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  1. So.....Democracy means f**k all, who'd have thought? :lol::lol:

     

    Brexit was never gonna happen,  because the westminster elite didn't expect the vote to go the way it did,now they're backtracking & trying to find loopholes left, right & centre, brussels will never allow brexit to happen because they're a shower of unelected corrupt c***s who are afraid of losing the gravy train.

     

    Anyone who voted to "remain" can now see what EU democracy looks like And it stinks.

     

    And before you say this is a UK decision and not EU,     Wake the f**k up !!!

    And before anyone plays the "ragin" "seething" "Fuming" card, believe me i'm not, i find this hilarious, because it was obvious from the start.

  2. 10 hours ago, Cream Cheese said:

    Well if you want an independent Scotland. Vote for an Independent Scotland. Then campaign for Scotland to leave the EU. The whole point of leaving the UK is that it gives Scotland (and only Scotland) the choice on where it's future lies. As long as we're part of the UK, Scotland cannot collectively decide on it's own future.

    I did vote for an independent scotland & i did vote to get out of the EU, that's what REAL independence is.

  3. 4 hours ago, Antlion said:

    Then you don't want an independent Scotland at all. You patently don't want Scotland to be a nation that elects parties with policies you don't like. That is what independence is; being a state that elects people we, as individuals, may not all agree with, but who make decisions about international bodies at the behest of the Scottish people as a national collective.

    I do want an independent scotland, but there is no such thing as an independent nation within the EU, Why is that so hard for people to understand?

  4. 8 minutes ago, Cream Cheese said:

    So can any Brexiters on here actually explain what they thought they were voting for?

    Seems to me that they can't agree on what they were voting for. Brexiters squabbling over what Brexit actually means, because none really ever had a clue what they were voting for in the first place.

    I'll speak for myself, i voted to get out of a political union that no-one asked for and no-one voted for, and BTW, brexit won't happen, westminster don't want it to happen and our wonderful overlords in brussels wont allow it, that's the sort of tyranny that so many in this country seem to love.

     

    As much as i want an independant scotland, i'll never vote for it while the SNP are trotting out the "we want to be part of the EU"  pish at every opportunity.

  5. http://www.followfollow.com/news/tmnw/tweet_me_real_good___the_first_minister_fails_the_country_888224/index.shtml

    As thousands of Hibs (and, as we are oh so unsurprisingly discovering with every passing hour, fans of other clubs) rampaged across the Hampden pitch, manhandling, assaulting and spitting on Rangers players and staff, ripping up recently laid turf, inciting a riot and tearing apart goal frames, they did so safe in the knowledge that around almost exactly twelve months earlier similar scenes had taken place.

    That day, Motherwell fans saw fit assault a player during the game then invade the pitch, all whilst the Police and security staff that day did as little as possible to de-escelate the volatile situation. No meaningful punishments were meted out, so the green light was clearly given.That day, the restraint of our support was admirable. Little did we realise that we were merely viewing a precedent being set or, if one is to be more accurate, a challenge being issued to supporters of all other clubs to "better" this display of moronic, foul, animalistic behaviour. On Saturday, we witnessed theHibernian fans accept that challenge and lower the bar farther still.

    Given that we live in age of instant spin, immediate message control and constant media monitoring,the notion that the First Minister was unaware of the extent and nature of what was occurring on the pitch is as insidiously fallacious as it is ridiculously absurd. sturgeon's advisors would have known almost immediately that the situation on the pitch at Hampden was dangerously out of control and she would have been briefed about events as they were happening. That she then chose to tweet he congratulations to Hibs is, at best, wilfully provocative and at worst deliberately inflammatory.

    However, the more salient way to read her tweet is that was a de facto open blessing to all those taking part in what was occurring. In that one tweet, the mask of decency slipped and the veneer of respectability was stripped away to reveal a vile, venal, bitter woman whose hatred of Unionism is so entrenched that she opted to condone thuggery, vandalism and wanton lawlessness rather than do her civic duty. This is a woman whose moral compass is so much as a wee bit askew but rather is wholly non-existent. Make no mistake, this was a resounding thumbs up to the lickspittles of hatred from their frothing mistress.

    As the scale of violence and hatred damnably swiftly became obvious to all watching, miscellaneous second class buffoons and third rate figure began deleting earlier tweets in an attempt to join in the scramble to the moral high ground, one that they were now being forced to share with those whom they despise - the Rangers support. Whilst this gaudy assortment of hasbeens and wannabes at least had the common sense and good grace to do so, there was no such movement from the First Minister. Indeed, there was nothing other than the clichèd thunderous silence.

    It would be over 36 hours before a formal response would be forthcoming from the highest office in the land. Until it was received, we were left with the frankly accurate impression that whilst the Hibs support had tried mob handedly to drag Scottish football and society back to the dark days of the 1980's, we had a nation's leader whose answer to this was simply, Lolz.

    That in itself is utterly stunning. This is a political leader for whom the words media whore are entirely apposite. At every opportunity selfies will be taken, hands will shook and children will be read to. This is a political leader who has come to understand media manipulation in the digital age better than any other in the land - regardless of your political leanings, there can be no denying that Sturgeon is as media savvy as political leader out there. Yet she sat back on Saturday, did nothing on Sunday as the aftermath continued to churn and swell and did precisely nothing. Why? Well, we are back to the meal high ground once more and it sticks in the craw of the haters to share it with us.

    When the response finally was delivered, it was a pathetic, mealy mouthed, unconscionably brief three sentence statement from a spokeswoman which contained 47 words (not one of which was Hibernian, laughably). The Gettysburg Address it ain't. In a time when the first twenty four hours of a news cycle are considered to be the most important as that is when you can shape the narrative and promulgate the message that you wish to be understood by your target audience, it seems blatantly obvious that the First Minister's silence was not only a lot but the message itself. From that, one cannot help but draw the inference she has little or no belief those 47 stingy, gutless words which took almost two days to deliver.

    For Sturgeon, the simple but inescapable fact that she has been forced alongside us on the moral high ground is evidently a fierce moral quandary, a philosophical Occam's Razor and a nightmare from Hell. She has to try and square the fact that the victims of these despicable, cowardly crimes are not only her most hated enemies (proud Unionists) but also, falling lay, her constituents.

    This is a calamitous, perfect storm for a politician who is used to being deified by a lap dog press and whose method of leadership is the cult of (bland) personality. The First Minister has failed not only her constituents but also her office. She has publicly revealed herself to be incredibly small minded, intellectually bereft and morally bankrupt. That's quite an impressive feat for a single tweet.

    Good to see they've calmed down a bit. :lol:  :lol:

  6. Ross and the beer monkey showing how willing and easy it is to far one whole group of people with the one brush- exactly what's happened to Rangers fans in recent years- demonised and dehumanised in order to legitimise any form attack upon them and denial of any rights.

    Have you ever sat back and wondered why ?

     

    Maybe you should try doing that.

  7. Laughable the double standards on here. Airdrie fans invade a park and they're the scum of the earth and pages and pages of anecdotes about past actions and how they should be banned for life.

    Hibs fans do it against rangers and everyone is falling over themselves to defend the perpetrators and deny that any harm took place.

    Airdrie fans are scum of the earth weather they invade the pitch or not, same goes for the gibbering simpletons who follow sevco.

  8. Having spent most of yesterday evening reading through this thread because i was away all weekend, i thought i'd add my tuppenceworth.

     

    great game of football, most cup finals are edgy, boring affairs (see man utd-palace), but that was a cracking game.

     

    Well done to hibs, i actually watched the game with a group of 3 sevco fans and about 5 supporters of other clubs who were shouting for hibs, great atmosphere, great laugh, no problems between anyone at the end.

     

    as for the pitch invasion, absolutely no problem with doing that, we've all seen it a hundred times with no problems, the guy pushing the sevco keeper and the guy taking a couple of fresh air shots at wallace are complete bellends and shouldn't be hard to track down and punish.

     

    The goading ?.....again, we've all seen it a hundred times and i'm sure most of us have experienced other fans doing it to us, it's part and parcel of football as far as i'm concerened, you either give the same abuse back or ignore it, sevco fans came on the pitch for a fight, hibs fans did not go into the sevco stands, or to put it simply, sevco fans were responsible for the supporter fighting.

     

    Anyhoo...well done hibs.

  9. Spectre

    Same old, same old.

    These baddies really should give him the John Charles de Menezes treatment when they catch him.

    Seriously, most times he just heads along when the baddies send for him. This time, as usual, he gets in the baddies car and is chauffeur driven straight to baddie HQ with his (usually doomed) f**k partner.

    As usual he willingly hands over his gun. This time the baddies at least knock him out and tie him up.

    Now, he should really get the Brazilian sparky treatment at this point. But no, as usual they let him escape and destroy another of their highly flammable HQs. Have the fuckers never heard of sprinklers and gas suppression systems?

    Still, it held my attention to the end.

    7/10.

    I've not seen it but i could've told you all that.

     

    They've been regurgitating the same story for 40 years now, how folk still get wet with excitement when a new one comes along is a mystery to me.

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