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Colin M

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  1. How's the list looking? Is there a consensus forming or lots of individual votes?

    I haven't updated the last few entrants, but it's quite top heavy - I think there were about 10 albums that were getting loads of points, and then it started to spread quite thinly.

    If you voted something as your number 1 there's a great chance it'll be featured in some way. (Which means I might need some help getting a wee spiel about some of those choices!).

    The total number of albums voted for was quite remarkable though, I'll see how the list pans out and then decide how to present it, just in case we end up with like 10 albums tied for the same place.

  2. Just realised I've made a total c**t of my list by somehow forgetting the album that would have been my #2.

    FFFFFFFFUUUUUUU

    Colin, have you started tallying up the totals yet? If not, can I submit a revised list? Apologies, I'm a pure donkey.

    I haven't started finalizing yet, will give it this week for any more submissions, so feel free to change your list in the meantime! I'm keeping a tally on a spreadsheet so changing it is easy.

  3. It's hard enough trying to filter down to 10 albums, but then trying to put a list in order is even more difficult. I've redrawn my list up and changed it loads of times already. Some of the votes coming through mention things that I hadn't included and make me think I should have.

    It's also really difficult to measure more recent things against "classics" from 1995 or whatever. I actually think there's a much wider range of great electronic music that I love now (in album form at least) but putting it into context against recognized classics and things I loved back then is difficult. It's like people who think you can never top The Beatles or whatever.

  4. Do compilations count?

    In general, no - certainly not multi-artist compilations.

    If it's a collection of non-album singles gathered "as an album" then that would be fine. (Example of New Order's "Substance" given earlier, which I'd say is fine).

    No mix albums - possible exceptions for eg Villalobos or Omar-S Fabric Mixes where it's all artist only material. It would need to be widely considered as an artist album.

    It's basically to try and avoid any "Best of Tiesto" type nominations!

  5. Does that rule out New Order's 'Substance', despite it being a collection of (mostly) non-album singles and b-sides?

    No, I'd rule it in personally. I guess the no compilations rule is just to stop any "The Best Of" type albums being voted for. Things like Substance take on a life of their own as albums in my opinion.

    I'd also rule out multi-artist compilations like "Artificial Intelligence" or "Trance Europe Express", even though they are seen as important albums in the development of the music. Which is a shame but maybe there'll be a Top 30 Compilations and Mix Albums at a later date.

  6. There have been some fabulous suggestions and lists, I think from the first 6 voters there are already 55 different albums nominated! A couple of early favourites emerging but at the moment it's a wide open field. More votes please!

    My own shortlist is sitting at 13 just now so nearly there.

  7. Just realised how difficult this is - a lot of the producers that have been most influential on me tend to only release singles/EPs rather than albums!

    That does make it harder, easy to think of so many amazing tunes and releases but it feels like an album list might be missing out on so much. Similar to artists whose body of work as a whole is great but it's hard to think of one album that is better than all the rest (hello Autechre). Need to be harsh and think about whether you skip tracks!

  8. I had 3 electronic albums in my overall Top 10, and I suppose in theory they should be my top 3 in this poll. As I go through other albums though, I don't know if they will be.

    I've had a nomination list through already and every album on it is a belter. Looking forward to getting more.

  9. So by the criteria, I could probably include some of the later Massive Attack albums (Mezzanine onwards?) but not Blue Lines?

    I would say go with your gut. Blue Lines is fairly ambiguous, the music is predominantly sample based but I don't first think of it as "electronic music". The overall sound of it is more "organic". If enough people voted it into the 30/50 then I'd be happy to include, but I personally won't vote for it, because it doesn't fit for me.

    It's like the hip-hop question - most of the key hiphop albums are musically constructed using electronic equipment, but I wouldn't see them as seeming to be "electronic music", falling more readily into the wide ranging hip-hop category. But then, something like DJ Shadow's Endtroducing would fall easily into both.

  10. Due to popular demand (3 people) let's see if we can make this work while there is such a thirst for these polls. If we are successful then it may start a spate of genre polls across the forum. If not then we can let it slip down the pages of topics and never speak of it again.

    If we get 20 people then I would consider this a success. If you are interested at all I would urge you to participate! If the response is strong and we can do 50, then that will be amazing.

    The description of "Electronic Music" is deliberately broad - I will leave it to your discretion what to include. As a general guide, if the music is predominately or wholly made using electronic equipment, then count it in. If the use of electronics is a notable facet of the music, count it in. Electronic Music is often described in genres such as Techno, House, Electro, Ambient, Trance, Dubstep, Jungle/Drum and Bass... but there are plenty of examples in Pop and Rock that would also meet the description. Do not discount something if you think it fits.

    As an example, if you wanted to include Kanye West's "808s and Heartbreaks" then I would say, that fits. If you wanted to include Kanye West's "The College Dropout" then despite the fact electronics were no doubt used to make it, they are not a particularly prominent feature of the record. By all means argue the case, debate is what the thread will be all about, along with mystery and sneering.

    The general idea is patented by DomDom and executed to a fine art by groaninjock, and therefore there is little need to change the plan. So here is some shameless copy and pasting with some tweaking to the rules.

    Here's the idea...

    * Send me a PM on here with your top 10 electronic music albums of all time, in the correct order.

    * Don't send any more or less than 10. That'll null the vote for me. The top album gets 10 points and bottom gets 1 and everything in between works the same way.

    * Call your message "Top 10 Electronic Albums" so that I can easily see what's coming in.

    * I'll give you just over two weeks to send the lists. Should give enough time. So that means 02/11 closing date on this bad boy. This date may be flexible

    * Try and give reasons so as I can put them in the review. Not a necessity, but it makes my job easier, especially if I haven't actually heard the albums in question.

    * No tactical voting. Don't vote for something because you think everyone else will vote for it. If something is your favourite, vote for it.

    * Doesn't matter what reasons. Whether you're going the "best" or "favourite" route, just go with what ya want.

    * Studio and "live" albums only - no compilations.

    Right, that should be as clear as it can be! Take part!

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