LL rep, he’s the chair of the league. His role is to represent all member clubs.
- There is no “split”, nor “tribal” issues on this. The ‘west in as a region’ option would have sailed through. The Lowland has never had any intention of splitting into East and West leagues; LL2/WoS is the only idea that’s came up in the past.
- Purely my opinion on this point, but the SJFA still has a glimmer of hope if they now fully commit to the West Region moving in at tier 6 - pronto. If not, the WoS is coming with all the upheaval that will entail.
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We’ve officially entered the realms of unsubstantiated guesswork in this thread, it seems. Just as well we’ll get some clarity provided shortly.
For the avoidance of doubt, the SJFA were absolutely given the opportunity to join the pyramid by the other non-league bodies. Any suspicion of an “old pals” stitch up to remove them from talks is ridiculous.
The issue has been the SJFA’s insistence on moving over as a combined unit. The West Region could already be planning ahead to a first pyramid season if not for that condition.
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The other issue with Lowland relegation (as things stand) is upping to two automatic spots doesn’t change anything for the EoS, who essentially have a promotion spot for champs. The second spot would go to the SoS winners who often aren’t too keen on the idea of moving up.
Bring in a West league, let the South step down a tier and suddenly two automatic spots makes much more sense.
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All joking aside, expect to have more clarity over the next few days.
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5 minutes ago, wow-wee said:
That's the 3rd time I have said it since Saturday so be patient and wait on the announcement that will come soon.
There you go folks. Announcement announced!
...might even be sooner, depending. Watch this space.
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3 minutes ago, Boswelldriver said:
Very Commendable, but struggling to see how he can go to games as he spends so much time on here waiting to repel anyone who has an alternative view.
Back to reality though, He and MM really do know so much more than the rest of the posters on here. Its as if both are speaking on behalf of interested parties?
The facts are out there, to be fair. You just need to wade through piles of whataboutery, opinions and agendas to find them!
All @Burnie_man does is apply common sense to some background knowledge - not rocket science surely?
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1 hour ago, Burnie_man said:
Can Caledonian Braves reserves be in a division directly below their first team, if both are run by the LL? Same with BSC.
Yes. Stirling Uni’s EoS team was also allowed by the rules. The Lowland helping to run a potential WoS won’t change that principle.
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1 hour ago, jimbaxters said:
Any chance of discovering their id's?
Derek (Mozza) here. You’ll see Chris post under “RampantFM”.
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5 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:
Yeah actually it was but I was interested the comments that they perceived the west region to think they should go in at the same level as Lowland league, obviously this would never happen but was that discussed by the West region and did they state officially that the top west division should go in at tier 5
I’ll try to clarify - I’m Derek (Mozza) from the podcast.
I was more referring to comments made over the last few years, both public and private, in which certain people have stated that the region (at least in part) should enter at Tier 5 as the quality of the Premiership was on par with the Lowland.
This obviously can’t happen in practice as all Tier 5 sides must be licensed. IIRC the option was included in one of the questionnaires sent to member clubs however.
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